"Music is how we decorate time." And avocado green, shag carpet in the bathroom will always be in bad taste.
Why do old people hate new music?
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Fun fact. My parents had a avocado bathroom back in the 70s when it was briefly not only acceptable but virtually compulsory.
Not entirely sure why baths and toilets have to be white. Is there any other area of interior design where innovation and individual preference is so frowned on.
Back On Topic heavy metal is bad because it takes rock, strips out the good bits and amplifies the bad. Why listen to heavy metal when Neil Young or Hawkwind are available.
Chukchi Husky
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I've been saying for years that everything I've been listening to is terrible.
Very similar experience here, except I've been saying for years that everything everyone has been listening to is terrible.
Neil Young is a bad singer with an amazing gift for songwriting and music.
Be honest, how far would he get on America Idol after the new millenium @2:20?
Simon Cowell - I'm sorry kid, your voice is too thin and reedy.
Be honest, how far would he get on America Idol after the new millenium @2:20?
Simon Cowell - I'm sorry kid, your voice is too thin and reedy.
I am listening to the best of the best. Anytime I hear a song that I remember and like, I'll acquire (legally I'm certain) the mp3 of it and add it to my jukebox. The peak of the bell curve is pop rock from the 70s and 80s, but Boogie Woogie Bugle Boy has made the cut as has the occasional recent song. I've got somewhere north of 600 songs now, and can drive to Chicago and back listening to them without repeating any. Yes it drives my wife crazy but such is life.
Perhaps the problem is not NY, but American Idol? Bob Dylan had it worse when he started out.
People will still be covering Neil Young songs long after anyone on American Idol or similar is remembered.
Well, I'm guilty as charged, your Honor.
I'm stuck listening to 60s-00s music; Pink Floyd, Led Zep, The Gathering, Kate Bush, Black Sabbath, Bowie, Iron Maiden, Rammstein, Nightwish, Nine Inch Nails, ABBA, Blur, Gasolin...
I hear new music that I like from time to time, but it just doesn't stick with me for long, for whatever reason. I'll be that old lady who will yell at the youngsters from my porch: 'Uncultured punks!' while blasting 'Feuer Frei'.
I'm stuck listening to 60s-00s music; Pink Floyd, Led Zep, The Gathering, Kate Bush, Black Sabbath, Bowie, Iron Maiden, Rammstein, Nightwish, Nine Inch Nails, ABBA, Blur, Gasolin...
I hear new music that I like from time to time, but it just doesn't stick with me for long, for whatever reason. I'll be that old lady who will yell at the youngsters from my porch: 'Uncultured punks!' while blasting 'Feuer Frei'.
Although this does raise a separate issue.
Up until the 60s most singers weren't writing their own songs
From the 60s onwards the artist who wrote their own songs won a lot more respect. Good for performers who got to keep more of the royalties I guess but not everybody is equally good at both. I much prefer Neil Sedaka as a songwriter than as a performer. Patti Smith has written some pretty good songs but some of her best are covers.
Up until the 60s most singers weren't writing their own songs
From the 60s onwards the artist who wrote their own songs won a lot more respect. Good for performers who got to keep more of the royalties I guess but not everybody is equally good at both. I much prefer Neil Sedaka as a songwriter than as a performer. Patti Smith has written some pretty good songs but some of her best are covers.
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Some of that list is a bit too recent for me. You should try PJ Harvey though. I think you might like her (but I do think everyone should like her).
The Fallout games have been great at introducing me to "new" older music.
Didn't like most of it but theres always
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I find a much stronger reason for song lengths being the way they are is so people who don't like the song only have to wait a few mins for it to change. When I say "radio" I mean public venues in general like a bar or a hair salon, that may or may not be straight playing the radio.
I don't deny that dancing/outfits/videos are a big part of how most people enjoy music. I am just viciously opposed to it. I'm in it to 'listen' not to 'watch' and not to idolize. Not saying I've never watched attached music/lyric videos, but those that I do see aren't just a bunch of hot, suggestive dancers. KPOP can put out some bangers, but I find that whole act repulsive. I've never dressed in the goth/emo fashion that is common with metalheads. I find that aspect of music to be increasingly distracting.
Many of the sins I've listed are old sins it's true (Elvis dancing), but the degrees to which these dominant have increased. Paul Simon, Bob Dylan, Elton John, Mamas & Papas, Kansas, etc., would struggle to be radio hit popular today. I can think of maybe Regina Spektor being an example that got a couple songs on there. That is my basic point. Dance music isn't new, but it's never been as dominant.
Similarly, I don't expect every song to be some intellectual journey, but virtually none are. Artists might release like *one* song in this vein to show that they can, but it's not what dominates (Lil Baby's 'The Bigger Pictire', Taylor Swift's 'You Need To Calm Down') exist, but they're big outliers for those artists and might even be critiqued as hollow virtue signaling. There's also trends in just simpler vocabulary as well (though that's throughout culture). I've heard a lot of cliche metal lyrics, or just pure nonsense that gives the illusion of some deeper meaning. It's still so much more tolerable to me than stuff like "Party in the USA" where the only non-1st-grade words are "cardigan" and "stilettos" because fashion ofc.
As far as some artists still producing music, I'm not saying they up and stopped. I'm really ignorant on Lady Gaga. The only songs I remember of hers though were like the 4 smash hits from her first album. For years it was hard to NOT hear those songs everywhere. She's not retired. I assume she's still making bangers. But her popularity certainly spiked early, and that type of trajectory is what I associate with being fad-like (whether the artist deserves to be a fad or not). Do you think Olivia Rodrigo or Billie Eilish will have multiple radio hits in 10 years? It's not meant as a slight to them, but I sincerely doubt it.
When I say "bands" vs "artists" I'm not saying that bands make better music. It's completely subjective whether Billy Joel is better or worse than Pink Floyd. One-man gigs can be complete, generally when they're playing the piano or the guitar. Record companies have been a parasitic middleman forever. Opportunists have always seen popular acts and wanted to get in on the action. What's different today is that the music industry isn't just trying to profit from artists, it's trying to *create* artists. It can create entire bands too of course, but the path of least resistance is just finding a candidate you like, and then you supply EVERYTHING. They provide the music, the lyrics, supply the necessary band/production, clothes, make-up artists, promoters, choreographer, etc. This confuses the cause and effect of popularity. Are new artists played a lot because they're popular, or are they popular because they're played a lot? Like these singers aren't completely musically ignorant, they often can play an instrument or went through some kind of classic music training. They're not like pulled off the street after all. But still, I think most people would agree that stars aren't born, they're created. You can find that depressing without being a prog head who only listens to songs with at least 4 different time signatures.
My jam is stuff like this for what it's worth:
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I don't know.
TOTP had Hot Gossip and Pans People to distract people from the music they were actually listening to way back ion the 70s afterall.
Moderator Action: Let's not turn this from discussion to video postings please. Music videos have a thread all their own.
That's the one! I found one with better audio quality, though.
