TheGrayFox
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It is a little weird if they have T-34 tanks but no Russia.
And Panzer-III's but no Germany, for that matter.
Germany AND Russia are more likely than Mexico.
It is a little weird if they have T-34 tanks but no Russia.
And Panzer-III's but no Germany, for that matter.
It is a little weird if they have T-34 tanks but no Russia.
And Panzer-III's but no Germany, for that matter.
Buildings with the architecture of a Latin country can be seen around the Palacio de Bellas Artes. If it's not Mexico, it's something very close.Germany AND Russia are more likely than Mexico.
I would probably guess Germany is outBuildings with the architecture of a Latin country can be seen around the Palacio de Bellas Artes. If it's not Mexico, it's something very close.
It's hard to believe that 4 of the 10 modern civs will be European. This means that almost half of the options to finish the game will be European countries. I believe that either Germany or Russia will be out.
This wouldn't make sense to me. If influence in the time period is weighed that far beneath regional representation, you might as well shed it as a consideration wholly.It's hard to believe that 4 of the 10 modern civs will be European. This means that almost half of the options to finish the game will be European countries. I believe that either Germany or Russia will be out.
I think a DLC having Teutons, Habsburg Germany and German Empire would sell really really well.This doesn't mean it's unimaginable. It would have been, in past eras, because DLC had yet to reshape the business incentives. As that happens, cynically, it makes more and more sense to release very influential civs through DLC, because it almost certainly has an extremely high dollars/dev time ratio.
I would probably guess Germany is out
Russia can come from Mongols, but there is no good exploration predecessor fo Germany.
I specifically looked for that and thought I saw 6 wheels. I need new glasses.The tank shown is a Pz IV, not III: 8 rather than 6 small road wheels on each side is the 'tell' between the two: the Pz III was officially a Light Tank which originally weighed less than 20 tons, the Pz IV a Medium tank weighing (originally) 22 tons and carrying the short barreled 75mm cannon shown on the model.
Find that less likely than Germany just being there.like if it's unlocked by taking the Totalitarian government or something
Since the first DLCs are each 4 Civs and 2 Leaders, I suggest that a 'Teutonic' DLC might be:I think a DLC having Teutons, Habsburg Germany and German Empire would sell really really well.
Since the first DLCs are each 4 Civs and 2 Leaders, I suggest that a 'Teutonic' DLC might be:
Antiquity Age Tuetoni (or Cimbri, Suebi, Batavi, all of which interacted with the Romans more)
Exploration Age Holy Roman Empire
Direct Progression from Teutoni
Indirect Progression from Rome
Associated Wonders: Hildesheim Cathedral OR Wartburg Castle
Leader: Maria Theresa
Exploration Age Bohemia
Direct Progression from Tuetoni
Indirect Progression from Rome
Associated Wonder: Schönnbrunn Palace
Modern Age German Empire
Direct Progression from Holy Roman Empire
Indirect Progression from Goths
Associated Wonder: Brandenburg Gate
Leader: Friedrich III
Germany is a pretty big market. Also, we currently have a roster which works just fine with Germany, Britain, France, Russia, etc. It only falls if people try to push some modern age LATAM civ there, which I found pretty unlikely on release.Germany ( as "Germany", not necesarily HRE or Teutons or Hanseatic League) is fine as an exploration age civ. What's the big deal. Modern Germany can come later as a DLC.
This is a pretty accurate statement.Germany is a pretty big market. Also, we currently have a roster which works just fine with Germany, Britain, France, Russia, etc. It only falls if people try to push some modern age LATAM civ there, which I found pretty unlikely on release.
Being from Germany I agree with you, but most things I have seen so far point towards Firaxis focussing more one broad representation, than on catering only to the european markets. Europe won the Exploration age on the TSL Map. That shouldn't mean they need to win every publishing decision from here on until eternity. Germany will come and if Russia is left out they wil come too.Germany is a pretty big market. Also, we currently have a roster which works just fine with Germany, Britain, France, Russia, etc. It only falls if people try to push some modern age LATAM civ there, which I found pretty unlikely on release.
While it's possible Britain is gone, I still think the fact that the game was openly directly inspired by Rome - Norman - Britain makes it pretty likely. To be clear, I'd be perfectly fine with dropping Britain for another civ on launch, and I suppose it does seem a bit odd that they've yet to directly state it, but they were talking about Napoleon and Ashoka specifically in that presentation.I still think Britain is out because we already got the Normans representing the isle. Ed was talking about civs in the sense of the game design philosophy in his PAX talk, not necessarily about civs in the base game. He also used the Franks to illustrate the progression system while emphasizing that such namedropping is not a confirmation of their presence in the base game. Stacks weren't a priority except for countries which have been ridiculous temporal blobs so far, i.e. China and India. Outside of these two countries, the selections so far feel like they've been made the same way as for any other game before, just with a lot more civs. I doubt that staples of previous games are now out after the roster was expanded by 50%.
Mexico or another LatAm has got to be in because of the city style.
Don't overrate the tank appearances though, unit skins don't mean much. Have we learned nothing from the whole Gaul thing? However, without Britain, Germany and Russia and Mexico could be in.
I agree, especially we had specifically Exploration Age England. I do wonder how much "English" will be in the Norman civ and whether it will feel like playing an Exploration Age England.To be clear, I'd be perfectly fine with dropping Britain for another civ on launch, and I suppose it does seem a bit odd that they've yet to directly state it, but they were talking about Napoleon and Ashoka specifically in that presentation.
Mexico works perfectly well for an era transition mechanic, as it’s a country heavily influenced by its ancestral cultures (though, of course, transitioning from the Incas instead of the Aztecs might seem confusing, the point still stands) - furthermore, the Latin architecture seen in the screenshots is one of the main clues that reinforces the inclusion of Mexico.. Even with the likely transition coming from the Incas, I don’t think Germany or Russia have more fitting historical paths than Mexico at launch.Germany is a pretty big market. Also, we currently have a roster which works just fine with Germany, Britain, France, Russia, etc. It only falls if people try to push some modern age LATAM civ there, which I found pretty unlikely on release.