[NFP] New Frontier Pass Screenshot Analysis Thread

[Casworon]

One thing i'm curious about. If meteorite showers add iron. Are they going to reduce the amount of iron that spawns naturally? Or are we just going to have much more iron on the map going forward

 

[Datgingah]

One thing i'm curious about. If meteorite showers add iron. Are they going to reduce the amount of iron that spawns naturally? Or are we just going to have much more iron on the map going forward

I think if they give a one time yield of iron (maybe randomly between 20 and 40 or something) then it can still be fairly done. This way a normal supply is needed, but others can still access iron units as desired.

 

[Casworon]

I think if they give a one time yield of iron (maybe randomly between 20 and 40 or something) then it can still be fairly done. This was a normal supply is needed, but others can still access iron units as desired.

Ahhh i didn't even consider they could by limited iron supplies that run out. Would be a really cool mechanic if that's the case

 

[Zaarin]

Fun Fact: Bees were not native to the Americas, they were imported by Europeans.

Are you sure about that? I'm positive I read about the Aztecs keeping bees.

Bamboo please with Vietnam.

Bamboo has a gazillion different uses--but it's also so prolific that it's an invasive weed in much of the US.

Plantation is a good gues i think. Honey means also wax. It was really luxury during middle ages because candles were made from bee wax.

Beeswax or tallow, but the beeswax smoked considerably less, making them highly desirable.

Honey is one of the most concentrated sources of Food Value available naturally. It also has medicinal/antiseptic qualities, and was recommended for treatment of wounds since at least Classical times.
And, of course, honey can be fermented into Mead, so the Resource potentially could have Amenity, Food, Scientific, and Health (anti-Plague?) benefits.

About the only thing it cannot do is stop meteorites . . .

Create a deep enough pool of honey and maybe the meteorite will just sink into it.

 

[Casworon]

Honey is one of the most concentrated sources of Food Value available naturally. It also has medicinal/antiseptic qualities, and was recommended for treatment of wounds since at least Classical times.
And, of course, honey can be fermented into Mead, so the Resource potentially could have Amenity, Food, Scientific, and Health (anti-Plague?) benefits.

About the only thing it cannot do is stop meteorites . . .

It's also really good in Tea. Seriously though i am very happy they are adding it as a resource. I'm expecting it to be a luxury because of all the applications it's had throughout history

 

[pokiehl]

Are you sure about that. I'm positive I read about the Aztecs keeping bees.

You are correct. The notion that bees didn't arrive in the Americas until European colonists was disproven a little while ago:

https://ucanr.edu/blogs/blogcore/postdetail.cfm?postnum=1544

Additionally, you are spot on about pre-Columbian use of honey:

Beekeeping—providing a safe residence for bees in order to exploit them—is an ancient technology in both the Old and New Worlds. The oldest known Old World beehives are from Tel Rehov, in what is today Israel, about 900 B.C.E.; the oldest known in the Americas is from the Late Preclassic or Protoclassic period Maya site of Nakum, in the Yucatán peninsula of Mexico, between 300 B.C.E.–200/250 C.E.

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

You are correct. The notion that bees didn't arrive in the Americas until European colonists was disproven a little while ago:

https://ucanr.edu/blogs/blogcore/postdetail.cfm?postnum=1544

Additionally, you are spot on about pre-Columbian use of honey.

I believe the type of bee used in contemporary beekeeping is of European extraction, but that doesn't mean the practice arrived with them.

 

[Jeppetto]

The screenshot has a counter/bucket attached to Renown so whether it's kills or something else, I'm really curious what happens when that bucket gets filled.

He gets 5$ coupon to Walmart

 

[Jeppetto]

I'd assume it was Camps since it comes from beehives which are made by animals and you learn to deal with animals at animal husbandry.
If not that I'd go with plantation because it looks like it will be a new luxury and so far farms haven't been able to be built on one yet. .

I imagine some rough grumpy hunter with rifle coming out of his tent at dawn, knowing the challenges of the day. He must go out there and hunt, because otherwise this would be third day without any honey to feed his family. But will he return safely? Would this not be the day he finally falls to the aggresive and territorial bees that took much better hunters than him?

 

[Jeppetto]

I can see it now. Georgian soothsayers are walking around my empire, throwing meteors down onto my cities and chanting: “Hear me and rejoice! You have had the privilege of being saved by the Great Queen. You may think this is suffering. No... it is salvation. The universal scales tip toward balance because of your sacrifice. Smile... for even in death, you have become children of Tamar.”

Then Tamar smiles evilly at you: ,,Should've built the damned walls."

 

[Josephias]

I imagine some rough grumpy hunter with rifle coming out of his tent at dawn, knowing the challenges of the day. He must go out there and hunt, because otherwise this would be third day without any honey to feed his family. But will he return safely? Would this not be the day he finally falls to the aggresive and territorial bees that took much better hunters than him?

But i'm still on the camp side. Just replace the rifle with that smoke-thingy beekepers use, and he can be still the rough grumpy type... maybe a bit softer than the hunter, but even the hunter is softer than the grumpy man that has to leash his pigs to go into the woods for some pine fungus.

 

[AriochIV]

Since all the improvements are functionally identical... what difference does it make?

 

[Datgingah]

Since all the improvements are functionally identical... what difference does it make?

Biggest thing I’d say is pantheons. Another plantation will add your power that pantheon has, and further weakens others. Second biggest is base yields of improvements and how they change over the tech tree.

 

[AvianBritish]

Biggest thing I’d say is pantheons. Another plantation will add your power that pantheon has, and further weakens others. Second biggest is base yields of improvements and how they change over the tech tree.

I wish they split plantations into food and non-food plantations; because I don't know why Feudalism and Scientific Theory give you more food for your silk, cotton and dyes (and even tobacco?). I know it's fore balance but I'm don't want to eat fabric! And I don't think the others are cotton candy or food colouring either.

Otherwise the honey looks promising; I would imagine that's in a planation though because of the layout of the trees comapred to citrus in the game currently.

As for this idea of "Corn" possbility... do you think this could be improved corn?

it looks large and square like a farm; but it's 3D when wheat and rice farms currently are flat 2D models with either yellow or blue colours to tell them apart from regular farms with no resource on them.

That screenshot is in the top right of the developer update video at 2:33 btw if no one noticed it. (if someone did notice it and spot it btw, sorry for not seeing your post before.)

 

[Zaarin]

I don't know why Feudalism and Scientific Theory give you more food for your silk

Silk worms are a delicacy in East Asia, especially Korea. They import them from China.

 

[AvianBritish]

I just noticed in the same frame of that image I posted above, bellow it off to the very very edge of it is another new thing I don't think anyone posted here yet:

It looks like "Cactus" to me?

 

[AvianBritish]

More images! Seems to be the same as the first one but a bit closer off to the bottom left at 2:36.

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

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More images! Seems to be the same as the first one but a bit closer off to the bottom left at 2:36.

Those are what we're calling 'maize' or corn.

 

[Uberfrog]

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More images! Seems to be the same as the first one but a bit closer off to the bottom left at 2:36.

This is the image where it really looks like corn. You can see the yellow cobs, and they even seem to have the tendril-like flowers on top.

 

[AvianBritish]

Ah! I see on the 1st and 4th pages someone spotted those bits in the video....

...HOWEVER! No one spotted these unimproved versions of corn (possibly) in the background of the meteor shower picture!