ParadigmShifter
Random Nonsense Generator
Yeah, I suppose so. Or War Chariots/Immortals. It's just - "Build a road (8 turns)" that annoys me.
EDIT: No, it's only 6 turns. Wahey!
EDIT: No, it's only 6 turns. Wahey!
New! Elite Quattromasters Challenge
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That is a concern but it is difficult to include everyone without the divisions. I am sure people will evolve ways to be clear which QM, etc. they have completed.
Of course, we are open to suggestions for better names.
ParadigmShifter
Random Nonsense Generator
Lactose-Intolerance (No-cheese) Master?
Although I expect Tiny will be the new duel and Rome, Persia or Egypt the new Inca.
Although I expect Tiny will be the new duel and Rome, Persia or Egypt the new Inca.
The-Hawk
Old Original Geezer
I agree the end result is best... don't want to exclude anyone who made the effort to go for Quattro under the rules at the time.
ParadigmShifter said:
The loss of Inca and the ancient start requirement are massive for Deity warmongering. You may be right though... I suspect we'll see some Deity,Tiny, Praet games to fill deity requirements.
The-Hawk
Old Original Geezer
I've got a question on mechanics.
Under the new rules, I've lost my ice age start above Monarch. My question is this... if I do an ice age start at emperor level, but play BtS using a BtS-unique leader, would it count as my ice age start for vanilla-warlords rankings? Or, do I need to play a vanilla-warlords game to have it count in that ranking?
Under the new rules, I've lost my ice age start above Monarch. My question is this... if I do an ice age start at emperor level, but play BtS using a BtS-unique leader, would it count as my ice age start for vanilla-warlords rankings? Or, do I need to play a vanilla-warlords game to have it count in that ranking?
BLubmuz
HoF Quattromaster
No comments (for now), just a question:
If i complete all the VC at, say Noble level, i'll be an EQM for Noble and also for Warlord, Chieftain and Settler?
Why do you consider HC so terrible? Out of a duel map he's a good leader, but surely not the stronger.
If i complete all the VC at, say Noble level, i'll be an EQM for Noble and also for Warlord, Chieftain and Settler?
Why do you consider HC so terrible? Out of a duel map he's a good leader, but surely not the stronger.
Duelingground
AKA Gandalftheredskin
Good question.
As I'm understanding things, any V-W games count for the All Expansions QM, but not vice versa? So, you could play as a V-W civ with a BTS leader/game, and still have it count for V-W QM?
Anyhow, kudos to the HoF team for the new formats, should get a lot more people submitting HoF games.
Will there be a frontpage announcement of this?
No. You would just be considered an EQM Noble. In other words, you would have moved up the ranks in EQM.
For now he'll stay removed, as he was one of the items discussed in the cheese thread.
Rock of Ages feels wrong. I need to play 12 games which cannot count for anything else no matter which leader, map, game speed, or victory condition.
Was there anything wrong with allowing other starting eras except for Future? maybe Modern had some abuse, but I'm not sure about that.
Was there anything wrong with allowing other starting eras except for Future? maybe Modern had some abuse, but I'm not sure about that.
Praetorians are your friends
I think the War Charriots can outrun the Praetorians. However, I see where these challenge may lead to...the future Ultimate Quattromasters Challenge where both Egypt and Roman will also be excluded.
For purposes of bragging rights Methos is correct, but you will still show up on the lower levels.
Sorry, Methos.
I wanted to only have players show up at their highest rank but I didn't want to take the performance hit that would required to display the results that way. (ie. take a minute or more to display the list at Settler.) There are techniques I could have used to work around that but it would have taken much longer to get the challenge ready.
In order to keep the V+W QM "pure" for those that don't own BTS, that is the only way to do it. I thought about having a "BTS Only" Division instead of "All Expansions". We can still change it.
Probably but we should probably wait a couple days to let you HOF veterns help us build a good FAQ before we entice in more players. (Tranlation: I was too tired to think about it last night and now I am too afraid.
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In combination with Ancient starts, HC is just too powerful. The strategy is well documented.
Sticking to just Ancient starts for the existing events made the most sense to maximize quality. That did kind of left the other Eras out of the equation, so adding the RoA seemed to balance things out.
Requiring some games that are unique from the other events seems like a good thing. If you want to be Elite you have to work a little harder.
Sorry, but that was a misunderstanding, we never intended to do it that way. Though, I suspect that most will fulfull the regular QM in the course of the EQM without really trying. Making it a requirement is just too performance intensive for the displaying the lists. (Yes, I know that there are ways, but why bother...)
I think the War Charriots can outrun the Praetorians. However, I see where these challenge may lead to...the future Ultimate Quattromasters Challenge where both Egypt and Roman will also be excluded.
Well, I'll use Cyrus and Darius for those nice Immortals then
Requiring some games that are unique from the other events seems like a good thing. If you want to be Elite you have to work a little harder.
I don't mind working a little harder, but there is no incentive for me, for example, to play the current major gauntlet. If I'm gonna waste time on Lakes, Conquest, Diety, Standard, quick. It better count for my Lakes map, a Conquest Victory(which I typically avoid), Leader, quick, etc. Doing a Modern start makes it 10 times harder because of the space race, but this game won't count? Pass.
Like I said it just feels wrong to not be able to knock off a few categories at once. Except for Future space races, I don't see the need for this confusion/frustration.
shyuhe
Deity
The current major is useful for improving your Gauntlet QScore though. It's not often that you get a deity gauntlet (last one was what, a cultural one?).
I do agree with Moonsinger though that eliminating HC, while useful, will divert players to war chariots + praets.
I do agree with Moonsinger though that eliminating HC, while useful, will divert players to war chariots + praets.
I've got two 72 scores already so unless I play raging barbs, I can't boost my Qscore even if I get the #1 spot. Still, I'd play if it counted for Lakes and Conquest.
