Never Before Seen Civs - Elimination Game

[Siptah]

Armenians 6 (5+1) Georgia has 22 and Armenia 5? I hope that's just the Tamar effect.
Ashanti 21
Babylonians 20
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 17
Carthaginians 13
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 17
Ethiopians 20
Georgians 22
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW 14
Hebrews 15
Hittites 18
Incas 23
Iroquois 22
Italians 15
Khmer 22
Koreans 20
Malians 22
Maori/Other Polynesians 20
Mayans 22
Mongols 18
Ottoman Turks 18 (21-3) While significant and a major player for some time, I never found them interesting except for the early stages.
Portuguese 6
Siamese 11
Tibetans 15
Vietnamese 12

 

[Kimiimaro]

Armenians 6 (5+1) Georgia has 22 and Armenia 5? I hope that's just the Tamar effect.
Ashanti 21
Babylonians 20
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 17
Carthaginians 13
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 17
Ethiopians 20
Georgians 22
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW 14
Hebrews 15
Hittites 18
Incas 23
Iroquois 22
Italians 15
Khmer 22
Koreans 20
Malians 22
Maori/Other Polynesians 20
Mayans 23 (22+1) I still think this is the most important (which is of course a subjective evaluation) civ that has been left out and should thus be leading. The Inca are often overrated in popular history, they weren't as mighty an empire as many think and it didn't last (as an empire) that long. However, they should be added as well - and rightfully so! But after the Maya which I consider both the most important and impressive civ (by far) in the Americas.
Mongols 18
Ottoman Turks 21
Portuguese 6
Siamese 11
Tibetans 15
Vietnamese 12

Hem hem... Two upvotes.

 

[Siptah]

Hem hem... Two upvotes.

But one of them was marked red! How did you see through that?
Changed it.

 

[Amrunril]

Armenians 6
Ashanti 21
Babylonians 20
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 17
Carthaginians 13
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 17
Ethiopians 20
Georgians 22
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW 15 (14 + 1) The point of adding additional civs to the game is to add variety, and I think these groups would add more than any other option.
Hebrews 15
Hittites 18
Incas 23
Iroquois 22
Italians 15
Khmer 22
Koreans 20
Malians 22
Maori/Other Polynesians 20
Mayans 22
Mongols 18
Ottoman Turks 18
Portuguese 6
Siamese 8 (11 - 3) Since Siam was just in Civ V, I'd prefer to see Khmer and Vietnam this time around.
Tibetans 15
Vietnamese 12

 

[Xandinho]

Armenians 6
Ashanti 21
Babylonians 20
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 17
Carthaginians 13
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 17
Ethiopians 20 + 1 = 21 They are very interesting, and a civilization that should be a staple in the game.
Georgians 22
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW 15
Hebrews 15
Hittites 18
Incas 23
Iroquois 22
Italians 15 - 3 = 12 Why has the Netherlands already fallen and Portugal have so few points while Italy still have many points? I thought that the traditional European powers had more priority.
Khmer 22
Koreans 20
Malians 22
Maori/Other Polynesians 20
Mayans 22
Mongols 18
Ottoman Turks 18
Portuguese 6
Siamese 8
Tibetans 15
Vietnamese 12

 

[Zaarin]

Iroquois 21 + 1 = 22 Interesting native American civ with real leaders such as Joseph Brant, as well as real cities

NB that the Iroquois didn't actually have individual leaders, being led by a council; Joseph Brant was never the leader of the Iroquois but a war chief of the Mohawk. I wouldn't object to him--I'd consider him preferable to Hiawatha or Great Peacemaker--but Iroquois leadership isn't quite as clear cut as you suggest. Joseph Brant may also be viewed as a dubious choice because it was pro-British war chiefs like Brant and his pro-American counterparts like Skenandon of the Oneida who broke the Iroquois' 200+ year policy of playing the powers against each other and ultimately broke the League.

 

[Kimiimaro]

Dutch were eliminated before Portugal, what madness is this? I don't understand how is the second banana compared to Spain more needed than the return of William's fancy pants?

Armenians 6
Ashanti 21
Babylonians 20
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 17
Carthaginians 13
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 17
Ethiopians 21
Georgians 22
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW 15
Hebrews 15
Hittites 18
Incas 23
Iroquois 22
Italians 12
Khmer 22
Koreans 20
Malians 22
Maori/Other Polynesians 20
Mayans 22
Mongols 18
Ottoman Turks 18+1=19 - The Ottoman Empire below 20 is another madness!
Portuguese 6-3=3 - If Dutch had to go, you second banana compared to Spain will leave the table with them!
Siamese 8
Tibetans 15
Vietnamese 12

 

[luigilime]

