NoP NESII: The "New Imperialism"

[#1 Person]

Shadowbound gets the Germany. All nations that had agreements with Germany (I remember seeing some in the orders), I advise you resend the treaty to Shadowbound.


I finished the map, and it has been posted.

UK: You should read this for historical background, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Boer_War

 

[Luckymoose]

OOC: JPEG make bad map quality.

 

[Communisto]

If we gave everyone what they wanted, we would not be an Empire. You know we will refuse to give up land that was British-held before the war. If it is access to the sea you want, you could easily have gained that without war. Instead, you chose to assault our holdings. Instead of seeking a peaceful expansion into uncontested lands, you chose to attack us. We will enforce our borders by arms if necessary. This is more of a ploy to push us out of South Africa than it is to gain a seaport. Your only choice of gaining entrance to the sea is to expand to the east and west. It merely depends on how much British lead you are willing to absorb to learn that lesson.

The only reason we are fighting you right now is because the British Empire decided to ignore the Sand River Convention, which you signed in 1852. That declaration guaranteed us the right to a sovereign state. You have since revoked it and broken your word. We retaliated by declaring our independence and now our troops have forced themselves deep into your colony. We are willing to halt the conflict in return for a tiny swath of land in your Empire. Surely a few hundred miles of Africa is not worth a military quagmire? Give us what we need or the entire colony will be in Afrikaner hands by the end of the year.

OOC: JPEG make bad map quality.

Agreed.

 

[a_propagandist]

The only reason we are fighting you right now is because the British Empire decided to ignore the Sand River Convention, which you signed in 1852. That declaration guaranteed us the right to a sovereign state. You have since revoked it and broken your word. We retaliated by declaring our independence and now our troops have forced themselves deep into your colony. We are willing to halt the conflict in return for a tiny swath of land in your Empire. Surely a few hundred miles of Africa is not worth a military quagmire? Give us what we need or the entire colony will be in Afrikaner hands by the end of the year.



Agreed.

What is your proposal then?

And how have we revoked our guarantee of your sovereignty?

 

[Communisto]

Cape Treaty​

1: The British Empire cedes the following territories to the Transvaal Repblic

2: Transvaal pays 1 EP to the British Empire in reparations.

3: All hostilities between the British Empire, Orange Free State and Transvaal Republic cease.

4: Transvaal Republic and the British Empire sign a non-aggression pact which will expire January of 1886.

5: All POWs on both sides are returned.

We are also willing and interested in participating in joint economic projects to the benefit of our two nations.

 

[#1 Person]

Yeah, I fixed the map.

 

[a_propagandist]

OOC: #1, How will this affect my EP?

 

[Communisto]

OOC: #1, How will this affect my EP?

It shouldn't affect it that much, you still have Cape Town which is the only economic centre in the entire area.

 

[a_propagandist]

OOC: Problem: There's gold in them thar' hills.

 

[Shadowbound]

Agreed.

The Kaiser seconds.

To Great Britain
From the German Empire

The Kaiser looks with... well, not really any emotion on the treaty being negotiated between the Transvaal and Britain. However, he wants to buy the remains of the British South Africa colony if the treaty is signed, and will pretend to be relieved that British troops comported themselves so well in the war and that it was resolved without anyone else dying. So, what price will Britain take for it's South African colony?

Accepting this offer would extricate the British Empire from anymore unpleasantness in the region, and secure a good and lasting friendship with the German Reich.

 

[#1 Person]

You would loose 1 EP from cape-town. (notice that you already have, if you look at the update)

 

[Communisto]

OOC: Problem: There's gold in them thar' hills.

OOC: Most of it is up near Pretoria anyways, and bet your bottom dollar you wont be getting that far

 

[a_propagandist]

The British Empire will probably refuse both the German and Boer offers.

 

[Communisto]

The British Empire will probably refuse both the German and Boer offers.

To: British Empire
From: Transvaal & Orange Free State

Care to atleast propose a counter-treaty before diving right back into what will no doubt be a long and bloody war?

 

[a_propagandist]

1) Pre-war borders,
2) We will help you establish naval bases on both sides of Africa
3) Joint Boer-British colonization of Madagascar
4) Joint Boer-British colonization of the Congo
5) Reparations paid to Britain
6) Boer sovereignty recognized

 

[Communisto]

1) Pre-war borders,
2) We will help you establish naval bases on both sides of Africa
3) Joint Boer-British colonization of Madagascar
4) Joint Boer-British colonization of the Congo
5) Reparations paid to Britain
6) Boer sovereignty recognized

1) Borders as proposed in the original treaty

2) 2 ep payed to Britain in reparations

3) Boers do not interfere with any British colonization of Africa.

4) Joint Cape Town-Pretoria railway constructed by Anglo-Boer partnership

5) NAP signed as outlined in previous treaty

6) Boer sovereignty recognized

 

[a_propagandist]

Strike reparations, keep pre-war borders.

 

[Communisto]

Strike reparations, keep pre-war borders.

To: Britain
From: Transvaal & OFS

I'm afraid we cannot comply. The above treaty is our final offer. You are going to need allies, we suggest you start making them now, instead of new enemies.

 

[BEHIND_THE_MASK]

Hey Comrade #1.. With all this diplomacy going on do you think you could answer the diplomacy her page? I know I probably have some time till orders are do but I always like to be sure before last minute treaties pop up.

 

[#1 Person]

After I put up the stats I will look at it.