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[Samson]

Turkey’s protests over Istanbul mayor grow into ‘fight about democracy’ (according to the Grundiad)

The arrest of the mayor of Turkey’s largest city in a dawn raid last week was a watershed moment in the country’s prolonged shift away from democracy. Opponents of president Recep Tayyip Erdoğan fear it is a move to sideline the sole challenger capable of defeating him in upcoming elections, expected before 2028.

İmamoğlu and more than 100 other people including municipal officials and the head of the mayor’s construction firm were served detention orders and accused of embezzlement and corruption – charges the mayor denies. He also denies terrorism charges levelled at him over collaboration with a leftwing political coalition prior to local elections last year, which saw major losses for Erdoğan’s Justice and Development party (AKP).

Within days, what began as protests in response to İmamoğlu’s detention has grown into something more. “This is bigger than İmamoğlu. It’s about a fight for democracy, law and equal rights,” said Azra as demonstrators massed around her.

Supporters of the mayor said 300,000 people joined the demonstration in Istanbul on Friday night, while video showed protesters taking to the streets and clashing with the police in major towns and cities across the country. Turkish interior minister Ali Yerlikaya said 343 people were detained across nine cities after taking part in demonstrations.

Turkish authorities ratcheted up their attempts to quell the growing protests, including blocking traffic across two bridges leading to city hall in Istanbul and locking down several thoroughfares nearby with lines of riot police.

 

[r16]

no , they are not the same person . This one is reported to have the flag combined with the portrait of Atatürk on his back . The flag and the guy is very much hated in New Turkey . They are giving out candies to seperatists , flags and all , marching for the Nevruz thing ...

had a better one on twitter but Musk is closing down Opposition accounts and pushing forward messages by Muharrem lnce , the PM's opponent in 2018 . His single campaign promise worth noting was that he would stay in the main building of the Voting institution thing and would fight against election fraud with 5000 thousand lawyers . He didn't . This is how controlled opposition works ; why would he ever want to be the Prrsident anyhow ? No , have no twitter , the echo chamber had the link . The Party is probably short of 100% in control tonight , so , the echo chamber is slow . Either because the entire internet is slow or the echo chamber follows its true master , the Party ...

two days or so ago , a lot of people in the streets were laughing at me . Bunlara salak desen nedense alınıp şikayet ederler/if you were to call them idiots they somehow would be offended and complain about it . Luckily America daily shows how people in echo chambers are not capable of discovering that they are in echo chambers . Guess they are imagining this is some other plot run by yours idiotly to defeat the invincible New Turkey . They might have come to realize their invincible New Turkey is not so invincible as soon as there are 10 people or 10 000 people willing to test just how much invincible New Turkey is . Give them a week and they will think they scared down 10 million untermenschen by their mighty existance .

yeah , these are the good days . As soon as the Gulf Arabs are convinced that they stole enough , they will push for a civil war in this country . Everybody will then learn how powerful , how matchless , how truly spectacular and truly awe inspiring they have ever and always have been . Taşları bağlayıp itleri salmışlar , atıp tutuyorlar/they have tied down the stones and released the dogs , bragging and claiming ... When the authority of the State ends thus the respect for the laws and tradition , what people are doing is perfectly capable of happening to the people .

Spoiler :

now that Boeing has won with the F-47 and one of these days will be forced to claim ı am sabotaging them , ı think the last time the streets laughed at me with the same intensity was ı think in February . Couldn't tell who was supposedly in the country . The Hungarian p_rnstar or some Ukranian p_rnstar ? Mariya from Ukraine ı have never seen , but it appears the usual round of Americans on the ground have asserted that "they are not the same person" . As they are very interested in the early F-40s going into production , it is clear this is a Western European blonde , presumably French . They have also declared ı have had 8 affairs , though no clear lists of just who . They are kinda sorta interested to take the city-as-an-echo-chamber into more interesting pastures now that there would be a lot of angry and unhappy people if they were to proclaim any links between me and any sort of success in real life . Yeah , you will need to be in real life intelligence to understand that if people can manage to send the lady into places where people stare , it must also be true that the US Military will be hurt badly enough in order not to interfere in stuff like civil war in this country .

it is an echo chamber , everything is a lie .

edit: Somehow echo chamber links the tweet thing again . Must have been a problem with my connection

Spoiler :

https://twitter.com/x/status/1903412853962379547

 

[SemiLazyGamer]

Twitter suspends opposition accounts.

