Never Before Seen Civs - Elimination Game

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Argentines 18-3=15 Haven't caught my interest.
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 23
Berbers/Tuareg 20
Bulgarians/Romanians/Other Balkans 20
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 21
Cubans/Haitians/Other Caribbean 11
Etruscans 15
Gauls/Britons 20+1=21 Reform the Celts!
Georgians 22
Gran Colombia/Other Colonial SA 17
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW NA 24
Irish/Scottish 22
Khazars 22
Kushans/Bactrians 17
Lydians/Pontus/Other Anatolians 12
Maori/Other Polynesians 22
Nepalese 21
Timurids/Other Central Asia 21
 
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Argentines 15
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 23
Berbers/Tuareg 20
Bulgarians/Romanians/Other Balkans 20
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 21
Cubans/Haitians/Other Caribbean 8 (11 - 3) -- Unless extreme poverty is an achievement, I can't think of many major achievements of modern Caribbean nations.
Etruscans 15
Gauls/Britons 21
Georgians 22
Gran Colombia/Other Colonial SA 17
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW NA 25 (24 + 1) -- I'll take any of them. It would be refreshing to have a culture- and growth-focused Native American civilization, rather than the usual "war, horses, and forests" thing.
Irish/Scottish 22
Khazars 22
Kushans/Bactrians 17
Lydians/Pontus/Other Anatolians 12
Maori/Other Polynesians 22
Nepalese 21
Timurids/Other Central Asia 21
 
Argentines 15
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 23
Berbers/Tuareg 17 (20-3) I'd prefer Mali and Morocco
Bulgarians/Romanians/Other Balkans 20
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 21
Cubans/Haitians/Other Caribbean 8
Etruscans 15
Gauls/Britons 21
Georgians 22
Gran Colombia/Other Colonial SA 17
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW NA 25
Irish/Scottish 22
Khazars 22
Kushans/Bactrians 17
Lydians/Pontus/Other Anatolians 12
Maori/Other Polynesians 22
Nepalese 22 (21+1) and another vote for my #1 on this list. I hope it wouldn't just become a generic mountain civ.
Timurids/Other Central Asia 21
 
Argentines 12 (15 - 3) This nation's history is rather weak compared to other nations.
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 23
Berbers/Tuareg 17
Bulgarians/Romanians/Other Balkans 20
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 21
Cubans/Haitians/Other Caribbean 8
Etruscans 15
Gauls/Britons 22 (21 + 1) A very important people neglected by firaxis.
Georgians 22
Gran Colombia/Other Colonial SA 17
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW NA 25
Irish/Scottish 22
Khazars 22
Kushans/Bactrians 17
Lydians/Pontus/Other Anatolians 12
Maori/Other Polynesians 22
Nepalese 22
Timurids/Other Central Asia 21
 
Argentines 12
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 23
Berbers/Tuareg 17
Bulgarians/Romanians/Other Balkans 20
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 21
Cubans/Haitians/Other Caribbean (8+1)=9 I guess this category includes Taino, right? I would like to see Anacaona as a leader in the game, though there are issues with how much we know about the Taino language
Etruscans 15
Gauls/Britons 22
Georgians 22
Gran Colombia/Other Colonial SA 17
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW NA 25
Irish/Scottish 22
Khazars 22
Kushans/Bactrians 17
Lydians/Pontus/Other Anatolians (12-3)=9 Hittites would be enough to represent this area
Maori/Other Polynesians 22
Nepalese 22
Timurids/Other Central Asia 21
 
Argentines 12 - 3 = 9 (Not all that rich a historical record. Gran Colombia at least has a cool leader)
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 23
Berbers/Tuareg 17
Bulgarians/Romanians/Other Balkans 20
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 21
Cubans/Haitians/Other Caribbean 9
Etruscans 15
Gauls/Britons 22
Georgians 22
Gran Colombia/Other Colonial SA 17
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW NA 25
Irish/Scottish 22
Khazars 22
Kushans/Bactrians 17
Lydians/Pontus/Other Anatolians 9
Maori/Other Polynesians 22 + 1 = 23 (Yes to Maori warriors, ancestral meeting houses with cool carved prows, and Maori music. The language would also not be a problem)
Nepalese 22
Timurids/Other Central Asia 21
 
