Never Before Seen Civs - Elimination Game

[Amrunril]

Argentines 18
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 21
Berbers/Tuareg 20
Bulgarians/Romanians/Other Balkans 21
Canadians 8
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 21
Cubans/Haitians/Other Caribbean 20
Etruscans 14
Gauls/Britons 22
Georgians 21
Gran Colombia/Other Colonial SA 20
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW NA 24
Irish/Scottish 21
Khazars 21
Kushans/Bactrians 17 (20 - 3) There are a lot of Central Asia options in this round, so I'm going to try to narrow them down a bit.
Lydians/Pontus/Other Anatolians 11
Maori/Other Polynesians 22 (21 +1) An unrepresented region and culture group, and Civ V's catch-all version had enough distinct "hooks" that I think a more focused version is easily workable.
Minoans/Mycenaeans 5
Nepalese 21
Timurids/Other Central Asia 20

 

[Manifold]

Why did you include my post? I didn't claim Minoa was Greek;...

You are right. I am sorry

 

[Siptah]

Argentines 18
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 21
Berbers/Tuareg 20
Bulgarians/Romanians/Other Balkans 21
Canadians 8
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 21
Cubans/Haitians/Other Caribbean 17 (20-3) I don't see much of a reason for that. The natives are not that interesting to me and the post colonial/colonial nations are, but not for a civ game.
Etruscans 14
Gauls/Britons 22
Georgians 21
Gran Colombia/Other Colonial SA 20
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW NA 24
Irish/Scottish 21
Khazars 21
Kushans/Bactrians 17
Lydians/Pontus/Other Anatolians 11
Maori/Other Polynesians 22
Minoans/Mycenaeans 5
Nepalese 21
Timurids/Other Central Asia 21 (20+1) Timur! Should be in the game when we reach 40+ civs.

 

[Manifold]

and here is my choice:

Argentines 18
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 21
Berbers/Tuareg 20
Bulgarians/Romanians/Other Balkans 21
Canadians 8
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 21
Cubans/Haitians/Other Caribbean 17
Etruscans 14
Gauls/Britons 19 (22-3) maybe second leader for France and England - not good but better than separate Civs
Georgians 21
Gran Colombia/Other Colonial SA 20
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW NA 24
Irish/Scottish 21
Khazars 21
Kushans/Bactrians 17
Lydians/Pontus/Other Anatolians 12 (11+1) Lydians = the inventors of money; Pontus = hard opponents of Rome; Other Anatolians = Hittites = the inventors of iron weapons and maybe religion
Maori/Other Polynesians 22
Minoans 5
Nepalese 21
Timurids/Other Central Asia 21

 

[Siptah]

Lydians/Pontus/Other Anatolians 12 (11+1) Lydians = the inventors of money; Pontus = hard opponents of Rome; Other Anatolians = Hittites = the inventors of iron weapons and maybe religion

The Hitties wouldn't be a new civ though, they were in civ III and in the returning civs elimination game. And 'inventors of religion,' you really think so? How come?

 

[Manifold]

The Hitties wouldn't be a new civ though, they were in civ III and in the returning civs elimination game. And 'inventors of religion,' you really think so? How come?

The background of Göbekli Tepe is very interesting. But that could be the new Civ of the Hattians or their successor the Hittites. They called themselves so.

 

[Siptah]

The background of Göbekli Tepe is very interesting. But that could be the new Civ of the Hattians or their successor the Hittites. They called themselves so.

You count Göbekli Tepe as directly related to the Hitties? In civ terms, that thing would probably be best represented as a natural wonder ;-)

 

[Manifold]

You count Göbekli Tepe as directly related to the Hitties? In civ terms, that thing would probably be best represented as a natural wonder ;-)

natural wonder ...because it is from a time 5000 years before the Civ game starts? Sound like Alpha Centauri

 

[Kimiimaro]

Argentines 18
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 21
Berbers/Tuareg 20
Bulgarians/Romanians/Other Balkans 21+1=22 - It would be interresting to add some other Balkan civ than Greece.
Canadians 8-3=5 - Why? We already have USA and Australia.
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 21
Cubans/Haitians/Other Caribbean 17
Etruscans 14
Gauls/Britons 19
Georgians 21
Gran Colombia/Other Colonial SA 20
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW NA 24
Irish/Scottish 21
Khazars 21
Kushans/Bactrians 17
Lydians/Pontus/Other Anatolians 12
Maori/Other Polynesians 22
Minoans 5
Nepalese 21
Timurids/Other Central Asia 21