Musk’s X suspends opposition accounts in Turkey amid civil unrest

Suspensions affect accounts spreading information about the widespread demonstrations.

www.politico.eu

 

[Samson]

Millions of Turkish voters back ousted Istanbul mayor in opposition primary

Some 15 million people voted in Sunday's primary to choose a presidential candidate for Turkey's opposition CHP party, said the vote's organisers, Istanbul City Hall.

"Out of 15 million votes, 13,211,000 (non-party members) expressed their solidarity" with Ekrem Imamogu, the imprisoned opposition figure now suspended as Istanbul's mayor.

Observers said it was the looming primary that triggered the move against Imamoglu, widely seen as the only politician capable of challenging President Recep Tayyip Erdogan.

Throughout the day, voters flocked to ballot boxes in 81 cities after the CHP opened up the poll beyond its 1.7 million party members to anyone who wanted to participate.

People turned out in such large numbers that voting was extended by an extra three-and-a-half hours.

 

[r16]

it is presumably the reason why this message from twitter was on the echo chamber yesterday .

https://twitter.com/x/status/1903879657755230507

probably the reason why some popstar posted stuff against the thing , too , it is reasonably safe enough .

 

[r16]

stuff

Spoiler :

the antagonism of the last two days are clearly due to the F-47 . Imagining some American diplomat from the office of the Colonial Governor in Ankara dropped by to ask when New Turkey was going to sign as the first export customer ... This is something you will definitely need the context for , but ı know only one single "entity" , like who happens to be me , talking about about some 6th gen stuff , like before the thing happened or whatever . Can't be the diplomat but the industrial expert or whatever that forcefully hinted that there are those in the "Defence" that use the word "the Turks" for something rather specific . When Ankara talks , on this matter , everybody knows , it is English words . Trying to buy Eurofighters this country doesn't need except for buying support from Europe , F-16Vs this country doesn't need most clearly had the F-24G been rushed , F-35s on the basis of over my dead body and it wasn't that funny a joke even in 2009s in case you had ever heard of the Turks , Tempest the artillery spotter in due course . Here comes Trump's man and they are telling him ... F-35 is bestest , with BAe having a share of 13 to 15% of the programme .

the thing definitely was written with the US situation in mind . We DON'T have a round hundred million dollars to spend on lobbying in the Capitol Hill . We will not bother explaining how can we dare ask America's best . It delves into areas the US industry is not using for its own needs . It makes no impact on anything . Very happy with the limitations it does have . Still better than the F-35 afterall . Very aware of the problems that emanates from making it the President's plane . For those unaware the toned down versions , the 10% things , would put the F-47 combat radius at 2000 kilometers unrefueled , with Ankara-Moscow being less than 1800 . Less a thousand miles is good . Either we are peaceful neighbours with Russia or Russia is utterly destroyed by the EU . See , no need . New Turkey can buy whatever it wants , right ?

or we do stuff and go full spec Russian way with something like it . Anyone trying to press his luck ?

as for the country , it is rewind time . As New Turkey is once again shocked by the appearance that "White Turks" can dare defying it , the late mother of the PM is insulted a la Gezi Events/Taksim Riots , some Mosque is supposedly defiled by protestors again , internet people provoke the other side with curses again , police violence again , down to beating a civilian clad policeman . The kid who invented the "Everything will be better" slogan in 2019 that was made the centerpiece of the Imamoğlu campaign is now 20 ; he has been arrested in demonstrations . New Turkey loves to think it has the best arguments ever .

with the Star Wars angle , too . This soft spoken movie director or whatever that always calls for dialogue suddenly starts insulting the Party faithful , the A-K-P voters . Calling for the execution of Order 66 on the lesser classes . You can understand the Party is not very happy ; after the smirks that arises from the claims that the PM broke TV remote by throwing it on the wall ...



