NATO, Occupy and Chicago

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The NATO/Occupy protest have all wrapped up here in Chicago. I thought I'd talk a little bit about what I noticed, over the last few days.

First, I missed what happened at the beginning of the protests...I was out of town Friday and Saturday (partly on purpose), and was not downtown very much on Sunday (although my sister and several friends were). I work pretty close to the Boeing Building though, so I saw a lot of the events on Monday.

First, the number of people protesting was waaaay less than anybody expected.It was certainly less than what the cops were expecting, which is why they showed up looking like they were going to invade Indiana, not watch over a few hundred college students. The event organizes were expecting several thousand more protesters, as were Chicagoans in general (which is why so many avoided downtown during the weekend). I understand Sunday was the largest day, but many of the Monday events had less than a thousand people, and I also understand that Sunday's events were boosted by a Nurses convention that was happening at the same time.

There had been anti-NATO graffiti or posters around the city for a fairly long time...I started seeing it in my neighborhood back in March. I'm not sure if the promise of a heavy police presence deterred people, or just lack of interest.

The general consensus is that things went fairly smoothly. There were some minor scuffles on Sunday, and perhaps a bogus arrest right before the Summit (more on this in a second), but given the high tensions, this was NOTHING like say, Oakland. Some of the scuffles can be blamed on an anarchist presence, and also some people actively trying to get arrested. Others could be blamed on bad police work.

One interesting thing I've noticed the OccupyChicago people doing is taking a more local approach. I think this is key. #Chicago likely has one of the largest Occupy chapters...the official twitter account has over 30K followers, and many have estimated that among the various local groups, there are as many as 5,000 actual occupiers. Recently, they've turned their guns at the Mayor's closing of 12 community medical centers (for budget reasons). One of these is just around the block from my house, in a mostly Hispanic neighborhood. There are 2 people that are camping on the sidewalk there, and during the late afternoon, there are as many as 5 people there with signs. I dunno how effective camping is, but drawing attention to a real, tangible issue is a good start.

The most troubling thing for me is the news about the arrest of 3 activists on suspicion of terrorism charges. Lawyers for the defendants claim the 3 were just brewing beer, not making Moltov Cocktails...and info from the city has been sporadic at best. This is a pretty significant problem....Chicago's public institutions (the courts, and ESPECIALLY the Mayor's Office) have not been responsive to the public...and there are a lot of unpopular measures that are being heavily pushed through a rubber stamp city council.

I see Occupy groups as a possible real progressive voice to help check that sort of technocratic power, but only if they start doing real engagement. For one thing, these protests were almost exclusively white (and with a lot of out of towners). Chicago is only about 1/3 white, and has a comparatively small working-class white population. There are a whole lot of poorer blacks and latinos who are being left behind in the city, but little effort has been made to effectively organize their voices. The OccupyPress headline was something about occupying the PGA.

Really? Do you think the Mexicans in the west side, without subway service or police, give a flying crap about discrimination in professional golf? When THIS is the picture of the protest, you are not being effective.

What do you guys think?

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I like that photo a lot.

Also, I kept saying it wasn't going to be a big deal. :p None of the usual suspects could figure out how NATO fit into the protest. That should be a pretty clear tip off that the turnout is going to be small. Loads of down town folk were reinforcing their windows and heightening security in all kinds of manners, both business and residential. It seemed way overhyped to me. Most of the working class folk I talked to during the lead up said they didn't think it was going to be a big deal, as well.
 
I like that photo a lot.

Also, I kept saying it wasn't going to be a big deal. :p None of the usual suspects could figure out how NATO fit into the protest. That should be a pretty clear tip off that the turnout is going to be small. Loads of down town folk were reinforcing their windows and heightening security in all kinds of manners, both business and residential. It seemed way overhyped to me. Most of the working class folk I talked to during the lead up said they didn't think it was going to be a big deal, as well.

Yeah, the downtown business people were way spooked. Our office normally has 1 security guard (and he's unarmed)...on Monday we had 3, all packing heat. My wife works in the same office building as Obama HQ, and everybody took the day off. My own office was only at 1/3 capacity.

Crains reported that the city had a pretty terrible retail weekend too. I guess everybody was too afraid to venture downtown.
 
I think that you're definitely on the mark with the comment on the limited demographics that OWS tends to represent. The Occupy movement is to a not insignificant extent an outgrowth of the activist ghetto, and while a lot of important steps have been to move beyond that, it comes with the same baggage, namely, that it is disproportionately comprised of alienated white students and ex-students. (They had an Occupation here in Dundee which epitomised this sort of problem: it was basically a dozen people and a black flag camped out in the middle of town being ignored by everyone, even the police.) I think we're at a point where circumstances permit us to go beyond that sort of voluntarism, that it's actually possible to organise around concrete necessities rather than abstract ideals, but in the absence of anyone with any actual experience of a popular mass-movement of this sort, or of any historical movement that operated in the same terrain that we find ourselves in, it's going to involve a lot of blind stumbling.