 

[Xandinho]

Argentines 18
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 21 + 1 = 22 The Benin Empire would be a very nice addition, I just hope I do not see them represented by a Negerian civ.
Berbers/Tuareg 20
Bulgarians/Romanians/Other Balkans 22
Canadians 5
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 21
Cubans/Haitians/Other Caribbean 17
Etruscans 14
Gauls/Britons 19
Georgians 21
Gran Colombia/Other Colonial SA 20 - 3 = 17 I have no problems with post-colonial nations in the game. But I would think Gran Colombia a strange choice, they lasted so little time, is Simon Bolivar enough to justify their inclusion? Perhaps the current Colombia makes more sense. If one day I see them in the game, I would not cry or complain, but it would be a strange choice.
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW NA 24
Irish/Scottish 21
Khazars 21
Kushans/Bactrians 17
Lydians/Pontus/Other Anatolians 12
Maori/Other Polynesians 22
Minoans 5
Nepalese 21
Timurids/Other Central Asia 21

 

[ViterboKnight]

Argentines 18
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 22
Berbers/Tuareg 20
Bulgarians/Romanians/Other Balkans 22 - 3 = 19, for already too many civs from this region (greece, macedonia, and I hope Ottomans!!!)
Canadians 5
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 21
Cubans/Haitians/Other Caribbean 17
Etruscans 14 + 1 = 15, for I'm from there too!! They will rule!!!!
Gauls/Britons 19
Georgians 21
Gran Colombia/Other Colonial SA 17
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW NA 24
Irish/Scottish 21
Khazars 21
Kushans/Bactrians 17
Lydians/Pontus/Other Anatolians 12
Maori/Other Polynesians 22
Minoans 5
Nepalese 21
Timurids/Other Central Asia 21

 

[The Kingmaker]

Argentines 18
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 22
Berbers/Tuareg 20
Bulgarians/Romanians/Other Balkans 19
Canadians 5-3=2 Pretty low on my priorities list.
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 21
Cubans/Haitians/Other Caribbean 17
Etruscans 15
Gauls/Britons 19+1=20 Vercingetorix!
Georgians 21
Gran Colombia/Other Colonial SA 17
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW NA 24
Irish/Scottish 21
Khazars 21
Kushans/Bactrians 17
Lydians/Pontus/Other Anatolians 12
Maori/Other Polynesians 22
Minoans 5
Nepalese 21
Timurids/Other Central Asia 21

 

[Zaarin]

Argentines 18
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 22
Berbers/Tuareg 20
Bulgarians/Romanians/Other Balkans 19
Canadians ELIMINATED -- Goodbye, eh?
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 21
Cubans/Haitians/Other Caribbean 17
Etruscans 15
Gauls/Britons 20
Georgians 22 (21 + 1) -- King Tamar sends her regards.
Gran Colombia/Other Colonial SA 17
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW NA 24
Irish/Scottish 21
Khazars 21
Kushans/Bactrians 17
Lydians/Pontus/Other Anatolians 12
Maori/Other Polynesians 22
Minoans 5
Nepalese 21
Timurids/Other Central Asia 21

 

[marius_kaparius]

Why is Canada voted out so quickly each time? Would it really be that bad for them to be in? In order for them to be a civilization in the game they need:

1. A unique building or district
2. A unique unit
3. A leader that gave them some kind of advantage at one point in time - with enough personality for an agenda
4. An advantage they've had over all/most of their time
5. A city list with 40 entries.

Based on some of the design a civilization threads these can all be covered and some of the ideas suggested sound quite interesting. A lot of similar criticism for Canada was leveled at Australia but personally I really enjoyed the Appeal management aspects of Australia as it emphasized this aspect of the game in a different way.

Some of the ideas put forward for Canada have been around the management of forests, and unworked tiles that could be interesting. Unique trade mechanics along rivers have also been suggested. Civ 6 is very much a game about being out there on the map and I think a Canada civilization would be a good fit for its gameplay.