yeah , see New Turkey actually lying here . The director might have really cursed or not , ı don't know . But Order 66 most definitely is not the case where two hostile sides live together . And one side suddenly and simultaneously attacks different ethnic groups and common people who do not share the worldview and kills everyone with stabbing them in the back . The evil Kemalists out to kill innocent Kurds who are voting for the Party this time . And innocent Muslims ! This is what the famed Golden Generation of the Congregation was supposed to do . To stab back the "Kemalist officers" at the height of some trouble . Was really on the cards after 2003 or whatever . Until the US got into serious trouble with Iran in Iraq and Israel roughly handled by Hizbullah in the 2006 war . Cheney real unhappy it didn't happen that way , too . Like there are people who know the Star Wars lore , right ? Civil War deferred , the Ergenekon Conspiracies in the end . No , New Turkey does not have Clones or stuff .

the most horrible thing is of course the boycotts . The center piece of Gazze demonstrations was a call for the boycott of Starbucks . Turns out the Islamists were launching a coffeeshop chain of their own . The pro-Party voters can be fed with anything , they have to just get by so that they will be forever voting for the Party in return for tablescraps . The affluent classes still have money and money laundering needs the looks of wildly successful enterprises , hence the very people who will donate to Jihadists have very strong desires to set up shops and provide the services to kind of people whom the Jihadists will behead for fun . A lot of talk about the illegality of boycotts from the Goverment if you believe the echo chamber .


though a most excited wait in the internet scene is set up for today to see the leader of the almost racists is declared dead or not . Not seen for almost two months , AI blamed for his phone talks with people . Officially he had heart surgery , fell down in his hospital room , broke some bones , recovering . Not really convincing considering the past years when he arrived to vote in some elections after reportedly having got beaten on PM's orders . No pictures and nobody has visited him . There are also those who think he is hiding in case the deal with seperatists blow up . Again .

 

[Birdjaguar]

Turkish court orders Erdogan rival jailed and pending trial on corruption charges as protests grow
A court has formally arrested the mayor of Istanbul and President Recep Tayyip Erdogan’s

ASSOCIATED PRESS

ISTANBUL — Hundreds of thousands of opposition supporters gathered outside Istanbul city hall Sunday night to protest the arrest of the city’s mayor, a key rival to Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan.

Earlier Sunday, a court formally arrested Mayor Ekrem Imamoglu and ordered him jailed pending the outcome of a trial on corruption charges. His detention Wednesday morning sparked the largest wave of street demonstrations in Turkey in more than a decade, with large crowds gathering outside city hall for the fifth night in a row. It also deepened concerns over democracy and rule of law in Turkey. His imprisonment is widely regarded as a political move to remove a major contender from the next presidential race, currently scheduled for 2028. Government officials reject the accusations and insist that Turkey’s courts operate independently. “If you weren’t here today, if you hadn’t rushed here since the first day, if you had yielded to tear gas and barricades, if you had gotten scared and remained at home, then today a caretaker appointed by Tayyip Erdogan would be residing here in this building,” said Ozgur Ozel Sunday night, pointing at city hall as he spoke to the massive crowd chanting anti-government slogans. Ozel is the head of the Republican People’s Party, or CHP, to which Imamoglu belongs.

Suspicion of running criminal organization

The prosecutor’s office said the court decided to jail Imamoglu on suspicion of running a criminal organization, accepting bribes, extortion, illegally recording personal data and bid-rigging. A request for him to be imprisoned on terror-related charges was rejected although he still faces prosecution. Following the court’s ruling, Imamoglu was transferred to Silivri prison, west of Istanbul.

The Interior Ministry later announced that Imamoglu had been suspended from duty as a “temporary measure.” The municipality had previously appointed an acting mayor from its governing council.

Alongside Imamoglu, 47 other people were also jailed pending trial, including a key aide and two district mayors from Istanbul, one of whom was replaced with a government appointee. A further 44 suspects were released under judicial control. Interior Minister Ali Yerlikaya said Sunday that 323 people were detained the previous evening over disturbances at protests. Largely peaceful protests across Turkey have seen hundreds of thousands come out in support of Imamoglu. However, there has been some violence, with police deploying water cannons, tear gas, pepper spray and firing plastic pellets at protesters in Istanbul, Ankara and Izmir, some of whom hurled stones, fireworks and other missiles at riot police.