Armenians 6
Ashanti 21
Babylonians 20
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 17
Carthaginians 13
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 17
Ethiopians 21
Georgians 22
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW 15
Hebrews 15
Hittites 18
Incas 23
Iroquois 22
Italians 12 all right Europe isn't a priority for now but I'm happy having it being the last European standing
Khmer 22
Koreans 20
Malians 22
Maori/Other Polynesians 20
Mayans 22
Mongols 18
Ottoman Turks 19
Portuguese 3-3=0 ELIMINATED bye bye Portugal
Siamese 8+1=9 how is Siam so low? I mean Khmer is nice but I definitely prefer Siam over them
Tibetans 15
Vietnamese 12

 

[Morningcalm]

Armenians 6
Ashanti 21
Babylonians 20
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 17
Carthaginians 13
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 17
Ethiopians 21
Georgians 22
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW 15
Hebrews 15
Hittites 18
Incas 23
Iroquois 22
Italians 12 - 3 = 9 (Not a priority when so many more interesting civs remain. European civs remaining on this list at this stage--just laughable.)
Khmer 22
Koreans 20
Malians 22
Maori/Other Polynesians 20 + 1 = 21 (These diverse and fascinating peoples would bring immense geographical diversity and culture to the game, especially given how few indigenous peoples of such areas are in the game at present.)
Mayans 22
Mongols 18
Ottoman Turks 19
Siamese 9
Tibetans 15
Vietnamese 12

 

[Guandao]

Armenians 6
Ashanti 21
Babylonians 20
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) (17+1)=18 I just find both Dahomey and Benin to be interesting pre-colonial states in West Africa. Either they or Ashanti are worthy to represent the West African coast.
Carthaginians 13
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 17
Ethiopians 21
Georgians 22
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW 15
Hebrews 15
Hittites 18
Incas 23
Iroquois 22
Italians 9
Khmer 22
Koreans 20
Malians 22
Maori/Other Polynesians 21
Mayans 22
Mongols 18
Ottoman Turks 19
Siamese 9
Tibetans 15
Vietnamese (12-3)=9 I've given my reasons before. I don't want a Vietnam war based Civ. Trung Sisters are unlikely to be made into Civ leaders, and I prefer an Indianized mainland SE Asian Civ like Khmer, Burma or Siam.

 

[The Kingmaker]

Armenians 6-3=3 Probably time for them to go.
Ashanti 21
Babylonians 20
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 18
Carthaginians 13
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 17
Ethiopians 21
Georgians 22
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW 15
Hebrews 15+1=16 I find the notion espoused on the last page that the Hebrews were always overshadowed by the Elamites and Philistines to be laughable. At least the Philistines were close rivals, but Elamites?
Hittites 18
Incas 23
Iroquois 22
Italians 9
Khmer 22
Koreans 20
Malians 22
Maori/Other Polynesians 21
Mayans 22
Mongols 18
Ottoman Turks 19
Siamese 9
Tibetans 15
Vietnamese 9

 

[Zaarin]

Armenians 3
Ashanti 21
Babylonians 20
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 18
Carthaginians 13
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 17
Ethiopians 21
Georgians 22
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW 15
Hebrews 16 -- Yeah, the Elamites were kind of on the opposite end of the region.
Hittites 18
Incas 23
Iroquois 22
Italians 9
Khmer 22
Koreans 21 (21 + 1) -- Korea should be considerably higher on this list.
Malians 22
Maori/Other Polynesians 21
Mayans 22
Mongols 18
Ottoman Turks 19
Siamese 9
Tibetans 15
Vietnamese 6 (9 - 3) -- I prefer Siam.

 

[Guatenadian]

Armenians 0 (3-3) ELIMINATED There's only room for one nation in the Caucasus in this elimination game.
Ashanti 21
Babylonians 20
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 18
Carthaginians 13
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 17
Ethiopians 21
Georgians 22
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW 16 (15+1) We need an Indigenous Civ in the PNW its a region that needs a Civ.
Hebrews 16
Hittites 18
Incas 23
Iroquois 22
Italians 9
Khmer 22
Koreans 21
Malians 22
Maori/Other Polynesians 21
Mayans 22
Mongols 18
Ottoman Turks 19
Siamese 9
Tibetans 15
Vietnamese 6

 

[Siptah]

Ashanti 21
Babylonians 20
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 18
Carthaginians 13
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 17
Ethiopians 21
Georgians 22
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW 16
Hebrews 13 (16-3) The Kingmaker is of course right, I meant to write Aram not Elam. And now I'll probably hear that Aram belongs to the Hebrew civ anyway...
Hittites 18
Incas 23
Iroquois 22
Italians 9
Khmer 22
Koreans 21
Malians 22
Maori/Other Polynesians 21
Mayans 23 (22+1) I tried to do it before: imho the most important and by a long shot the most impressive pre-columbian civ in the new world. I know the Inca are very popular and stylized as incredibly important by the popular history guys. But reading up on them teaches you their are important and definitely should be in the game - but their are not as powerful, long-lasting or impressive as they are often thought of. Maybe if they had less bad luck in history, this would have been different. Anyway: 1. Maya, 2. Inca
Mongols 18
Ottoman Turks 19
Siamese 9
Tibetans 15
Vietnamese 6