Argentines 9
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 23
Berbers/Tuareg 17
Bulgarians/Romanians/Other Balkans 20+1=21 - We have only two Greeces and Macedon, and that is Alexander's civ, so it's close to Greece. Bulgarians or Serbians, please!
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 21
Cubans/Haitians/Other Caribbean 9-3=6 - I'm not interrested in these civs. There are much better choices.
Etruscans 15
Gauls/Britons 22
Georgians 22
Gran Colombia/Other Colonial SA 17
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW NA 25
Irish/Scottish 22
Khazars 22
Kushans/Bactrians 17
Lydians/Pontus/Other Anatolians 9
Maori/Other Polynesians 23
Nepalese 22
Timurids/Other Central Asia 21
 
Argentines 9
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 23
Berbers/Tuareg 17
Bulgarians/Romanians/Other Balkans 21
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 21
Cubans/Haitians/Other Caribbean 6
Etruscans 12 (15 - 3) I'm not convinced we need two Italian civs, and if we do a modern Italian civ would bring more variety than a Roman contemporary.
Gauls/Britons 22
Georgians 22
Gran Colombia/Other Colonial SA 17
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW NA 26 (25 + 1) While its certainly not the biggest argument in their favor, their art style would be great for civ and unit icons.
Irish/Scottish 22
Khazars 22
Kushans/Bactrians 17
Lydians/Pontus/Other Anatolians 9
Maori/Other Polynesians 23
Nepalese 22
Timurids/Other Central Asia 21
 
Argentines 9
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 23
Berbers/Tuareg 18 (17+1) It was a hard choice to make, because there are many good possibilities here. But I go for the Tuaregs because they are poorly known by the public despite having a very distinctive and ancient culture. I'm also against the multiplication of arabian civs like morocco to cover north africa (we already have arabia, and andalusia would be a better choice).
Bulgarians/Romanians/Other Balkans 21
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 21
Cubans/Haitians/Other Caribbean 6
Etruscans 12
Gauls/Britons 19 (22-3) For the same reason as people voted against an Italian civ, it doesn't make sense to gather all these very different people within one civ. It would also just be another cliché civ with moustaches and warriors... please no.
Georgians 22
Gran Colombia/Other Colonial SA 17
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW NA 26
Irish/Scottish 22
Khazars 22
Kushans/Bactrians 17
Lydians/Pontus/Other Anatolians 9
Maori/Other Polynesians 23
Nepalese 22
Timurids/Other Central Asia 21
 
Argentines 9
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 23
Berbers/Tuareg 18
Bulgarians/Romanians/Other Balkans 21
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 21
Cubans/Haitians/Other Caribbean 6 - 3 = 3 Same explanation of my previous post, the Arawak/Taino tribes are the only viable to represent the Caribbean. Any modern nation of the Caribbean is far behind even among all modern nations not yet included. If they include the Arawak/Taino tribes led by Anacaona and I will be happy.
Etruscans 12
Gauls/Britons 19
Georgians 22
Gran Colombia/Other Colonial SA 17
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW NA 26
Irish/Scottish 22
Khazars 22
Kushans/Bactrians 17
Lydians/Pontus/Other Anatolians 9
Maori/Other Polynesians 23 + 1 = 24 Maori to represent the islands of New Zealand would be a good choice.
Nepalese 22
Timurids/Other Central Asia 21
 
