NES2 V - The Great Game.

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While technically it is jointly owned Perso-Federate territory with the harbor facilities under Federate control, we understand.

We simply wanted to ascertain that the personnel training our navy would continue to do so, until the end of 1866.
 
[size=+1]Hungarian Military[/size]


The Reforms of Király Lajos III

When Lajos III Bourbon accepted the Crown of St. Stephen, he brought with him to his new Kingdom his training, talent, and experience in the elite circles of the French military. His first act following the coronation was to review the garrison of Budapest; and while Lajos liked the enthusiasm and natural talent of the Husjars, he was not impressed by the quality of the army. The King therefore set out, upon the formation of the Kossuth government, to overhaul the nascent Hungarian military, and to restructure and strengthen it along French military lines. The resulting policy, crafted by King Lajos III, Minister of War Ödön Beöthy, and General of the Army Artúr Görgey, would come to be known as the Bourbon Reforms.

Lajos' reforms focused on two principal areas: organization and tactics. The diverse and irregular origin of the Hungarian military in the War of Independence had caused it to develop along strange and disorganized lines; while the National Army was now a centralized force, it maintained the disorganized quality of a revolutionary army constructed from disparate militias and volunteer forces. The Bourbon Reforms sought to address this problem, by reconstituting the Army on the model of the French Imperial Army. All forces would be reorganized into units of standardized size and strength, and arranged into a strict hierarchy of command and attachment. The tenure of officers would be reevaluated, and the command structure adjusted to place the best and most qualified strategic leaders at the top. Most importantly, a permanent corps of professional non-commissioned officers would be formed, to provide the Army with a steady foundation of knowledge, experience, proficiency, and tactical leadership.

Military Education

For the purpose of improving the quality of commissioned officers, and to ensure a steady supply of leaders after the Revolutionary generation had retired, the King chartered and ordered the construction of the Royal National Defence University in Budapest. The University would provide prospective military officers with a broad-based collegiate education, followed by an intensive officer-development and military arts programme. The classical education provided to all students at RNDU Budapest includes history, geography, advanced mathematics, engineering, physical sciences, Latin, German, French, European literature, and physical fitness. The officer-development programme teaches potential commanders essential leadership skills and the ethics of command, and the military arts programme prepares cadets for command with an education in classical military history, historical strategy, historical tactical theory, modern tactical doctrine, artillery tactics, logistics, military mapping, and defensive engineering. Cadets who successfully graduate from NMDU Budapest enter the Army as commissioned Hadnagyi (Second Lieutenants).

Lajos III ordered that a similar Royal National Service Academy be established at Pecs to train the NCO corps. Unlike RNDU Budapest, the Academy would retrain veteran soliders, rather than training fresh cadets. Soldiers who had displayed exceptional skill, proficiency, and leadership qualities during their time as enlisted men would be offered promotion to the rank of Őrmester (Sergeant) and the opportunity to attend the Academy. The Academy's three-year NCO development programme combines an education in mathematics, physical sciences, engineering, military history, and languages with a military arts curriculum focusing on leadership skills, small-team leadership, historical tactical theory, modern tactical doctrine, artillery tactics, weapons proficiency, survival skills, and physical fitness. Cadets who successfuly graduate from the Academy reenter the army as professional Főtörzsőrmesteri (Staff Sergeants), responsible for training and leading small units. These educated, experienced noncommissioned officers form the backbone of the new Hungarian National Army.

Tactical Reforms

The other focus of the Bourbon Reforms is tactical doctrine. During the War of Independence, the Hungarians had been forced to rely on irregular tactics and the high-mobility doctrine of the Husjars. However, the Revolution was over, and the nation was no longer required to field an ad hoc force to resist a vastly superior enemy. Instead, Lajos III and Artúr Görgey intended to implement a new doctrine of organized, disciplined combined-arms tactics, relying on skilled heavy infantry and the effective use of artillery to defeat enemy forces.

Lajos' own time in the French Army had somewhat biased him in favour of heavy infantry and against cavalry. Experience had taught the King that cavalry were obsolete on the modern battlefield, in the face of exploding shells and repeating rifles. On the contrary, his time with the Garde Imperiale had proven, in his mind, the supremacy of a disciplined, organized, skilled force of well-armed heavy infantry. The Husjars were therefore phased out of service in favour of the Királyi-Nemzeti Gránátosok.

The Royal-National Grenadiers are the elite Hungarian heavy infantry force, modeled after the French Garde Imperiale. They are a well-organized, well-disciplined assault infantry unit, utilizing superior firepower to destroy enemy units.

Each Grenadier is hand-selected from the standing Army on the criteria of experience, strength, fitness, weapons proficiency, loyalty, bravery, and leadership. The Grenadier candidates then undergo a rigourous training program, in which they are physically and mentally hardened, taught the knowledge and skills they will need to excel on the battlefield, and trained to perfect proficiency with all the weapons of their unit. Those who successfully complete the program (approximately one quarter of all candidates selected) are granted the rank of Őrmester and inducted into the nation's elite force.

The Grenadiers are heavilly-armed, significantly outclassing other Hungarian infantry units -- and the infantry forces of some other nations -- in terms of firepower. The standard firearm of the Grenadiers is the large-caliber breech-loading, a weapon with great accuracy, stopping power, and range. While each rifle is fitted with a socket bayonet, all Grenadiers also carry large combat knives for close-in fighting. In addition to their rifles and knives, Grenadiers carry hand-thrown bombs. These bombs are thin-skinned hollow iron balls, filled with explosive and a primitive timed friction fuse. When the friction fuse ignites the filler, the bomb explodes, throwing iron shards of varying size out in all directions. Used at close range against massed enemy troops, these simple explosive devices can cause great damage and demoralization.

