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[Music] New titlesong

Discussion in 'Civ4 - Caveman 2 Cosmos' started by voskhod, Feb 15, 2014.

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Which song should be the new main menu song?

  1. Arctic

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  2. Discovery

    37.5%
  3. Microscopic

    12.5%
  4. Old Souls

    12.5%
  5. Time

    25.0%
  6. Hymn

    50.0%
  7. Silence

    25.0%
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  1. Ari Rahikkala

    Ari Rahikkala Chieftain

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    I see we're talking about music. Let's talk about music!

    Stop trying to listen to how the music sounds. Listen to what it *says*.

    Baba Yetu says "there is an amazing breadth and depth to the history of the world, and experiencing it is going to be awesome - let's go!". The way it says that is one of the most eloquent in the history of gaming, and Baba Yetu's shoes are pretty enormous to fill... but if you can't, it's okay if the song at least says the right thing.

    One thing that might work out for C2C oddly well is actually... John Adams's work. Yeah, the stuff in the modern age in Civ4. This, for instance. Using that as the musical reflection of modern era gameplay in Civ4 is one damn fine musical choice IMO: The gameplay consists of massive amounts of routine clicking, yet often the story that plays out through that clicking is one of massive wars, or of mankind's reach for the stars. And that's exactly what the music says, in that context: Great things happen through grinding work!

    Consider a few examples that say things that C2C *isn't* about (but that I'm linking as examples of songs that say what they are about in a clear and honest way): The Fate of the World title theme says "there is a threat on the horizon, but it can be defeated". Or take Under a Red Sky from the Star Control 2 remixes: "All of the people of the Earth are suffering a terrible fate together, and there *isn't* any way out". Or, for a more Civ-ish example, every game of the Planetfall mod opens up with A Better Place by Edgen Animations, which is a song about just about every untouched natural idyll ever (Edgen Animations is not my favourite artist)... but in that context, it does interpret pretty neatly as being a question about what you are going to *do* to that idyll.

    I think the current soundtrack remains an excellent choice for C2C. It's reasonably obvious what it's saying - "you're (only) going to like this if you are ridiculously obsessed with Civ and can't have enough of it", and, well, that's a pretty honest message IMO. I most obvious honest thing you *could* say with the opening music is "this is an amazingly grand experience, but you probably won't reach the classical era in the time it takes to play a game of normal Civ", i.e. something similar to John Adams's minimalism. Think something like Anthem by Philip Glass, except of course that would only work in an alternate universe where that song is not immediately associated with The Truman Show. It's surprisingly difficult to find a piece in this genre that says the right thing but also is willing to let itself support the game rather than be the center of attention - I went through a lot of Steve Reich's work, for instance, but all of it had far too much ambition to be usable here.
     
  2. strategyonly

    strategyonly C2C Supreme Commander

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    Dont like any of those either, again treble, last one was better but not enough upbeat to it, infact i dont even like the Christopher stuff, except ingame, then its ok.
     
  3. Hydromancerx

    Hydromancerx C2C Modder

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    What did you think of these?

     
  4. Dancing Hoskuld

    Dancing Hoskuld Deity

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    Since everyone can have what ever music they want in C2C we just need to document how to do it. This goes for starting music and era music.
     
  5. strategyonly

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    8: Completely sux
    9: yuck
    10: really:(
    11. does not know how to sing :sad:
    12: at least a contender
    13: organ really?
    14: has sooo much treble its hard on the ears.

    If we dont have something better than the PreHistoryChannel one, that one WILL BE the next theme for C2C then.

    I never completely said it needs lyrics.

    OK try these:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFa1-kciCb4

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvKXt3Surlk

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8KHXKOji4Q

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKuwTKEXNwY (Even this but only if desperate)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKP9ru_G5vk (i really like this one) this one really tells what HAS happened great stuff, even though its really a documentary.
     
  6. NeWx

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    The Time Machine - Eloi
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LC7-QH2KuQ4


    The Time Machine - Godspeed
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVJCXVx-J98


    The Time Machine - I Don't Belong Here
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjB_oMgtaq8


    Tangerine Dream - Tangram
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2XEH_8PLts


    Tangerine Dream - Stratosfear
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuMYV6e18VQ


    Tangerine Dream - The Big Sleep in Search of Hades
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9_YyF7d3bQ


    Mike Oldfield - The Songs Of Distant Earth
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDqFr4M0PNY
     
  7. Hydromancerx

    Hydromancerx C2C Modder

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    Wow you are really harsh. Do you have some hearing problems with Treble? My dad has some hearing los with Treble too after being around jets in the airforce.

    At any rate I honestly think the PreHistory Channel is by far the worst track on in the prehistoric era. Also the Populous 2 is pretty bad. I would highly advise against having it for the main menu. Especially since the main menu should have something different from the eras. Not to mention this mod is about both the caveman AND the the cosmos as well as all in between. It would be bad if the main menu was just about the prehistoric.

    What we really need is something that spans ALL eras from the prehistoric all the way to space.

    Until then we are better off just leaving Brentalfoss. Atleast that's funny to to people who have no heard it before.

    1. Seriously are we in a western cartoon? No.
    2. Please no. This is an offer I CAN refuse.
    3. Say hello to my little ... NO
    4. Wait what??? That's not even music. That's Narration.
    5. No narrated documentaries!!

    Those were horrible! :thumbsdown:

    EDIT: On a side note it would kind of be funny to have this.


    Link to video.
     
  8. Slarki

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  9. strategyonly

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  11. Hydromancerx

    Hydromancerx C2C Modder

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    1. I think it might be too specific (too German) for this mod.
    2. Wow this has a lot I will get back to you on this one.
    3. These too video game specific.
    4. Wait wasn't the last song on the list one you rejected by voskhod, specifically Time - Inception
    5. Eh.

    So I was going to post inception stuff to since its a really good soundtrack but voskhod already did and now you did. If you want to have "Time - Inception" then I am ok with that. I think its fitting to have "Time" when it involves a game like this.


    Link to video.
     
  12. Slarki

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    Which tracks exactly? The parts I clicked on so far doesn't felt as an intro to civilization. The first one is just about tanks, are you serious? For you it is maybe not a big deal, but I can understand the lyrics and I don't want to hear it everytime I start up civilization.
     
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  14. strategyonly

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    OK i will leave it up to you, hows that. B ut if you use a treble one, so help me, i'll, i'll . . . SO
     
  15. Hydromancerx

    Hydromancerx C2C Modder

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    You who? Slarki? Me? Thundebrd? The forum?
     
  16. Jarolleon

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    Some possibilities: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-SBNgu1hO4
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmthKci9PgE
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLK7Y8s7xDk(Fittingly named, but perhaps too much treble)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYqRyH4fanE(Remix of the previous song)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5poSw7tFLB4

    Also, if we're going to edit the menu songs, should we bring back the system where they vary? For example Civilization(with lyrics) by Brentalfloss used to randomly be exchanged for Istanbul(not Constantinople) making each song less tiresome because they weren't being repeated.
     
  17. GiuseppeIII

    GiuseppeIII The Third Giuseppe

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    why don't we just use a large assortment of songs ?
     
  18. Faustmouse

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    But then make sure every song has the same volume. Last time my PC alsmost exploded whenever one of these songs started...
     
  19. Maxima7

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    This. I hate that one. lol
     
  20. KMRblue1027

    KMRblue1027 The Crown!

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    I vote for Yakko's world or go back to Istanbul.
     

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