would u give me a list of your several small mods
even if I don't know the case, it's something I can reference
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even if I don't know the case, it's something I can reference
LucidAPs
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Have you figure out which one? I am having the same problem, this is my active mod list:
Spoiler :
I will do more testing and get back.
I created an account just to say that I have the same growth issue and it has nothing to do with 3rd party mods because I have none installed. It just doesn't seem to happen every time so I think even if the bug affects you, you could get lucky and not encounter it during a game. For me it happened in my first game immediately after founding my capital (had -65k food), and in my second game it happened suddenly to two of my cities on turn 200+ (but I think it had happened to Russia earlier in that game because their capital never grew past 3 population). By the way, that second time it sometimes overflowed from -2 million or something negative food to some hundreds of thousands of positive food.
ridjack
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I saw a similar thing being reported on the sub-Reddit.
https://www.reddit.com/r/civvoxpopu...negative_food_surplus_for_ai_latest_beta_420/
https://www.reddit.com/r/civvoxpopu...negative_food_surplus_for_ai_latest_beta_420/
HungryForFood
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Do you have the save game from when you encounter the bug? Since you play without mods, I can easily load it up and debug it.
I've touched the citizen food consumption part of the DLL recently, so perhaps something went wrong there.
Omen of Peace
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Side remark: I looked up
Global - No Followup From Cities (v4)
since I didn't know it, and you don't need it with VP - it's already included.
Global - No Followup From Cities (v4)
since I didn't know it, and you don't need it with VP - it's already included.
FaarmAnimal
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For plants, the exclusivity is part one of a rethink on what those buildings are supposed to do. So think!
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Is the documentation for these buildings currently accurate?
Why do they need a rethink? Surely the only logical purpose is a production boost.
As for exclusivity, why bother? coal plants are already not included.
If there is a concern that cities will have too much production you could have the second most valuable plant only produce 50% of its potential and the third produce 25% etc. That will discourage building multiple plants in one city, with no need for exclusivity.
Because, if they’re production only, they either need to be insanely powerful to recoup investment or they're worthless. And allowing them to stack at that power trivializes late game production.
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Playing the new patch as Spain (I want to keep pushing on the high early growth to see how the system handles it). As of Turn 136, happiness is in what I consider a solid place.
I have 7 cities and I've had to pay the happiness piper, but in a good way. The thing is that the Global Penalty hurts, but it REALLY hurts when you lay that on top of local penalties. Its quite easy to have a -45% growth, and -30% military production, and at that point in the game that is hard to ignore.
Funny enough I am finding the new system simplier yet more engaging at the same time. There are two levers now, Global and Local, but I find them very concrete and easy to understand. In some ways Global is my expansion indicator, if I can get it high enough I get to expand again (at least as Spain where I want to go wide).
Meanwhile, I play the local city minigame. Right now for example I have 80% global happiness, but I have a few cities that have a -2 or -3 unhappiness which I am trying to address. So I can feel "good" about my happiness overall, but still not ignore it.
I have 7 cities and I've had to pay the happiness piper, but in a good way. The thing is that the Global Penalty hurts, but it REALLY hurts when you lay that on top of local penalties. Its quite easy to have a -45% growth, and -30% military production, and at that point in the game that is hard to ignore.
Funny enough I am finding the new system simplier yet more engaging at the same time. There are two levers now, Global and Local, but I find them very concrete and easy to understand. In some ways Global is my expansion indicator, if I can get it high enough I get to expand again (at least as Spain where I want to go wide).
Meanwhile, I play the local city minigame. Right now for example I have 80% global happiness, but I have a few cities that have a -2 or -3 unhappiness which I am trying to address. So I can feel "good" about my happiness overall, but still not ignore it.
What if power plants were your new gardens, increasing GPP?
Throwing this idea out there, though it might be a little radical. What if building on the coast gave -1 urbanization, or -1 urbanization for every 3 coast tiles adjacent (so complete island is -2)?
The gameplay reason is because costal or island cities often make good guild cities because of the food prevalence, but suffer on the hammers, which hurts their ability right now to support specialists unhappiness. The coastal bonus just gives them a little push on that.
Flavor wise I'm not sure, you could argue that islands are always hungry for specialists because its harder for them to receive those services
The gameplay reason is because costal or island cities often make good guild cities because of the food prevalence, but suffer on the hammers, which hurts their ability right now to support specialists unhappiness. The coastal bonus just gives them a little push on that.
Flavor wise I'm not sure, you could argue that islands are always hungry for specialists because its harder for them to receive those services
bigcat88
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I think bug already was found here:
https://github.com/LoneGazebo/Community-Patch-DLL/issues/5315
Just need to wait some time and be patient.
Ah, Ok, I haven't been following the situation closely as I have been out for most of today. Nice to know that there has already been progress
Id love to hear the answer to your pathfinding question as I have the same question and haven't seen it answered yet.
Uploading a hotfix, recompiled the DLL and fixed one small merge issue. Resolves the two persistent issues, I believe.
Link: https://mega.nz/#!eAMjiIRB!jNLkKe473Eqw3ALxNWOYimZILH89519LcPXfwCGgnHA
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Link: https://mega.nz/#!eAMjiIRB!jNLkKe473Eqw3ALxNWOYimZILH89519LcPXfwCGgnHA
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ManoloZero
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as you already now, there is no relation with 3 party mods as i tought :/
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