That's a good point - Civ 5 actually looks like the exception rather than the rule in some regards: it looks like the expansions for 3 and 4 were out within about a year of release, same with Civ: BE. And X-Com 2 was a year and a half, which would be about March for Civ 6. Those look to all have consistent design teams at the helm, while for 5, if Schafer left and they had to go back to the drawing board, that could've knocked the expansion back.
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That's a good point - Civ 5 actually looks like the exception rather than the rule in some regards: it looks like the expansions for 3 and 4 were out within about a year of release, same with Civ: BE. And X-Com 2 was a year and a half, which would be about March for Civ 6. Those look to all have consistent design teams at the helm, while for 5, if Schafer left and they had to go back to the drawing board, that could've knocked the expansion back.
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I smell expansion! Although most of us, including me, might be wrong.
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Not sure I can get excited about an expansion already when I was hoping they'd still work on the vanilla game.
Particularly the late-game improvements, if they're all expansion stuff and the vanilla is left as it is, that's going to be a big let-down in my eyes.
Particularly the late-game improvements, if they're all expansion stuff and the vanilla is left as it is, that's going to be a big let-down in my eyes.
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My guess is expansion, with a pre-order perk to try to encourage sales during the holiday season.
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GH = Great Heroes
It better be huge.
It better be huge.
SteamDB has a depot called GH since some months and we have no clue what it means. Could be the expansion.Giants are huge. Gods are too?
Sorry for asking, but where is the G** & H*** thing coming from? I read this thread twice, but it seems like I still have missed something.
Why would they keep providing free updates to vanilla? They're not a charity
Why would people buy their next product if the AI is broken?
AI was 'broken' in civ V and BE as well and still people bought civ VI.
I disagree on broken by the way. That word is way overused to describe things, usually very inappropriately.
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1. It's not completely "broken".
2. It's still a lot more fun than every other strategy game, even in its
present incomplete form.
If the annoouncement turns out not to be about an expansion, they have been a bit careless in lifting up expectations. Surely they know that this big announcement nods to an expansion?
I have faith in Firaxis and I sure look forward to next tuesday!
I have faith in Firaxis and I sure look forward to next tuesday!
If the annoouncement turns out not to be about an expansion, they have been a bit careless in lifting up expectations. Surely they know that this big announcement nods to an expansion?
I have faith in Firaxis and I sure look forward to next tuesday!
I'd say it would either need to be an expansion, or a spin-off (mobile/console) Revolutions-type game to justify this level of announcement. Obviously the latter would go down like a lead balloon in this particular forum now we've got the scent of a hypothetical expansion, but from a marketing point of view it would warrant this kind of teasing.
That said I don't think a Civ Rev ever came out in the middle of a main series game's release cycle before - CivRev 1 came out between IV and V and CivRev2 between V and VI. So this would be unusual.
I just don't want to get my hopes up for an expansion that's still 8 months away...
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Why would they keep providing free updates to vanilla? They're not a charity
At least to me, there's a feeling that Civ6 was released a bit incomplete. The game plays fine up to a point, then it becomes pretty boring and lacking action. I've read these Firaxis quotes where they (or Ed) have acknowledged this themselves and talked about adding things to the late-game and I've thought "good, they've recognized that the game needs a bit more work". Now, if these additions that I, for one, consider essential to the vanilla game, are put into an expansion only, that feels like a money-grab to me. Basically, making an expansion out of stuff that should have been in the vanilla game already.
There's that, too. If a) the possible expansion adds stuff without improving the AI - because that's holding the game down so much that improving it would be better than any additional content - and b) if the expansion adds stuff I thought should be in the vanilla game, I won't be buying it. Doesn't matter what I buy, I hate rewarding below-par products.
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I agree that it was released early. But then some of us would have bought it if
it was at the stick-figure stage.
stealth_nsk
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The funny thing is - AI is broken only in the eyes of fans, most of whom will buy the game anyway.
For the rest of the players (including hardcore player, since hardcore =/= fan) are totally ok with Civ5 and Civ6 AI.
These things don't affect gameplay. But real bugs are. The resent big bugs in both 2 latest patches could be quite harmful. I may find myself delaying buying the expansion due to this situation.
That's how they do usually, backporting bug fixes and AI improvements to vanilla mechanisms, and that's why, even if it can be (very) frustrating sometimes time, I accept to buy an incomplete product, waiting for them to finish it : I know that they will finish it.Why would they keep providing free updates to vanilla? They're not a charity
The day they stop providing what you call "free updates" to an incomplete product, is the day they lose me as a customer.
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A new CivRev for the new consoles would be intriguing, in a way; however the artistic style of this Wheel of Time is rather close to that of Civ VI: the same dashed line at the edge of the map, the same-ish old parchment/paper look, and the style of the drawings is somewhat reminiscent of the original illustrations of Jules Verne books. The absence of any sound is odd, though.
Anyway, it seems to have much to do with Civ VI. If it is an expansion, and it looks like one, I hope it will enliven the mid-late game and give the tech tree, diplomacy and general balance quite a shake-up.
Anyway, it seems to have much to do with Civ VI. If it is an expansion, and it looks like one, I hope it will enliven the mid-late game and give the tech tree, diplomacy and general balance quite a shake-up.
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