(Although I'd quibble the comment on "an anarchist presence". Not every anarchist is a home-grown insurrecto, especially in a place like Chicago with a pretty respectable IWW branch.)
 
The original impetus for Occupy Wall Street came from the New York activist milieu ("ghetto" simply being my unflattering ultra-left way of describing it), and while it's certainly gone beyond that- the simple fact that the great majority of participants are not self-declared "activists", if nothing else- it still informs a lot of their methods and rhetoric. Without meaning to over-simplify too much, there's still a tendency to begin with a righteous indignation rather than with concrete needs, which can make it inaccessible to those who do not share your indignation, even if they share your needs. As Downtown says, a lot of the stock issues that are being brought forward are of little interest to those who this sort of movement can do the most help, and who can do the most to help the movement.
 
This certainly looks like a "sizable" number of protestors to me:

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Here's some of the Occupy Chicago protesters:

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And it does look like the riot cops were planning to "invade Indiana":

Spoiler :
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Yeah, those are both from Sunday, where there were several thousand downtown (I think the Tribune put it at ~5,000?).

That first picture looks a lot bigger than it actually was, because there are a lot of just regular people walking around (several streets were closed). That isn't the parade route.
 
lol@occupy Dundee

Isn't there a murder like every day in Chicago? The police sure can lay it on thick to protect people from a few hundred irrelevant hippies though :rolleyes:
 
I think that you're definitely on the mark with the comment on the limited demographics that OWS tends to represent. The Occupy movement is to a not insignificant extent an outgrowth of the activist ghetto, and while a lot of important steps have been to move beyond that, it comes with the same baggage, namely, that it is disproportionately comprised of alienated white students and ex-students. (They had an Occupation here in Dundee which epitomised this sort of problem: it was basically a dozen people and a black flag camped out in the middle of town being ignored by everyone, even the police.) I think we're at a point where circumstances permit us to go beyond that sort of voluntarism, that it's actually possible to organise around concrete necessities rather than abstract ideals, but in the absence of anyone with any actual experience of a popular mass-movement of this sort, or of any historical movement that operated in the same terrain that we find ourselves in, it's going to involve a lot of blind stumbling.

(Although I'd quibble the comment on "an anarchist presence". Not every anarchist is a home-grown insurrecto, especially in a place like Chicago with a pretty respectable IWW branch.)

There is an anarchist presence. I don't really know if they're homegrown or not, but I don't think that's a point. There almost always is at these sorts of things...they were at the WTO protests in Seattle, they were certainly part of the violence in Oakland, and we have a few of them here.

As for the rest of your post, good. That's basically what I've been saying all along.
Isn't there a murder like every day in Chicago? The police sure can lay it on thick to protect people from a few hundred irrelevant hippies though :rolleyes:

Chicago's violent crime rate is pretty high (and unlike most other US cities, it's actually gotten worse during the recession). Most of the *violent* crimes are more concentrated in the southern section of the city, and in places where gang activity is high. Surprise! The city doesn't care so much that poor black or brown people are dying. If white tourists or downtown businesses are at risk though, they send out an invasion force.
 
There is an anarchist presence. I don't really know if they're homegrown or not, but I don't think that's a point. There almost always is at these sorts of things...they were at the WTO protests in Seattle, they were certainly part of the violence in Oakland, and we have a few of them here.
I'm not saying that there's not an anarchist presence, but that "anarchist" doesn't immediately translate into "brick-lobbing rowdy". Most anarchists don't do that- hence the reference to the IWW, a syndicalist union with a prominent anarchist current- so identifying that as "the anarchist presence" is unfair, like looking at the Tea Partiers who wave guns around and saying "oh, that's the conservative presence".
 
Wait, are these guys both Occupy protesters and anti-NATO protestors? That's a very odd combination if I may say so. Anti-NATO at all is kind of bizarre.
 
Wait, are these guys both Occupy protesters and anti-NATO protestors? That's a very odd combination if I may say so.

Why is that?

Anti-NATO at all is kind of bizarre.

Why is being against an American-dominated military organization that invades other countries bizarre?
 
Wait, are these guys both Occupy protesters and anti-NATO protestors?
I thought it was obvious, it's the anti-NATO protesters and the riot police during the protest. They met up at a burger joint or smthing.
 
Why is that?

Well, one is a very domestic issue, and one is a very foreign policy issue. They're mostly separate.

Why is being against an American-dominated military organization that invades other countries bizarre?

I don't have any problem with people being anti-NATO, I just had never heard of any serious anti-NATO sentiment in the last 20 years. Plenty of people who think Afghanistan was a bad idea, but not anti-NATO.

I thought it was obvious, it's the anti-NATO protesters and the riot police during the protest. They met up at a burger joint or smthing.

That just struck me as generic protester. Not sure how I would glean his issue of choice from that pic.
 
Anti-NATO and general US leftism protests kinda blended together over the weekend. It was just as likely to see a guy with a NO NATO sign as something about the 1%
 
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