A primary to endorse Imamoglu

The formal arrest came as more than 1.7 million members of the opposition CHP began holding a primary presidential election to endorse Imamoglu, the sole candidate. The party has also set up symbolic ballot boxes nationwide to allow people who are not party members to express their support for the mayor. Large crowds gathered early Sunday to cast a “solidarity ballot.” “This is no longer just a problem of the Republican People’s Party, but a problem of Turkish democracy,” Fusun Erben, 69, said at a polling station in Istanbul’s Kadikoy district. “We do not accept our rights being so easily usurped. We will fight until the end.”

A protester sprays fire against riot policemen during a protest after Istanbul’s Mayor Ekrem Imamoglu was arrested and sent to prison, in Istanbul, Turkey on Sunday. HUSEYIN ALDEMIR/ASSOCIATED PRESS

Speaking at a polling station in Bodrum, western Turkey, engineer Mehmet Dayanc, 38, said he feared that “in the end we’ll be like Russia, a country without an opposition, where only a single man participates in elections.” At the time of Sunday night’s protest, the vote count had reached around 15 million people, of which around a little over 13 million were from non-party members voting in solidarity. In a post on social media, Imamoglu praised the result from Silivri Prison, writing that the people had told Erdogan “enough is enough.” “That ballot box will arrive, and the nation will deliver a slap to the administration it will never forget.”

Domestic and international supporters slam the court’s action

“Honestly, we are embarrassed in the name of our legal system,” Ankara Mayor Mansur Yavas, a fellow member of Imamoglu’s CHP, told reporters after casting his vote, criticizing the lack of confidentiality in the proceedings. CHP leader Ozgur Ozel said Imamoglu’s imprisonment was reminiscent of “Italian mafia methods.” Speaking at Istanbul City Hall, he added: “Imamoglu is on the one hand in prison and on the other hand on the way to the presidency.” The Council of Europe, which focuses on promoting human rights and democracy, slammed the decision and demanded Imamoglu’s immediate release. The German government called the mayor’s imprisonment “a serious setback for democracy in Turkey,” adding that “political competition must not be conducted with courts and prisons.”

Imamoglu’s long history of criminal cases

Before his detention, Imamoglu had already faced multiple criminal cases that could result in prison sentences and a political ban. He was also appealing a 2022 conviction for insulting members of Turkey’s Supreme Electoral Council. Earlier in the week, a university nullified his diploma, citing alleged irregularities in his transfer from a private university in northern Cyprus some 30 years ago. The decision effectively bars him from running for president, since the position requires candidates to be university graduates. Imamoglu had vowed to challenge the decision.

 

[Broken_Erika]

Thousands turn out for Turkey protests after more than 1,400 arrests​

Thousands of people in Turkey have turned out for a seventh night of protests which have so far seen more than 1,400 people detained, including students, journalists and lawyers.

The nightly unrest began last Wednesday when the city's Mayor Ekrem Imamoglu - who is seen as the President Recep Tayyip Erdogan's main political rival - was arrested on corruption charges.

Rights groups and the UN have condemned the arrests and the use of force by police on the protesters.

Imamoglu said the allegations against him were politically motivated, a claim the Turkish president has denied.

Speaking to a group of young people at a Ramadan fast-breaking meal in Ankara on Tuesday, President Erdogan urged patience and common sense amid what he described as "very sensitive days."

He added that people who want "to turn this country into a place of chaos have nowhere to go", and the path protesters have taken is "a dead end".

On Tuesday evening, thousands of students from many universities in Istanbul met in Maçka Park and then marched towards Şişli.

Authorities in Istanbul banned protests and closed some roads "in order to maintain public order" and "prevent any provocative actions that may occur".

As students marched through the Nisantasi district they chanted "government, resign!" and waved flags and banners as they were watched by a large deployment of riot police.

Many students had their faces covered with scarves or masks, and acknowledged they feared being identified by the police.

Turkey's main opposition party, the Republican People's Party (CHP), said that Tuesday's rally outside Istanbul's City Hall would be its last in a run of nightly gatherings - and that it is planning a rally in the city on Saturday.

"Are you ready for a big rally in a large square in Istanbul on Saturday?" Ozgur Ozel told crowds.

"To support Imamoglu, to object to his arrest, to object to the detention of each of our mayors. To demand transparent, open, live broadcast trials, to say that we have had enough and we want early elections."

Since last Wednesday, Turkey's interior minister said 1,418 protesters have been detained following the days of demonstrations that the government has deemed "illegal."

