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New Beta Version - April 20th (4-20)

Discussion in 'Community Patch Project' started by Gazebo, Apr 20, 2019.

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  1. JamesNinelives

    JamesNinelives Chieftain

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    > Ironclad - CS bumped by 5

    I see no-one has commented on this yet. With cruisers now at range 1 as well, beware the wrath of coal-eating ships! :p
     
  2. andersw

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    Getting better lux -> gold trade deals over all and extremely good ones with indonesia, 10gpt +some flat is far more than I'm used to.
     
  3. randomnub

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    This made bullying really clunky. In the situation below with two tiles of rough terrain in between me and Antwerp I have 0 military next to the CS (moving one spearman on the NE plains puts him into range finally). I like the idea of using pathfinding and be unable to bully through small bodies of water but the old 6 tiles distance could be improved a bit, else I can foresee not being able to physically fit enough units in the bully range later on.

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  4. Dolen

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    There's something weird going on right now, with AI capitals whose leader chose non-Tradition policy are stuck at 1 pop.
    Perhaps, this has something to do with what others have reported here about starving cities.
     
  5. randomnub

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    re: bullying

    I'm getting mixed results in some quick tests.

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    In this situation the last spearman move put him into bullying range, when he's 7 tiles (and 6 turns) away from Antananarivo. Maybe it counts embarked pathfinding as well? I didn't research fishing yet though.
     
  6. Stalker0

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    I reported it on GitHub
     
  7. Gazebo

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    Are you on the hotfix?

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    Did a quick game on King to get a feel for the version. Communitas, default settings. I did play as Khmer for Vox Populi, who I think are a little overtuned. They made the Tourism victory too easy, but they were not my main problems with the patch. Firstly, the AI is just too passive. Once I got diplomatic vision of the other continent, I could see Atilla with a massive army neglecting to kill Ethiopia despite being easily able to. Rome attacked me several times, concluding with me taking two of his cities, one of them his capital. I annexed Rome and puppeted Cumae - I had settled 4 cities myself this game. Later I puppeted a Carthaginian city. I faced zero happiness issues the entire game, and happiness was in fact a non-issue despite growing all my cities as hard as possible. I feel the new system is far too generous and basically defeats the point of happiness altogether.

    As I was pushing my tourism to dominate everyone, all the AI, even neighbouring Incas with military superiority, happily traded with me. Open borders, favorable deals, everything. The turn before I became influential over him, Pachahuti gave me a luxury resource for free. The AI would continue to raise no resistance to my cultural domination - I only ever got in one war after I conquered Rome, which was Atilla declaring war on Rome to take some of his terrible one-tile island cities. After this he ended up peacing out with me, not trying an invasion, the turn before I completed Citizen Earth. Rome was able to declare independence for the last 50-60 turns of the game, and had a reasonably strong army to do so with - if they had pushed their advantage, it would have slowed me down. Similarly, the Incas were always in a position they could attack from, being largely technologicaly matched and their army outsizing mine. But nothing ever happened. No-one tried to stop my victory - they didn't even try to embargo me, or stop giving me open borders. King may not be intended to be a herculean challenge to beat, but I do think it used to be much harder a year or two ago. That may be my rose-tinted glasses speaking, but I distinctly remember being barred by nukes by warmongers the moment I started threatening a victory.

    The new happiness system, despite being too lenient, is still a fantastic upgrade that's so superior to the old one it's amazing. Fantastic update, just needs to be a little more rough. Difficulty 5 is supposed to correspond to 6 or 7 in vanilla, but the AI just didn't put up a fight whatsoever. Bring on the AI agressiveness!
     
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  9. FaarmAnimal

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    Seems it is a straightforward balance issue resolved by increasing the cost of late game buildings and units.
     
  10. Gazebo

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    Nope.
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  11. Gazebo

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    One game is not a strong enough sample. Sometimes the AI fights amongst themselves a bit more and ignores humans.

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  12. FaarmAnimal

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    Could you expand?

    If late game costs are much higher and plants become an essential then doesn't this solve half the problem? (please don't reply with nope lol)
     
  13. Txurce

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    If you'll look back in Gazebo's earlier posts, you'll see that he has something else in mind as yet unspecified for these buildings.
     
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  14. FaarmAnimal

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    Since you didn't bother to tell me what that was I looked through his posts and I am no wiser.

    Thanks anyway
     
  15. Txurce

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    Actually, I did tell you: something "as yet unspecified." But since that didn't work for you, here is the actual post:

    I think Gazebo is open to ideas, but has some of his own.
     
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  16. FaarmAnimal

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    Seems like someone is trying to pick a fight lol

    No thanks
     
  17. andersw

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    Colonialism(imperialsm tree) doesnt provide the supposed happiness bonus (4/mono) from monopolies, I've posted on Github but write here for other players.
     
  18. nOxr

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    I am on the hotfix and still have a problem with AI capitals with pop 1.
     
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    Is the food bug fixed?
     

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