Argentines 9
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 23
Berbers/Tuareg 18
Bulgarians/Romanians/Other Balkans 21
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 21
Cubans/Haitians/Other Caribbean 3-3=0 Finishing them off.
Etruscans 12
Gauls/Britons 19+1=20 Hands off the mustaches!
Georgians 22
Gran Colombia/Other Colonial SA 17
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW NA 26
Irish/Scottish 22
Khazars 22
Kushans/Bactrians 17
Lydians/Pontus/Other Anatolians 9
Maori/Other Polynesians 24
Nepalese 22
Timurids/Other Central Asia 21
 
Argentines 9
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 23
Berbers/Tuareg 18
Bulgarians/Romanians/Other Balkans 21+ 1 = 22 voting again for Bulgaria for the reason I said earlier !
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 21
Etruscans 12 - 3 = 9 I fail to see what could they bring (plus, modern Italy to represent the region aside Rome)
Gauls/Britons 20
Georgians 22
Gran Colombia/Other Colonial SA 17
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW NA 26
Irish/Scottish 22
Khazars 22
Kushans/Bactrians 17
Lydians/Pontus/Other Anatolians 9
Maori/Other Polynesians 24
Nepalese 22
Timurids/Other Central Asia 21
 
Argentines 10 (9+1) Buying them one life. I down voted them before iirc, but they should be among the first three to go. It's, for me, one of the more interesting post colonial options. Actually together with Mexico the best that we didn't have yet.
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 23
Berbers/Tuareg 18
Bulgarians/Romanians/Other Balkans 22
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 21
Etruscans 9
Gauls/Britons 20
Georgians 22
Gran Colombia/Other Colonial SA 17
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW NA 26
Irish/Scottish 22
Khazars 19 (22-3) I think they were to regional to belong into civ. Despite their leaders being of Jewish faith, I also don't see so many special things compared to the many other intersting civs that lived in that era. And if you go for the religion thing, I think Armenia is more intersting.
Kushans/Bactrians 17
Lydians/Pontus/Other Anatolians 9
Maori/Other Polynesians 24
Nepalese 22
Timurids/Other Central Asia 21
 
Argentines 10
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 23
Berbers/Tuareg 18
Bulgarians/Romanians/Other Balkans 22
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 22 (21 + 1) -- Like the PNW, this region would be entirely new to Civ, and all the people clamoring for the Mississippians should recall that these confederacies came about in the wake of the Mississippian collapse. Like the Iroquois, the Southeastern confederacies rather adroitly carved a niche for themselves in the wake of colonial intrusion. Unfortunately, where the Iroquois collapsed on account of indecisiveness, the Southeastern confederacies collapsed from within when half-white leadership began compromising the best interests of their tribes for personal gain (at least, such was the case for the Creek and Cherokee). Still, while they lasted they were a considerable power to be reckoned with. Also +1 point for linguistic diversity, as I don't believe any Muskogean language has been featured in Civ before.
Etruscans 9
Gauls/Britons 20
Georgians 22
Gran Colombia/Other Colonial SA 14 (17 - 3) -- Bolivar notwithstanding, I think that if we must have another post-colonial civ Argentina makes more sense than Gran Colombia.
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW NA 26
Irish/Scottish 22
Khazars 19
Kushans/Bactrians 17
Lydians/Pontus/Other Anatolians 9
Maori/Other Polynesians 24
Nepalese 22
Timurids/Other Central Asia 21
 
Argentines 10
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) (23+1)=24 West African coast is an unrepresented area in the Civ franchise so far (Songhai/Mali don't count), Nigerian Benin is known for their bronzes (now sitting in a European museum), Dahomey for their "Amazons". They seem interesting enough for me.
Berbers/Tuareg 18
Bulgarians/Romanians/Other Balkans 22
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 22
Etruscans (9-3)=6 I don't think we understand the Etruscan language than well, and I wouldn't want the leader to speak Latin, plus info on their rulers are lacking.
Gauls/Britons 20
Georgians 22
Gran Colombia/Other Colonial SA 14
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW NA 26
Irish/Scottish 22
Khazars 19
Kushans/Bactrians 17
Lydians/Pontus/Other Anatolians 9
Maori/Other Polynesians 24
Nepalese 22
Timurids/Other Central Asia 21
 