The new tactics of the Bourbon Reforms focus on combined-arms cooperation and concentrated firepower. All regular soliders are to be equipped as heavy infantry, with powerful breech-loading rifles. These infantrymen are to engage the enemy in disciplined but flexible combat formations, concentrating their fire and strength against the enemy where it is most needed. The infantry advance under constant support from the artillery, who are deployed to secure the most advantage and commanding position on the battlefield. Heavy artillery provides ranged supporting fire, pounding the massed enemy; lighter artillery, deployed at the front with the infantry, provides direct close fire support. Marksmen, sheltered behind the line, serve in a capacity similar to artillery; they provide ranged fire support, targeting officers to reduce the coherence of enemy units, and targeting sheltered or hidden enemy troops to dislodge them or expose them to the regular infantry. Cavalry are largely relegated to scouting the field, pursuing fleeing enemy infantry, and disrupting supply lines and artillery positions; the days of the heavy cavalry charge are over.
 
Don't you think hungarian army is a bit ahead of its time? First man-portable mortars were developed in 1915 OTL, with first worldwar boosting it's production. And same goes for grenades, first reliable frags came into use sometime during the start of 20th century.
 
So the Treaty of Constantinopol is agreed by all parties then? If so excellent.

Now what is the ottoman response to our further offers? If they wish to leave the borders as is, we will expect our reparations shortly...
 
If you think about the technology, its not all that unfeasible. I never said they were WWI quality; imagine how a comparable technology would function in the 1860's. Primitive but effective fused explosives came into use during the US Civil War, if not earlier; what is a grenade, or a mortar shell, but a similar fused explosive device... in the case of the shell, with a propellant (in this case, a self-contained smokeless powder charge, just like those used in breech-loading rifles, but bigger) attached at the end? So although it doesn't follow our timeline, I contend it is possible. If Das tells me its a problem, I will change it.
 
Mortars used in american civil war were weren't man portable, railroads were still recuired to transport them. Mortarts of that time were large, 13-inch steel barrels, and there is quite a lot of more developement recuired to create a man portable mortar. But i think it would be best for das to decide, as i'm sure he knows lot more about these than I...
 
Qing China announces that all naval traffic into the ports of the Province of Japan are closed untill further notice. The same goes for ships that are leaving the ports.
 
If Hungary wanted to develop such mortars, perhaps it would be wise to invest into education, or into researching better weaponry.

IC:

From: Persia
To: Ottoman Empire

We await your response as to the status of the Shi'ite Muslims. Are they to have local autonomy, or will they merely be granted full political rights, the same as Turks, by an Imperial decree?
 
I wasn't referring to Civil War mortars; I was referring to the "land mines" or "land torpedoes" (iron tubes packed with explosive) that could easilly be developed into propelled shells. Placing one of those in another iron tube of adequate thickness to withstand a propellant blast (read: large gun barrel) would not require a tremendous amount of research. Basically, its all very simple technology that would have been available at the time, if someone had had the foresight to think of putting it together. But if everyone has such a problem with it, I'll change it.
 
OOC: So we have no problem with an oversized & overpowered cannon, but we do with an undersized and overpowered one? :rolleyes: :p
 
conehead234 said:
Qing China announces that all naval traffic into the ports of the Province of Japan are closed untill further notice. The same goes for ships that are leaving the ports.

Could we inquire as to why? It seems the japanese rebellion has been quite crushed.

Also traffic with your other ports is still open we hope?
 
You know what...Im gonna take Italy.

das, tell me everything there is know about Italy :p
 
Balkan rebels!!!Gimme gimme.
 
To Sweden
From Muscovy

So are you ready to come to the bargaining table or shall we continue spanking you?



OOC: So we have no problem with an oversized & overpowered cannon, but we do with an undersized and overpowered one?

Boo hoo...its historically accurate. The Ottomans built such a cannon in 1453, the Rajputs built the Jai Ban cannon sometime in the 1500's, the Russians had the Tsar Cannon and so on.
There are many people who have built such supercannons the technology is nothing new.
 
Yeah the supercannons work, do a lot of damage and then rip themselves apart after a few uses. A man-portable mortar, requiring advanced materials technology improves the battlefield capability of a whole army...really quite different situations.

@Cleric; You're really about one turn too late to do that effectively :lol:
 
GM, the mortars are on the Crimean War level right now.

das, tell me everything there is know about Italy

It is quite pro-French. It recently had a civil war after King Umberto went mad (uh, Reno introduced radical reforms); he was overthrown by his brother Carlo, who is still in charge. The Italians, thus, are rather allergic to reforms, and also happen to be very nationalistic. During the civil war, Imperial forces occupied Venice. The Treaty of Turin, not signed by Italy itself, left it in their hands. When a civil war begun in the HRE itself (the Kingdom of New Prussia, the Swedish Intervention, the Stralsund Reichstag...), the Italians made a grab for it, and took the city as well as some other territories as the Imperials were distracted. But the Imperials refused to recognize Venice as an Italian city, and so Italy is still at war with HRE.
 
Disenfrancised said:
@Cleric; You're really about one turn too late to do that effectively :lol:

What happend?Did they get genocided or islamized too much? :( :cry:
 
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