New film version of Dune to be made :)

[warpus]

That's an interesting question. Without code, to what extent are digital systems possible? And is there code without computation?

As with any religious commandment, there is enough vagueness there for interpretation. The way most of human society seems to have embraced these regulations is to allow.. let's say a simple device that takes you pressing a button and opens the doors or lowers the loading bay doors, or whatever. But if you need to process data in some way and compute it, then they don't do that and rely on Mentants for tasks like that.

So it's not really that you can't have 'code'. Simple logic gates are probably okay.

 

[aelf]

I just Googled and apparently people today do associate logic gates with computation and calculation so

Maybe Herbert just wasn't too familiar with this area.

 

[r16]

soul and spirit of the times . Which needs to be respected or something years after . Has anyone seen pictures of Jane Fonda as Barbarella ? Spectacular weapons she has ... People say 1965 , Herbert was defined as a guy who didn't know anything about computers in some other website ı saw , stuff stuff ... Had doing drugs become fashionable in that exact period ? Where they did things with slide rules and pencils in contact with paper but mostly brains and like nobody will ever manage to replace the B-52 , just saying ...

 

[warpus]

I just Googled and apparently people today do associate logic gates with computation and calculation so

Maybe Herbert just wasn't too familiar with this area.

They are associated with those things because logic gates are the foundation that silicon chips and computers are built on.

The commandment is to not create a machine in the likeness of a human. Not "don't compute anything using a machine". That's simply where the line ended up being drawn - simple electronic devices are okay, but as soon as you need to build something to process data in bulk, you don't go there. So.. "Press this button and it will make you toast" or "press this button and the engines start" or "press this button and talk to your security chief" is okay, but "Build a machine that can analyze the soil samples and report on its composition" is out.

 

[Birdjaguar]

soul and spirit of the times . Which needs to be respected or something years after . Has anyone seen pictures of Jane Fonda as Barbarella ? Spectacular weapons she has ... People say 1965 , Herbert was defined as a guy who didn't know anything about computers in some other website ı saw , stuff stuff ... Had doing drugs become fashionable in that exact period ? Where they did things with slide rules and pencils in contact with paper but mostly brains and like nobody will ever manage to replace the B-52 , just saying ...

Dune was written in 1963-64 and published as a serial first then a book in 1965. Drug use didn't hit mainstream America until late 1966 and 1967.

In 1964 IBM introduced its 360 model main frame and the first use of integrated circuits rather than individual transistors. American Airlines introduced the world's first computerized reservation system. Businesses were converting main frame computers which were getting small enough to fit into normal sized rooms. The 1964 World's Fair in NYC had a whole building dedicated to the new Information Age. In 1964 most folks thought of computers like we think of super AI now: "Sounds pretty cool I wonder what it will really be like? Let's make up stuff and pretend we know."

"Thomas Kurtz and John Kemeny create BASIC (Beginner’s All-purpose Symbolic Instruction Code), an easy-to-learn programming language, for their students at Dartmouth College who had no prior programming experience."

Barbarella was a great movie!

 

[Bugfatty300]

"Diet pills" were definitely a thing in his time.

 

[Kyriakos]

"Diet pills" were definitely a thing in his time.

Welcome back

 

[r16]

it must be even 1980s and young r16 might or might not have heard a famous film would be on TV . Or maybe it was a chance encounter ... Anyhow , some dark night thing . Guards escorting some box , but where are its wheels ? Medieval sorcery ? Is it a steam era stuff ? Considering the king or whatever he is . And his attire ... Uh , what the hell is that ?

with such a brain , why would anyone need an Al ?