 

[conorbebe]

Ashanti 21
Babylonians 20
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 18
Carthaginians 13
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 17
Ethiopians 21
Georgians 22
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW 16
Hebrews 13
Hittites 18
Incas 23
Iroquois 22
Italians 9
Khmer 22
Koreans 21
Malians 22
Maori/Other Polynesians 22 (21 + 1) Deserving of more representation in the Civilization series.
Mayans 23
Mongols 18
Ottoman Turks 19
Siamese 9
Tibetans 15
Vietnamese 3 (6 - 3) Not my favourite pick for a SEA civ.

 

[Amrunril]

Ashanti 21
Babylonians 20
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 18
Carthaginians 13
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 17
Ethiopians 21
Georgians 19 (22 - 3) An interesting choice, but not on par with the Inca, Maya or Mongolia.
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW 16
Hebrews 13
Hittites 18
Incas 23
Iroquois 22
Italians 9
Khmer 22
Koreans 21
Malians 22
Maori/Other Polynesians 22
Mayans 23
Mongols 19 (18 + 1) Transforming within a single generation from disunified nomadic tribes to a continent-spanning empire is both impressive and distinct from any other civ.
Ottoman Turks 19
Siamese 9
Tibetans 15
Vietnamese 3

 

[Morningcalm]

Ashanti 21
Babylonians 20
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 18
Carthaginians 13
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 17
Ethiopians 21
Georgians 19
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW 16
Hebrews 13 + 1 = 14 (Should at least outlast the Italians. If ever there was a Civ for the Hebrews to make an entry, it would be VI, as it has a religious victory, and the Hebrews had a huge religious influence on the world, arguably more so than India, which is already in the game with a religious bonus. Furthermore, unlike with the Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW, we have well-attested leaders for this civ, namely Hezekiah and Salome Alexandra, both capable rulers who made Judah mighty.)
Hittites 18
Incas 23
Iroquois 22
Italians 9 - 3 = 6 (Waste of a slot, when so many other interesting and more diverse civs remain.)
Khmer 22
Koreans 21
Malians 22
Maori/Other Polynesians 22
Mayans 23
Mongols 19
Ottoman Turks 19
Siamese 9
Tibetans 15
Vietnamese 3

 

[luigilime]

Ashanti 21
Babylonians 20
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 18
Carthaginians 13
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 17
Ethiopians 21
Georgians 19
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW 16
Hebrews 13 + 1 = 14 (Should at least outlast the Italians. If ever there was a Civ for the Hebrews to make an entry, it would be VI, as it has a religious victory, and the Hebrews had a huge religious influence on the world, arguably more so than India, which is already in the game with a religious bonus. Furthermore, unlike with the Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW, we have well-attested leaders for this civ, namely Hezekiah and Salome Alexandra, both capable rulers who made Judah mighty.)
Hittites 18
Incas 23
Iroquois 22
Italians 9 - 3 = 6 (Waste of a slot, when so many other interesting and more diverse civs remain.)
Khmer 22
Koreans 21
Malians 22
Maori/Other Polynesians 22
Mayans 23
Mongols 19
Ottoman Turks 19
Siamese 9
Tibetans 15
Vietnamese 3

Wait a minute shouldn't there be a vote every 24 hours? You're just four hours early

 

[Siptah]

made Judah mighty

Spoiler :

I'm sorry to interrupt, my goal was not to go into such discussions anymore. But this is actually funny. I clicked on the link, and looked up the source. Thankfully, it's a book I remember reading quite well. You should do give it a try if you are interested in the minefield that is the history of ancient Israel. Concerning Hezekiah he gives quite good arguments, why he was stylized as a much greater King in later times than he actually was. But maybe the writer of the wikipedia entry didn't read the book and just found some random sentences in it?

 

[Xandinho]

Ashanti 21
Babylonians 20
Benin (Dahomey)/Benin (Nigeria) 18
Carthaginians 13
Creek/Muskogee/Other SE NA 17
Ethiopians 21
Georgians 19
Haida/Tlingit/Other PNW 16
Hebrews 14
Hittites 18 - 3 = 15 They're cool, but I'm not really interested in them right now.
Incas 23
Iroquois 22
Italians 6
Khmer 22
Koreans 21 + 1 = 22 I am very curious to see how they will be worked.
Malians 22
Maori/Other Polynesians 22
Mayans 23
Mongols 19
Ottoman Turks 19
Siamese 9
Tibetans 15
Vietnamese 3