Muslim hypocrisy?

[Marla_Singer]

I see your point when it comes to flag burning and all that, as being offended about that is just as stupid as being offended over satire, but when it comes to violent attacks on people and property, especially the former, I see that quite differently.

And just looking away when angry hordes of Fascists roam the streets leaves me somewhat uneasy anyway...

Let's get this straight. Death threats are prohibited by the law and those who are threatening people to death should be severly prosecuted as soon as possible. Everything prohibited by the law has to be repressed. That's another story.

I wasn't aware about embassies being attacked. I'll read about this. But outside considerations about the retaliations to those attacks, this new event only bring even more stupidity to an already stupid conflict.

 

[DAv2003]

Are you saying European countries should ignore it when gun-toting mobs raze their embassies?

Are you saying Muslims should ignore it when a cartoon shows their prophet being in the same league as Bin Laden?

 

[Hitro]

Are you saying Muslims should ignore it when a cartoon shows their prophet being in the same league as Bin Laden?

Basically, yes. At least when it comes to violence. They can say it sucks, they can draw cartoons to attack people themselves, that's all within free speech. They may not hand out death threats and most certainly not physically attack anything.

 

[LordRahl]

Are you saying Muslims should ignore it when a cartoon shows their prophet being in the same league as Bin Laden?

The irony in the whole situation is, that they are proving the cartoons right, by their very actions. Danish, and Norwegian embassies are being set on fire in Syria as we speak.

 

[storealex]

Are you saying Muslims should ignore it when a cartoon shows their prophet being in the same league as Bin Laden?

Yes of course. We all get offended sometimes, and if we're really really offended, we can protest peacefully, offend back or do something else than it within normal civilsed behavior.

Pride and honor related violence is for barbarians.

 

[Hitro]

Yes of course. We all get offended sometimes, and if we're really really offended, we can protest peacefully, offend back or do something else than it within normal civilsed behavior.

Pride and honor related violence is for barbarians.

That really sums the whole thing up. I sometimes get the impression that some people think the poor Muslims would be the only people to be offended at what happens all over the world. I tell you what, they are not.

 

[DAv2003]

Yes of course. We all get offended sometimes, and if we're really really offended, we can protest peacefully, offend back or do something else than it within normal civilsed behavior.

Pride and honor related violence is for barbarians.

So that's why people who called themselves Christians lynched black people because they wanted to vote?

 

[Hitro]

So that's why people who called themselves Christians lynched black people because they wanted to vote?

That is relevant how exactly?

Actually that should tell you pc people what kind of thing you are defending here, i.e. racism and fascism.

 

[DAv2003]

That is relevant how exactly?

Actually that should tell you pc people what kind of thing you are defending here, i.e. racism and fascism.

It's relevant by saying that those people who commited violence claimed to be Muslims while their actions proved this false. Just like Bin Laden and Islam.

 

[Urederra]

Are you saying Muslims should ignore it when a cartoon shows their prophet being in the same league as Bin Laden?

C'mon. Are you comparing drawing cartoons of a prophet and vandalazing property/death threatening?

After all. he was only a prophet, some guy who says that he can speak with god and predict the future, wasn't he?

 

[DAv2003]

C'mon. Are you comparing drawing cartoons of a prophet and vandalazing property/death threatening?

After all. he was only a prophet, some guy who says that he can speak with god and predict the future, wasn't he?

Only a prophet to you, but to Muslims believe he was the true link between God and man. How would you feel if a person who's ideas you lived you life by was depicted as the worst of humanity?

 

[Gelion]

I dont think these people believe in the word "sacred" thats the whole argument.

 

[Urederra]

Only a prophet to you, but to Muslims believe he was the true link between God and man. How would you feel if a person who's ideas you lived you life by was depicted as the worst of humanity?

I don't really know, maybe because I am not theist.

Maybe angry, but not as angry as to want to burn embassies and want to kill people.

What would they do if somebody draws a picture of allah, their god, instead of mahomah, the prophet?

 

[GenMarshall]

and I thought Islam was a piecefull religion. (BTW, I am not including the ratical fundamentalist Muslims since they are too violent and have been denounced by regular Muslims).

 

[MobBoss]

Only a prophet to you, but to Muslims believe he was the true link between God and man. How would you feel if a person who's ideas you lived you life by was depicted as the worst of humanity?

Oh I dunno. Ever see the "Last Temptation of Christ"?

But it didnt make me feel like torching a few theaters.

 

[GenMarshall]

C'mon. Are you comparing drawing cartoons of a prophet and vandalazing property/death threatening?

After all. he was only a prophet, some guy who says that he can speak with god and predict the future, wasn't he?

I dont reconise Muhammad (spelling please, I dont wish to offend anyone because I misspellt his name ) as a prophet and neather does Judism and Christianity. Yes, I am a Catholic Christian BTW .

 

[ThERat]

I dont think these people believe in the word "sacred" thats the whole argument.

what's sacred to you might not necessarily be sacred to me. So, which side do we need to follow? mine or yours?
I say nobody's. You do and think what you like and I do and think what I like (again of course all well within the limits of laws and humanity).
The problems starts when you want to force me to think like you or to see what's sacred for you as being sacred for me. It doesn't work out and people who believe in religions have to one day get that hammered into their heads.

You might see those as prophets. To me they are just humans like anyone else.

The world will never change, religion simply breeds intolerance, no matter what people claim. Last time it was catholics spreading their so called faith all over the place in whichever fashion they thought is ok. These days christianity is pretty tame at least in the western world, however Islam is not.

 

[ThERat]

all those who now say the reactions we can see to those cartoons are ok, would have also found the following ok after the release of 'last temptation':
Christians running around starting to loot embassies, death threaten the director of the movie or the maker of the movie soundtrack (which was brilliant by the way and made by Peter Gabriel) and asking the country where the film was made to officially apologise to all christians. Nuts....

 

[aneeshm]

Perhaps before judging them you should consider learning your own history? Actions of your people, your traditions and your crimes? Do you have the right to generalize? If you do then please look into the mirror.

You seem to embody an attitude which I consider extremely detrimental - the attitude of "Let he who is sinless throw the first stone" . No . This is incorrect . Those who are less evil are definitely morally justified in damning those more evil .

 

[Winner]

No, I simply say that we should ignore all those Middle East provocations and continue the way we did before. I couldn't care less about Middle East protestors.

Hide your head in the sand, if you want. I am not gonna be a voluntary ignorant.

Marla, your solution to every problem is basically: do nothing, it will end up somehow. Cars burning in France, but what the hell, I don't care, it's not my business. Embassies burning in Syria and people getting threatened with death? So what, I don't care about the Middle East.

Maybe you'd be a successful politician.