Ultimately if something gets into the game it needs to translate into an enjoyable game play experience. I think this needs to be weighed against things like historical importance and representation.

And no I'm not from Canada nor have I been there. Just putting this in for consideration when voting.

 

[Zaarin]

@marius_kaparius Well, I can't speak for anyone else, but if it were up to me there'd be no civs more recent than ~1600 (including the US). For the record, I'm not Canadian but I have been there and love it and wish I could move there. But that doesn't mean I want them as a civ... (However, had I been forced to choose between Australia and Canada, I definitely would have chosen Canada.)

 

[God of Kings]

@marius_kaparius

Playerbase is also used in consideration.

According to Steam, Canada has the third most Civ players in the world (as well as the most for a country not already represented as a playable civ).

Finally, Sid Meier (yes, the person whose name adorns the official name of our beloved video game series) was born in Sarnia, Ontario (across the river from Port Huron, MI). Therefore, if it weren't for a Canadian, we wouldn't be playing this game, despite him not being directly involved in the development of CiVI at all.

 

[Liufeng]

Argentines 18
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 22
Berbers/Tuareg 20
Bulgarians/Romanians/Other Balkans 19
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 21
Cubans/Haitians/Other Caribbean 17
Etruscans 15
Gauls/Britons 20
Georgians 22
Gran Colombia/Other Colonial SA 17
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW NA 24
Irish/Scottish 21
Khazars 21 + 1 = I really like this civ ! One of the only jewish civs outside Israel, and a powerful ally-enemy of the Byzantines !
Kushans/Bactrians 17
Lydians/Pontus/Other Anatolians 12
Maori/Other Polynesians 22
Minoans 5 - 3 = 2 No leader other than a legendary Minos, no language (and I bet Firaxis would add an archaic greek for them ...). They're too obscur.
Nepalese 21
Timurids/Other Central Asia 21

 

[Morningcalm]

Argentines 18
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 22 + 1 = 23 (Queen Idia please.)
Berbers/Tuareg 20
Bulgarians/Romanians/Other Balkans 19
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 21
Cubans/Haitians/Other Caribbean 17 - 3 = 14 (Simply not exciting).
Etruscans 15
Gauls/Britons 20
Georgians 22
Gran Colombia/Other Colonial SA 17
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW NA 24
Irish/Scottish 21
Khazars 22
Kushans/Bactrians 17
Lydians/Pontus/Other Anatolians 12
Maori/Other Polynesians 22
Minoans 2
Nepalese 21
Timurids/Other Central Asia 21

 

[Guandao]

Argentines 18
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 23
Berbers/Tuareg 20
Bulgarians/Romanians/Other Balkans 19
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 21
Cubans/Haitians/Other Caribbean 14
Etruscans 15
Gauls/Britons 20
Georgians 22
Gran Colombia/Other Colonial SA 17
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW NA 24
Irish/Scottish (21+1)=22 I wouldn't mind these two combined into a Gaels Civ. There's several good leader choices for them (including Robert the Bruce, and Brian Boru). Probably will eventually get downvoted for being European...
Khazars 22
Kushans/Bactrians 17
Lydians/Pontus/Other Anatolians 12
Maori/Other Polynesians 22
Minoans/Mycenaeans (2-3)=0 Once again, the Minoan language is undeciphered, and non-mythical historical leaders for both these civs are lacking.
Nepalese 21
Timurids/Other Central Asia 21

 

[Xandinho]

Argentines 18
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 23
Berbers/Tuareg 20
Bulgarians/Romanians/Other Balkans 19 + 1 = 20 Bulgarians were historical opponents of the Byzantines, would like to see them in the game.
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 21
Cubans/Haitians/Other Caribbean 14 - 3 = 11 I must confess that they do not appeal to me. Why would a modern Caribbean nation make more sense than Argentina, Canada or Mexico? I think the Arawak tribes are the only truly attractives and viable to represent the Caribbean.
Etruscans 15
Gauls/Britons 20
Georgians 22
Gran Colombia/Other Colonial SA 17
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW NA 24
Irish/Scottish 22
Khazars 22
Kushans/Bactrians 17
Lydians/Pontus/Other Anatolians 12
Maori/Other Polynesians 22
Nepalese 21
Timurids/Other Central Asia 21