Never Before Seen Civs - Elimination Game

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Sure. Corrected totals have been posted below.

Armenians 24
Ashanti 25
Burmese 22
Cherokee 16
Goths 14
Italians 1
Hebrews 16
Hungarians 10
Mississippians 11
Nubians 21
Phoenicians 25
Swahili/Kilwa 22
Tibetans 22
Vietnamese 21
Zimbabweans 22
 
Armenians 24
Ashanti 25
Burmese 22
Cherokee 16
Goths 14-3=11 Goths have a higher score than Italy? Blasphemy? Plus Ravenna is a Roman city, most of their cities probably belong to another Civ
Italians 1
Hebrews 16
Hungarians 10+1=11 I can't save Italy...So Hungary gets my vote, they have a unique history, being non-Indo-European in language
Mississippians 11
Nubians 21
Phoenicians 25
Swahili/Kilwa 22
Tibetans 22
Vietnamese 21
Zimbabweans 22
 
Armenians 24+1=25 Very interesting, old and turbulent history.
Ashanti 25
Burmese 22
Cherokee 16
Goths 11
Italians 1-3=0 There are too many city state worthy places in Italy for this Civ to work and as such, is eliminated.
Hebrews 16
Hungarians 11
Mississippians 11
Nubians 21
Phoenicians 25
Swahili/Kilwa 22
Tibetans 22
Vietnamese 21
Zimbabweans 22
 
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Damn, late to the party!

Armenians 25
Ashanti 25
Burmese 22
Cherokee 16
Goths 11
Hebrews 17 (16+1)
Hungarians 11
Mississippians 11
Nubians 21
Phoenicians 25
Swahili/Kilwa 22
Tibetans 22
Vietnamese 21
Zimbabweans 19 (22-3)

Israel's impact on the world? Massive. Deserve to be in game more than just a CS and a religion.
I'd rather see Swahili/Kilwa than Zimbabwe.
 
Armenians 23
Palmyrenes/Nabateans 0 - Eliminated. For reasons previously mentioned.
Didn't even take us three years this time.

Italians 1-3=0 There are too many city state worthy places in Italy for this Civ to work and as such, is eliminated.
Wouldn't "City State Worthiness" be placed below "Civ Worthiness" on the hierarchy of worthiness though? Not that it matter, poor pasta producers.

Armenians / Georgians 25
Ashanti 25
Burmese 22
Cherokee 16
Goths 8 I don't really feel it.
Hebrews 17
Hungarians 12 I'm going to stick up for Hungary here, I think they're pretty interesting
Mississippians 11
Nubians 21
Phoenicians 25
Swahili/Kilwa 22
Tibetans 22
Vietnamese 21
Zimbabweans 19
 
Armenians / Georgians 25
Ashanti 25
Burmese 22
Cherokee 16 + 1 [17] (Again, we need more Native American civs, and the Mississippians are too obscure to have entire dedicated civ.)
Goths 8 - 3 [5] (NO MORE EUROPEAN CIVS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE)
Hebrews 17
Hungarians 12
Mississippians 11
Nubians 21
Phoenicians 25
Swahili/Kilwa 22
Tibetans 22
Vietnamese 21
Zimbabweans 19
 
Armenians 25
Ashanti 25
Burmese 22
Cherokee 17
Goths 2 (5 - 3) Out of all European Barbarian civs, I believe they're the most important. Unfortunately, Europe is clustered as it is, so I must downvote them even though they interest me.
Hebrews 17
Hungarians 12
Mississippians 11
Nubians 21
Phoenicians 25
Swahili/Kilwa 22
Tibetans 23 (22 + 1) You should see the view from up here.
Vietnamese 21
Zimbabweans 19
 
Armenians 25
Ashanti 25
Burmese 22
Cherokee 17
Goths 2
Hebrews 17
Hungarians 12
Mississippians 11-3=8 Not enough info about them
Nubians 21
Phoenicians 25
Swahili/Kilwa 22
Tibetans 23+1=24 Awesome culture
Vietnamese 21
Zimbabweans 19
 
Armenians 25
Ashanti 25
Burmese 22
Cherokee 17
Goths 2 - 3 = ELIMINATED
Hebrews 17
Hungarians 12
Mississippians 8
Nubians 21
Phoenicians 25
Swahili/Kilwa 22 + 1 = 23
Tibetans 24
Vietnamese 21
Zimbabweans 19

Awesome the Goths may be, Europe is already crowded. Swahili is bumped up, because a mercantile East African civ looks interesting.
 