Posting on social media Ali Yerlikaya wrote: "While there are currently 979 suspects in custody, 478 people will be brought to court today.

"No concessions will be made to those who attempt to terrorise the streets, to attack our national and moral values, and to our police officers."

Elsewhere on Tuesday, seven journalists appeared in court including AFP news agency photographer Yasin Akgül who had been covering the demonstrations.

AFP chairman Fabrice Fries has written a letter addressed to the Turkish presidency urging Erdogan to "intervene" in Akgul's imprisonment which he described as "unacceptable".

"Yasin Akgül was not part of the protest," Fries said. "As a journalist, he was covering one of the many demonstrations that have been organized in the country since Wednesday 19 March.

"He has taken exactly 187 photographs since the start of the protests, each one a witness to his work as a journalist."

In Washington, Secretary of State Marco Rubio voiced "concerns" following a meeting with Turkish Foreign Minister Hakan Fidan, the US State Department said in a statement.

Imamoglu was one of more than 100 people detained last week as part of an investigation. Others arrested included politicians, journalists and businessmen.

His arrest does not prevent his candidacy or election as president, but he will not be able to run if he is convicted of any of the charges against him.

The opposition mayor is seen as one of the most formidable rivals of Erdogan, who has held office in Turkey for 22 years as both prime minister and president.

Erdogan's term in office is due to expire in 2028, and under the current rules, he cannot stand again – but he could call an early election or try to change the constitution to allow him to remain in power for longer.

Turkey's Ministry of Justice has criticised those connecting Erdogan to the arrests, and insisted on its judicial independence.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ckgz58rz3k8o

 

[r16]

it is baklava time . Bought some chestnuts . Some random amount . Doubled it because ı know some of them will be unfit . It has become the tradition to hose them with water to increase profits and stuff , weighing heavier on the scales , even if chestnut is like supposed to be dry and stuff . The seller , respectful in tone , still filled the bag from one corner of the bed of the pickup truck , many of them already blackened by the rot and with that ı mean totally blackened outer shell . Some other guy , basically heavily surprised , like because of reputation of so many affairs and designing the T-65 , looked on with disbelief at the thing . Only for his benefit , all the chestnuts were cracked . And there was only one single chesnut , that filled the shell . This , for those who like allusions and stuff , is New Turkey .

https://twitter.com/x/status/1905164804303831478

pikachu running from the police .

 

[Ordnael]

^Peasants from a long time ago, as such business are probably very rarely conducted nowadays, used to sell their livestock namely bovines and donkeys after making them drink a lot of water.

 

[r16]

within 20 minutes it was disseminated down to housewifes who laughed at yours idiotly . Can't buy chestnuts even .

 

[r16]

pikachu is decreed a Zionist . There is this PICA , some agency for colonization of Palestine , pikuach nefesh is a Hebrew religious doctrine , it has appeared in anti-Netanyahu protests in Israel . Though the most succesful is the "Aunt" or Dancing one ; Tía Pikachu or Giovanna Grandón , the Chilean politician who went through 7 suits in the protests between 2019 and 2001 as tear gas ruins the material . Read her wikipedia page , it is on her son ...

apparently becoming more widespread here

some 20 year old instagram influencer and PT trainer or whatever , the guy seen in the video . Echo chamber inevitably had a member who knew him , the chamber member notable for being pro-seperatist .

the lack of coverage in this page of the rally on March 29th , is utterly simple . The Western media basically chosen to ignore it . The number being between 80 000 and 2,2 million people attending , according to whom you ask , its significance comes from the fact that the seperatists did not show up and it appears they are kept out in places when they show up . Nobody ever likes the Kemalists and whatnot , nobody will accept they exist as a grass roots thing , or common people but not sadistic elites .

people are out for their Democratic rights stuff , hard to argue otherwise unless you are a Party troll .

