Nero02-no science - Emperor

[Methos]

I've got it, but it won't be until Wednesday before I can play. RL interferes tomorrow and I'm playing my Theos3 turns now.

 

[nerovats]

I'd go for the luxes to reduce sliders.

 

[Methos]

Sorry guys, but I'm going to need a skip this time. My week has been very busy. I would finish my turnset but on turn 3 we got declared on. In other words my turns are about to get really long. This weekend things should slow down.

Here's up to turn 3.

Pre-Turn: Everything looks good.

310 BC: Rush a temple in Chondote to attempt to take the wines culturally.

290 BC: Zzzz
IT: Inca declare on us. Inca attacks our MW and kicks off our GA. Our vMW is promoted to elite.

Sorry again, here's the save

 

[nerovats]

No worries, better next time.
namliaM is up.

 

[nerovats]

I´ll be gone for about a week, starting tomorrow. Probably won´t have internet access, will post as soon as I come back.

 

[Methos]

Roster:
Nerovats- Away
Mathias- On Deck
Methos- Just Played (partially)
namliaM- Up

 

[Methos]

Well, namliaM hasn't been online since the 15th. Nerovats is gone for a week and Mathias just played 4 turns ago. I've got the time so I'll pick it back up and finish my turnset.

Playing now.

 

[Methos]

270 BC: Knock Inca’s invasion force down to a single warrior, at least in sight. With the GA figured I’d take advantage of it. Salamanca switches to Marketplace. Cattaraugus switches to Harbor. Centralia switches to Courthouse. Set slider at 8/0/2
IT: Japanese warriors head towards our lands.

250 BC: Do a little trading:
Maya: We get Monotheism; we give 39 gpt and 237 gold
Ottomans: We get Engineering; we give Monotheism, 1 gpt, and 2 gold.

190 BC: Disband the curragh that has been sitting there for my whole turnset.
Netherlands: We get Feudalism; we give Engineering, Monotheism, and 9 gold
Japan: We get 4 gpt and 14 gold; we give Monotheism

-Sorry, didn’t keep much of a turnlog. Not much happened really. I mostly built either courthouses or marketplaces.
-Not much of a military force is needed to repel Inca. They have been sending about 1 or 2 units every turn (either warriors or chasqui scouts). I’ve been attempting to fish for leaders with our two elite MW.
-In two turns the wines will be connected. This should help out with happiness big time, especially when we get all the marketplaces built.
-Currently we don’t have any good trades available. We could buy Invention and than try to grab Gunpowder from the first civ to get it.

Here's the save

 

[Methos]

Roster:
Nerovats- Away
Mathias- On Deck
Methos- Just Played (partially)
namliaM- Up

Well Mathias, namliaM hasn't been online since the morning of the 15th (Midwest time) so do you want to skip him for now? Since he's MIA and Nerovats is away it's just you and I for now.

This means your up.

Edit: One option is just to wait until Nerovats gets back. I don't mind playing a 2-person SG but it'll mean we're playing every couple of days.

 

[Mathias]

I'd rather wait for Nerovats.

 

[Methos]

With any luck namliaM will show up and take it.

When I posted the above it didn't dawn on me that Math04 was the same way.

 

[nerovats]

I'm back.
Will skip namliaM (over a week now?) will play later today.

 

[nerovats]

pre-turn
change gayagaahe to temple and rush it to make yokohama flip
130BC
MC market->duct
110BC
get kicked out of russian territory, will take their city when there's a road.
GR court->market
90BC
Oil springs court->duct
kahnawake court->market
rush temple in Ganogeh
70BC
Allegheny court->market
Gandasetaigon walls->temple
Ganogeeh temple->harbor
NF harbor->court
50BC
MC duct->harbor
St Regis court->market
2 iro archers are near, they are willing to negotiate
first use the elites no leaders.
Give iro's peace and get 8gpt and 83 gold.
Buy chivalry from mayan's for 20gpt and 420 gold
was hoping to sell it to dutch and Ottomans but they won't pay, and want to much extra for invention, hope to get that for peace with russians After taking their city.
Rush Rax in Chodonte
30BC
Salamanca cathedral->knight templar
Chodonte rax->market
upgrade sevrel MW's
10BC
Centralia market->rax
10AD
Cattaraugus duct->market
Oil Spring duct->market
Tonawada court->duct
Akwesasne market->court
Tyendenaga court->market
Caughnawaga court->market
Take Orenburg, no losses 1 elite knight.
chop forrest near orenburg rush wall.
30AD
Oka temple->harbor
Orenburg wall->temple
GR market->knight
NF court->rax
50AD
MC harbor->knight

We could take all the land north of our starting peninsula, we then control 5 luxes. Then keep peace and try to influence science.
Short term silks will be connected shortly, probably best to make peace with russians first and prepare a bigger army. Try and get a tech from them.

 

[Mathias]

Got it, will play this evening.

 

[Mathias]

Sorry, I need a skip or a swap. Too many things to do.

 

[Methos]

I won't be able to play until Wednesday, so I don't mind waiting. If Wednesday ain't enough time I'll take it then. I believe it's just the three of us right now.

 

[Methos]

Mathias: As I recall Wednesdays you are always busy, so do you want me to take it tomorrow?

 

[Mathias]

Yes. Hopefully, I'll have time to play on Thursday.

 

[Methos]

Pre-Turn: Russians are not willing to talk yet.
IT: The Russians talk the Indians into signing a military alliance against us.

110 AD (3): We capture Yekaterinburg.
Russia: We get Peace; we give Peace
Inca: We get Theology; we give 907 gold
Somehow our rep is toast.

AD (5):
Netherlands: We get Invention; we give Theology and 297 gold

Decided to stop here and check on our rep.

@150 BC our rep is still intact. I can get Invention for 54 gpt, no cash.
@50 AD when I try and make the same deal I have to pay 244 gpt for Invention.

Somewhere between those two dates our rep became toast. I’ve looked it over and don’t see anything in Nero’s turn log that would suggest what happened. I’m not sure where the problem happened.

Here’s the thing, since we are going for no science trading is the best possibility for us up until we can safely steal techs. With our ability to make gpt deals gone the only thing we have left is saving up massive amounts of cash. Losing our rep this early is going to cause this game to become a lot more difficult.

I’ll stop here so we can discuss how to continue.

Here's the save.

 

[Mathias]

Nero didn't log a DoW on Russia. Since the attack was the only action logged after buying Chivalry in 50 BC, I would guess that it was a 'sneak attack' or otherwise seen as RoP rape.