Mt Athos- revisited

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Well recently i saw some weird title in some greek magazine of poor quality and bizarre thematics. According to it some people in the american government were "examining the athonite prophecies".

Surely it is an article directed at people who are not very intelligent, but that by itself does not mean it is definitely fabricated- although chances are, given the nature of the periodical, that it is.

I did not read the article, but i can guess more or less what it would be about. In fact i once mentioned those prophecies here, in a past thread...

The main athonite prophecy is the one of the late Elder (sainthood pending still) Paisios. According to it there will be a massive war, in this generation, centered in asia minor. The main combatants will be Russia and Nato, and the result would be the destruction of Turkey as it now stands. Greece, curiously, will not take part in the war (this little bit of prediction always interested me, why would it not take part?)

And while people are free to belittle Paisios, it should be known that some of his other prophecies appear to have become true. I recall reading them years ago, and they were about some strange crisis in Greece, with politicians being the laughing stock, the people being under German rule ( ;) ) and a hunger spreading. Apart from the german factor, which seems weird indeed to have made a prophecy about (it was made in the early 90s) there is also some mention of a "tax card" supposedly implemented to give a solution to the chronic issue of tax evasion. Curiously i read an article on exactly such a card one week ago.

Now i am not claiming this has to mean Paisios' prophecies are true. I am a skeptic about it. However it does seem to be quite close to what is happening, to at least be impressive.

Here is a pic of the elder Paisios btw:

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For those that do not know, Mt Athos (in the Chalkidike peninsula, in Greece) is one of the global centers of Orthodoxy, hosting many renown monasteries, greek, but also serbian and russian.

You can discuss anything about prophecies, Paisios, or how it can be argued that his particular ones were prone to be seen as coming true, while being general in their nature and wording. However it seems to me that they are not that general to begin with.
Also, please refrain from obvious arguments such as referencing the current crisis in a supposed turn to supernatural beliefs; that would be equally simple and false to assume, since nothing of the sort is happening in a considerable degree :)
 
Surely it is a tall order to hold prophecies as true, but in this case it seems to be at least alarming in its proximity to actual reality.
Also worthy of note is that Paisios frequently spoke to people who visited him, and openly claimed that in their lifetime (but not his own) these things will happen. So it is easy to disprove of the prophecy in a few years time (he died in 1994).
Of course given enough will to believe, one can always claim even those prophecies were symbolic and not literal, but i doubt this was what Paisios thought they were.
I would provide some link to this, but there must be thousands of english pages (most of them made by greeks or other orthodox people) on Paisios, so it is easy to find something about the prophecies online :)
 
I heard they're ultra conservative orthodoxed priests. They don't even let any women into their "monastery" for fear the men would be filled with sexual lust and yet the head priest used political donations and bribery to secure a vast real estate empire in Greece built on spurious claims of land grants made by Byzantine Emperors of half a millennium ago or more. Oh, and did I mention like most other Greeks they all commit tax fraud?
 
I have a great deal of respect for Athonite monks, but I'm pretty skeptical of any sort of prophesy (especially ones for which I can't find any English sources). I'm not going to say for certain that these prophesies are bunk, but I'm certainly not anticipating their fulfillment.
 
A private blog in broken English doesn't do much for me. The only other things I found included a Old Calendarist site using his bunk prophecies to prove that New Calendarists are wrong. Nothing from OrthodoxInfo, OC.net, or official diocese websites. It could just be that he's considered a much more important figure in Greece than he is in global Orthodoxy, but his prophesies aren't well known outside his homeland.
 
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