yes , it has some potential and whatnot bouyed by both sides being from the Blacksea region . The narrative now is that the son of the PM had organized a boycott of Starbucks on Zionist support after the Hamas attack thing in October 2023 to establish a coffee chain and this is why that chain was listed first in the Opposition initiated boycott campaign . It is working or not working according to whom you ask . It was strange to see people waiting in line , in Party propaganda and getting empty cups and whatnot and going through how good the taste was . This of course stems from the Camel thing . And now in the global manual of 1984ing . Ali , the 4th Caliph , moving out to Iraq and his Governor Muaviye in Damascus getting ready for a coup and stuff . Some guy from Iraq in Damascus for trade and his camel is stolen . He complains , goes up to Muaviye . A court is convened , the thief wins as there is this argument over the gender of the animal . Muaviye pulls the trader to a side after the court and tells him that he is right and it is an injustice but Muaviye has 10000 men in Damascus who won't identify a make camel from a female and will lie as witnesses when Muaviye tells them to . You will see more examples of it in the West , too . The coffee chain must be rich enough to give one cup to actors claiming to be fans or something , right ?

the Party is fully out to fight this boycott . Or maybe loose the fight to protect more profitable brands . Or maybe it really belongs to the son of the PM , apart from the usual percentage expected to be forwarded . Or whatever . So , some guy retweets something and calls people traitors . Maybe everybody who boycotts any brand . Or those who threw chairs back into a coffee shop . As chairs were first thrown out . Or not , depending on whom you ask . Turns out this some guy owns a company that organizes concerts . Ane Braun was the first artist to cancel her concert when people tweeted or did similar on the instagram to reach her . The British group Muse who reportedly would have 400 responses on average for their instagram posts , had 18 000 comments for their declaration that they would have a concert in Istanbul in June . Yes , the guy was a journalist in foreign countries , he advised both the PM and a former director of the religious affairs agency , no doubt he speaks English good enough to talk to managers and whatnot . Like no surprise in Islamists running the show business , too , insulting people who go to such concerts and calling the musicians all sorts of names and fight the lifestyle and everything . If there is money to be made ... lt has been reported the New Turkey arrests of managers so that New Turkey could control the entertainment sector more closely have been discussed in the Trump Cabinet .

 

[Snowygerry]

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the lack of coverage in this page of the rally on March 29th , is utterly simple . The Western media basically chosen to ignore it . The number being between 80 000 and 2,2 million people attending , according to whom you ask , its significance comes from the fact that the seperatists did not show up and it appears they are kept out in places when they show up . Nobody ever likes the Kemalists and whatnot , nobody will accept they exist as a grass roots thing , or common people but not sadistic elites .

That is not really the case, here they focus on the arrest of the Swedish journalist though...presumably because of the fuss that was made about Swedish NATO membership.

Zweedse journalist opgepakt en vastgehouden in Turkije: hij zou Erdogan ooit hebben "beledigd" tijdens protestactie | VRT NWS: nieuws

In Turkije is een Zweedse journalist opgepakt en opgesloten in de gevangenis. Hij was naar Turkije gereisd om er verslag uit te brengen van de protesten tegen de regering en zou meteen na de landing op de luchthaven zijn meegenomen door de politie.

www.vrt.be

Other than that they cover the opinion of Turks in Belgium, who are heavily in support of Erdogan, dictatorship in Turkey is great apparently as long you live in Belgium :

Inloggen

www.knack.be

Naturally such articles are not translated in English (for free), because, well no one in the UK or US cares.

Protesten in Turkije: waarom Turkse Belgen Erdogan blijven steunen

Protests in Turkey : why Turkish Belgians keep supporting Erdogan

You should be careful not to confuse "Western media" with English language media, that is only a tiny fraction.

 

[r16]

three CFC members have recently linked to news coverage and posted links with full texts . They naturally have other things to do in life ; it is only natural to expect they noticed their articles and that was because the media in their countries was covering it . They would presumably have linked more , had their media covered the rally to a similar extent . Yes , the gastarbeiter in Europe from this country are all Social Democrats and even Green when they vote in Europe and A-K-P in elections here . A choice by European goverments to infiltrate Islam on the cheap by permitting extremists to carry out the preaching . The PM became unpopular in Europe only after he replaced the Congregation in official Turkish things with other congregations . The Congregation being the chosen of the Right Wing of the country was more open to European command and control , willingly and fully committed , while the other congregations have to be repeatedly bought . When Gulf Arabs are in the market themselves , that drives up the costs exponantially .

the fuss over the Swedish entry into NATO was cleared by Stockholm first . Their people who know just sighed and had to openly embrace their American masters . Because Swedish blondes have long existed , such people have the means to be aware of the snickering at their expense , and the fun about the "increased security" of Sweden with joining NATO . That the evil Turks blackmailed Sweden to let them in (NATO) is not the brilliant political thing people assume it is , when the Starfleet enters the discussion in any way . The only thing was a permission for New Turkey to buy Block 70 F-16s and where are they and pox on them . As Trump gets briefed on why we will reject the just to be announced USN NGAD as well . Early F-40s are good . No need for late F-40s .

your picture definitely does not show Belgian Turks .