Armenians 25
Ashanti 25
Burmese 22
Cherokee 17
Hebrews 17
Hungarians 12 -3 = 9 (no more Europe!)
Mississippians 8
Nubians 21
Phoenicians 25
Swahili/Kilwa 23
Tibetans 24 +1 = 25 (Would add something original, with mountain boni, and depth to the region)
Vietnamese 21
Zimbabweans 19
 
Armenians 25
Ashanti 25
Burmese 22
Cherokee 17
Hebrews 17

Hungarians 9 - 3 = 6. Nothing against Hungary but gotta agree, no more Europe. A Magyar civ would be very interesting to play, but I really want to see some other cultures brought to life.
Mississippians 8 + 1 = 9. Fascinating civ, wide range of influence, and highly overlooked. This would be my first choice.
Nubians 21
Phoenicians 25
Swahili/Kilwa 23
Tibetans 25
Vietnamese 21

Zimbabweans 19
 
Armenians 22 25-3 I don't see the Armenians as a interesting Civ. Also everybody cries"No more Europe", but Armenians are Europe to.
Ashanti 25
Burmese 22
Cherokee 17
Hebrews 17
Hungarians 6
Mississippians 9
Nubians 22 = 21+1 Awesome People.
Phoenicians 25
Swahili/Kilwa 23
Tibetans 25
Vietnamese 21
Zimbabweans 19
 
Armenians 22
Ashanti 25
Burmese 22
Cherokee 17
Hebrews 17
Hungarians 6
Mississippians 9
Nubians 21 - 3 = 19
Phoenicians 25
Swahili/Kilwa 23
Tibetans 25
Vietnamese 21
Zimbabweans 19 + 1 = 20

Now it's getting hard ... African civs are truly lacking in the game, especially in the south, and Zimbabwe has a history of many centuries, unlike the Zulus who are just there because they made war against the british.
Nubia, it's not that I don't like them, but I'd prefer the others (except Mississipians, but I never downvote the same civ twice in a row)
 
Armenians 22
Ashanti 25
Burmese 22
Cherokee 17
Hebrews 17
Hungarians 6 + 1 = 7 Underrated.
Mississippians 9 - 3 = 6 Too obscure.
Nubians 19
Phoenicians 25
Swahili/Kilwa 23
Tibetans 25
Vietnamese 21
Zimbabweans 20
 
Armenians 22
Ashanti 25
Burmese 22
Cherokee 17
Hebrews 17
Hungarians 7 + 1 = 8 I feel that this civ deserves a greater recognition in the game than just a city-state. If Austria was already inside, why not Hungary?
Mississippians 6 - 3 = 3 Nothing against them, I do not get as much interest as the other civs on this list.

Nubians 19
Phoenicians 25
Swahili/Kilwa 23
Tibetans 25
Vietnamese 21
Zimbabweans 20
 
Armenians 22
Ashanti 25
Burmese 22
Cherokee 17
Hebrews 17
Hungarians 8
Mississippians 3-3=0 History too bleak and unknown.
Nubians 19+1=20 Underrated and overshadowed by Egypt, needs more attention.
Phoenicians 25
Swahili/Kilwa 23
Tibetans 25
Vietnamese 21
Zimbabweans 20
 
Armenians 22
Ashanti 25
Burmese 22
Cherokee 17
Hebrews 17
Hungarians 8 + 1 = 9 (I think Hungarians are long overdue in Civ roster. There is enough European civs, but they deserve to be represented one day.)
Nubians 20
Phoenicians 25 - 3 = 22 (I'm sorry, they are the most city-state nation ever. Other than that, other civs look more appealing to me at this moment.)
Swahili/Kilwa 23
Tibetans 25
Vietnamese 21
Zimbabweans 20
 
Armenians 22
Ashanti 25
Burmese 22
Cherokee 17
Hebrews 17+1=18 Perhaps the most overdue civ out of this whole list. If any civ has come close to winning a religious victory in real life, it would be them. Two major world religions with heavy influence on a third.
Hungarians 9-3=6 There are other European civs I'd rather see first, but I dont even want to see them either until Firaxis tidies up Africa, Asia and America.
Nubians 20
Phoenicians 22
Swahili/Kilwa 23
Tibetans 25
Vietnamese 21
Zimbabweans 20
 
Armenians 22
Ashanti 25
Burmese 22
Cherokee 14 (17 - 3) -- As others have stated, there are better options. The independent invention of Native literacy is impressive, but otherwise their major accomplishments are essentially assimilating into American culture (under rather coercive policies of half-Native leaders who exploited their economic and educational advantages at the expense of their people, I might add)--and got the Trail of Tears in the end as a reward for their efforts. A Muskogean tribe would be a much better representative of the Southeast.
Hebrews 18
Hungarians 7 (6 +1) -- I don't want to see them tomorrow, but I'd still love to see them. The fact that Europe is overcrowded now doesn't mean I don't want more European civs once the rest of the world is better represented...
Nubians 20
Phoenicians 22
Swahili/Kilwa 23
Tibetans 25
Vietnamese 21
Zimbabweans 20
 
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