Argentines 10
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 24
Berbers/Tuareg 18
Bulgarians/Romanians/Other Balkans 22
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 22
Etruscans 6-3=3 - We don't have much info about them, and there are better ways to represent Italy.
Gauls/Britons 20+1=21 - If Celts, pick some concrete tribe, like Gauls!
Georgians 22
Gran Colombia/Other Colonial SA 14
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW NA 26
Irish/Scottish 22
Khazars 19
Kushans/Bactrians 17
Lydians/Pontus/Other Anatolians 9
Maori/Other Polynesians 24
Nepalese 22
Timurids/Other Central Asia 21
 
Argentines 10
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 24
Berbers/Tuareg 18
Bulgarians/Romanians/Other Balkans 22
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 22
Etruscans 3-3=0 Nail in the coffin, I'm afraid.
Gauls/Britons 21+1=22 Vercingetorix!
Georgians 22
Gran Colombia/Other Colonial SA 14
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW NA 26
Irish/Scottish 22
Khazars 19
Kushans/Bactrians 17
Lydians/Pontus/Other Anatolians 9
Maori/Other Polynesians 24
Nepalese 22
Timurids/Other Central Asia 21
 
Argentines 10
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 24 + 1 = 25 As a lover of traditional African Empires, I would love to see the Benin Empire one day in the game.
Berbers/Tuareg 18
Bulgarians/Romanians/Other Balkans 22
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 22
Gauls/Britons 22
Georgians 22
Gran Colombia/Other Colonial SA 14 - 3 = 11 It lasted little time to be included and Argentina makes more sense.
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW NA 26
Irish/Scottish 22
Khazars 19
Kushans/Bactrians 17
Lydians/Pontus/Other Anatolians 9
Maori/Other Polynesians 24
Nepalese 22
Timurids/Other Central Asia 21
 
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Argentines 10
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 26 (25 + 1) A solid option for much needed African representation.
Berbers/Tuareg 18
Bulgarians/Romanians/Other Balkans 22
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 22
Gauls/Britons 19 (22 - 3) If there's going to be a civ from Civ V's Celtic umbrella, I think Irish/Scottish would be a better choice, as they overlap less with France and England.
Georgians 22
Gran Colombia/Other Colonial SA 11.
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW NA 26
Irish/Scottish 22
Khazars 19
Kushans/Bactrians 17
Lydians/Pontus/Other Anatolians 9
Maori/Other Polynesians 24
Nepalese 22
Timurids/Other Central Asia 21
 
Argentines 10
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 26
Berbers/Tuareg 18
Bulgarians/Romanians/Other Balkans 22
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 22
Gauls/Britons 20 (19 + 1) -- Specificity can help improve the appalling umbrella civs we've seen in previous iterations. I'm by no means opposed to Medieval Ireland, whose monastic and scholarly traditions were instrumental in preserving Western scholarship after the decline of Rome, but personally I'd rather see the Gauls. They no more overlap with France than Rome or our HRE-ish Germany do.
Georgians 22
Gran Colombia/Other Colonial SA 8 (11 - 3) -- If we must have another modern nation, Argentina at least makes more sense.
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW NA 26
Irish/Scottish 22
Khazars 19
Kushans/Bactrians 17
Lydians/Pontus/Other Anatolians 9
Maori/Other Polynesians 24
Nepalese 22
Timurids/Other Central Asia 21

ETA: A note on the Etruscans: I don't care to see them in game, but I do think we know enough to build a civ. Language would be the trickiest part: we know a fair amount, but certain details of the grammar--especially the verbal grammar--are quite elusive and our vocabulary is limited. I would like to see them as a city-state, though...
 
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