 

[Snowygerry]

No - but the question arises why Turks in Turkey are protesting with English language pancartes, or is it photoshopped ?

 

[r16]

because , contrary to ALL political theorizing , economic problems do not hurt the A-K-P rule as "cheap credits" and "donations" allow cushioning the impact on the social groups that are more unqualified and earning less but still number high enough to justify the vote fraud . It is you in Europe who should have been theoritically causing pressure on EU on like democratic reasons to prevent that money supply on whatever pretext . That's why every strategy expert will suddenly start heavily cursing all those leaders of the last 20 years . As soon as the first 2 mile long Starfleet transport arrives in orbit with a load of MBTs onboard .

istanbul Cevahir is unlikely to be "in Europe" . "I am committing banditry everyday" is a slogan from 2013 , too .

 

[Snowygerry]

"Democratic reasons" are done, we have given up on spreading democracy, that was the late 90s to early 2000s and failed (or succeeded spectacularly, depending on how you look at it, even Russia is a democracy now),

Now it is liberal democracy for us, dictatorial democracy for the "rest of the world".

 

[r16]

istanbul Cevahir is apparently a mall in Taksim , so , yes , it is in Europe .

see , reality , facts on the ground , stuff , are not things that impress the Turks .

edit: The following part was a seperate post dated April 2nd, 2025 . Deleted go keep post numbers down

was going to post in the Middle East thread , then like , why not here ? Israel is attacking airbases to be turned over to New Turkey in Syria . Reportedly deaths among construction crews . On someday Trump covers all the talking points . Should one remind Bibi that the PM is his best friend , similarly close to Qatar which somehow has been paying the Israeli cabinet and his war with the PM might still not be enough to ensure election victories for both or either of them ?

 

[Samson]

PKK to disarm after decades of attacks against Turkey

A Kurdish militant group whose attacks and insurgency against Turkey have spanned more than four decades has declared it will disarm and disband, after a call from its jailed leader earlier this year.

The Kurdistan Workers’ party (PKK) announced the decision to dissolve its guerrilla forces, heeding a watershed announcement from Abdullah Öcalan three months ago.

Leaders of the militia group, which is regarded as a terrorist organisation in Turkey, the UK and the US, said their armed insurgency had “brought the Kurdish issue to the point of resolution through democratic politics, and in this regard the PKK has completed its historical mission.”

The PKK’s decision to disband has further isolated allied Kurdish fighting forces in north-east Syria. The Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) remain under increasing pressure to integrate into Syria’s new military after the collapse of the regime of Bashar al-Assad last year and the withdrawal of hundreds of supporting American troops from areas in the north-east under their control.

 

[r16]

it is a lie . Wikipedia doesn't even have a seperate article on Kadek , totally peaceful and political thing declared in 2002 to ease the A-K-P takeover thing and lasting about a year and a half as the American invasion of Iraq created new opportunities as the blue eyed boys of Pentagon , the Peshmerga of the Barzani clan already proving to be soft and reliant on US firepower and bribes , not actually fully conducive to liberate Iran on a rush .

deleted a post to stay under 12000

by the looks of it the city high schools discuss my sx appeal on this august day and that doesn't exist . From this and the thing the declaration has been delayed for months was imminent on the 9th but for the Indian Rafale jets burning in the fields for some reason and this is relevant as the idea happens to be the very same missiles will be flying with wild abandon in , over and out of Iran , considering the Chinese satellite targeting seems to be bothering the USN somewhat greatly in the Red Sea , ı also suggest it is a lie that will not find any purchase on its intented target , nothing will happen to the Kurdish seperatist presence in Syria . We are not falling for such lies . As for those who have found my silence or whatever as disillusioning , if the country was kept afloat only by my word , you are dead for a very long time and nobody cries for you .