New Expansion Speculation Thread

[agonistes]

Often it's an assumption made by someone with zero familiarity with the codebase. That's the problem here.

I don't want to drag this out, which is why I stopped replying in the first place. You don't understand software development, that's fine. But don't attribute to laziness what can be attributed to a regular AA / AAA release cycle. I'm not defending the nature of the cycle (it's too short, imo, developers are often overworked, the job market is very volatile, etc), but there isn't anything that the developers can do to magically do more in their working day. You want to assume that it's laziness? That's on you.

Where did I mention laziness? Can you point it out?

Please don't attribute something to my post that wasn't there.

But since you mention it... why not attribute something to laziness when it can be attributed to a regular release cycle? Are you actually suggesting that simply because one possibility exists the other cannot? And then suggesting that not only do I disagree with that notion, but because I do I can't possibly understand software development?

Okay, you win. No way am I going to argue with that.

Let's hope the devs set aside some more days for playtesting.

 

[L4Psha]

I don't think that this "good" RNG will work well. Profit will be to good to ignore, to small to even bother or best case don't cost management. As you said - to difficult to balance. On paper maybe it looks good, but i doubt that it will in game.
There is also anither "bad" RNG feature in game - strategic resources. Is it bad& I don't think so. Game is about overcoming obstacles and problems with instruments you have in your hands. And if you can forsee all problems for thousands of ahead will it even be a problem? I think game will just become boring if everything can be under control.

 

[Rup]

I hope a teasing tweet today <3

I don't have high hope but I wish....
No way so close to Switch release.
Still liked for optimism.

 

[AssemblingTyphoon]

Someone on reddit claiming to be a Hungarian translator is saying that the Vesuvius Leaders are as follows: Mansa Musa, Arpad, Simon Bolivar, Atahualpa, Tāwhiao, Roxelana, Arawrahta, Midgegooroo, Eleanor.

If true then the new Civilizations would breakdown like this:

Mali - Mansa Musa
Hungary - Arpad
Colombia - Simon Bolivar
Inca - Atahualpa
Maori - Tāwhiao
Ottomans -Roxelana
Burma - Anawrahta
Noongar - Midgegooroo
England or France - Eleanor

 

[Rup]

RNG mechanics like Random events have certain pros and cons to it, which has been mentioned in this thread 100s of times.
But no matter which side of the coin you are on, mechanics like optional Random events will not be used by many CIV VI gamers.

RNG mechanics are and were always a part of 4X gaming.It is just about the implementation and fun elements of the feature.Also something like that will be implemented if Firaxis think it is worth it to invest resources in a feature that will not be used by a lot of the gamers.

 

[SammyKhalifa]

If that's made up, it's an interesting list and had some thought put into it

 

[Rup]

Smoke branch updated again 4 mins ago.

 

[Zdarg]

Ottomans -Roxelana

Go Russians!..

 

[anandus]

Someone on reddit claiming to be a Hungarian translator is saying that the Vesuvius Leaders are as follows: Mansa Musa, Arpad, Simon Bolivar, Atahualpa, Tāwhiao, Roxelana, Arawrahta, Midgegooroo, Eleanor.

If true then the new Civilizations would breakdown like this:

Mali - Mansa Musa
Hungary - Arpad
Colombia - Simon Bolivar
Inca - Atahualpa
Maori - Tāwhiao
Ottomans -Roxelana
Burma - Anawrahta
Noongar - Midgegooroo
England or France - Eleanor

Don't know if it's a hoax or not, but if it isn't kudos for thinking up (to me) obscure leaders.
(All except Mansa, Bolivar and Eleanor)

 

[Xandinho]

Someone on reddit claiming to be a Hungarian translator is saying that the Vesuvius Leaders are as follows: Mansa Musa, Arpad, Simon Bolivar, Atahualpa, Tāwhiao, Roxelana, Arawrahta, Midgegooroo, Eleanor.

If true then the new Civilizations would breakdown like this:

Mali - Mansa Musa
Hungary - Arpad
Colombia - Simon Bolivar
Inca - Atahualpa
Maori - Tāwhiao
Ottomans -Roxelana
Burma - Anawrahta
Noongar - Midgegooroo
England or France - Eleanor

Two South American civilizations and and two Oceanian civilizations in the same expansion is quite unlikely. And this is little eurocentric by Firaxis pattern.

 

[anandus]

Two South American civilizations and and two Oceanian civilizations in the same expansion is quite unlikely. And this is little eurocentric by Firaxis pattern.

Not sure what you mean. Too eurocentric or not eurocentric enough?

 

[Xandinho]

Not sure what you mean. Too eurocentric or not eurocentric enough?

Only two European leaders do not seem likely, imo.

 

[Wielki Hegemon]

I don't think that this "good" RNG will work well. Profit will be to good to ignore, to small to even bother or best case don't cost management. As you said - to difficult to balance. On paper maybe it looks good, but i doubt that it will in game.
There is also anither "bad" RNG feature in game - strategic resources. Is it bad& I don't think so. Game is about overcoming obstacles and problems with instruments you have in your hands. And if you can forsee all problems for thousands of ahead will it even be a problem? I think game will just become boring if everything can be under control.

Ok. An argument with strategic resources is legit for me. More. This is core RNG mechanic of the game - > random map generating. (even random barbarian camps are kinda part of it).
And yes RNG is a factor helping to spice up the game. But you must be very careful with spices you know
The question is. Do we want random disasters as I described in a bad RNG to be part of it?
I see way more cons than pros.
But you know. Maybe I am just prejudiced against the idea.

 

[Zdarg]

I'd think we could use additional challenge. Game isn't particularly difficult now.

 

[AmazonQueen]

Someone on reddit claiming to be a Hungarian translator is saying that the Vesuvius Leaders are as follows: Mansa Musa, Arpad, Simon Bolivar, Atahualpa, Tāwhiao, Roxelana, Arawrahta, Midgegooroo, Eleanor.

If true then the new Civilizations would breakdown like this:

Mali - Mansa Musa
Hungary - Arpad
Colombia - Simon Bolivar
Inca - Atahualpa
Maori - Tāwhiao
Ottomans -Roxelana
Burma - Anawrahta
Noongar - Midgegooroo
England or France - Eleanor

I find the list a little unlikely, Maori and Noongar, 2 South American civs, Roxelana as Ottoman leader, Eleanor as leader of France or England.
Still if true I wouldn't be devastated. Some interesting choices and not too many extra European civs.
I do wish Firaxis would stick to women who actually ruled, rather than just famous.

 

[Leyrann]

Only two European leaders do not seem likely, imo.

R&F had just the Netherlands and Scotland (and arguably Georgia, but even if it's in Europe (which it isn't, I believe; iirc it's Asia) it would certainly not count as Euro-centric.

 

[SammyKhalifa]

I find the list a little unlikely, Maori and Noongar, 2 South American civs, Roxelana as Ottoman leader, Eleanor as leader of France or England.
Still if true I wouldn't be devastated. Some interesting choices and not too many extra European civs.
I do wish Firaxis would stick to women who actually ruled, rather than just famous.

To be fair Mapuche civ on a list like this would have been found unlikely too.

 

[AmazonQueen]

To be fair Mapuche civ on a list like this would have been found unlikely too.

True but its also the geographical spread. At least its not half a dozen more Europeans for an already crowded Europe but South America and SE Asia are getting a lot of representation, North America and Africa none extra.

 

[Cerilis]

My add to the others, I don't think they would add Burma if Vietnam is so high on the demands^^

 

[Wielki Hegemon]

Someone on reddit claiming to be a Hungarian translator is saying that the Vesuvius Leaders are as follows: Mansa Musa, Arpad, Simon Bolivar, Atahualpa, Tāwhiao, Roxelana, Arawrahta, Midgegooroo, Eleanor.

If true then the new Civilizations would breakdown like this:

Mali - Mansa Musa
Hungary - Arpad
Colombia - Simon Bolivar
Inca - Atahualpa
Maori - Tāwhiao
Ottomans -Roxelana
Burma - Anawrahta
Noongar - Midgegooroo
England or France - Eleanor

This set is so crazy that actually might be true