NotW XXXI: It's a Long Story (Game Thread)

[j65536d]

The quiet councilor slowly gets to his feet dismayed at what the tall councilor (backwards logic) has said. Someone may be using his precious gold in order to undermime the council that is so near to his heart. He glares at the stealthy councilor (Sprig) but then realizes that to eliminate this threat the council must stand together and he goes over and stands next to the tall councilor and switches his ire to match that councilors staring daggers at the sneaky council (Seon).

 

[Backwards Logic]

There were a number of people who supported Sprig yesterday under the circumstances of the items present and his ability. I also do not believe those on Sprig's faction would be so blatant to support him when he was under considerable suspicion because of his item hoarding.

 

[Zack]

Seon, it would be wise to rid you from our midst. We don't want the Undercouncil overthrown, and you don't even have anything to offer, like sprig and stuck in pi do.

 

[Omega124]

Due to the 3rd person rule, I'm targeting Civplayah to lynching. As we all know, the 3rd person to consecutively vote on the same person is usually a "Villain" in the terms of NoTW.

 

[TheForestAuro]

I am looking for another reserve to replace a player.

 

[choxorn]

Oh, hi BL, I haven't seen you much, was it because you started the game at the bottom of a river being attacked by piranhas?

Just how many fingers did they bite off?

Anyway, Seon must die. I'm also doubting sprig's usefulness- I was the first to vote him the overlord idol, but haven't gotten any gold from his destruction of it.

 

[Bad Player]

OOC Ghost: I'd love to rejoin but I don't know if I can TFA.
Also, BL, I think I was the first to point out noone knows how much an item is worth.

 

[Sprig]

Seon, you were just a little too eager to bandwagon J-man. I think for a few reasons:

You are trying to protect your buddy Stuck in Pi. Yea, I know you're working with him. Here's how:
In our conversations, you revealed needing to find an item. Stuck in Pi revealed the same to me as well. I also found out Stuck in Pi is the one who possesses the ability to improve items, not Sprig. Sprig can only destroy them, and along with a few other people you were among those who voted every item to him. I've also found out that the three of you aim to acquire a large sum of money, with which you intend to destroy the Undercouncil with. Sprig's ability to destroy items into gold would certainly go a long way with that, and as the late Nictel pointed out we have no way to determine how much an item is worth. As long as he gives something to those he promised, who would question the true worth of the item? Say an item is worth 50 gold, he claims it's worth 20, then gives out 4 gold each to his 'investors.' He's still pocketing 30.

So in conclusion, Sprig, Stuck in Pi, and Seon are all here to destroy the Undercouncil with money. Sprig and Stuck in Pi at least have useful abilities that could be used to aid the Undercouncil - Seon, it would seem you do not. I would encourage those who are true to the Undercouncil to do the same.

Disquisition may have the gold. And I vote Order.

Trying to destroy the council? Our intention is quite the opposite; it is our duty to make sure the council stays well funded. As merchants we are well placed to do this. Spreading such mis-information away unfortunately reveals your true intention. It seems a lust for gold has taken hold over you Backwards Logic which clouds your vision and does not let you see the greater picture. In fact we are probably the one faction that does not hold any threat to this council.

Since you yourself are unlikely to be a puppet, I am guessing it is yourself that is threatened by our existence. It is only logical that since I trying to keep this council together that you must be against this.

As for the others who are easly swayed by BL's hollow words, I suggest caution for he will lead you blindly down to the point of no return.

 

[Backwards Logic]

Lust for gold? Since when have I asked for gold? You on the other hand, even with your own way to make gold, still asked gold to be voted to you. Care to explain that?

Oh, and the Undercouncil can finance itself, as evidenced by the assassinations we set out for the Octopus Overlord Cultists. So again, let me ask, why do you want all of this gold? Plus I like how you conveniently glossed over choxorn's post about not being paying him for the destruction of the Idol. Try again?

 

[Sprig]

I'm also doubting sprig's usefulness- I was the first to vote him the overlord idol, but haven't gotten any gold from his destruction of it.

Money will not end up in those that are against this council if I am aware of their intentions for this reason you were excluded - Love, Civgeneral, Csargo, Seon, Zack all received their share to which they can testify.

 

[Askthepizzaguy]

Order, of course. As Seon says, governments may be bribed.

I think we must ask what purpose tuxedohamm serves here. He barely speaks, and yet the Priest of Winter was eager to protect him.

Seon, you were just a little too eager to bandwagon J-man. I think for a few reasons:

Fantastic thinking. People are really on the ball this time. I am truly perplexed as to which is the best lead at the moment. If there were only some way for me to decide which banner to follow....

 

[CCRunner]

Since he was wise enough to cede the map to my more educated self, Disquisistion is obviously wise enough to handle the gold. I keep my bargains.

As for the others who are easly swayed by BL's hollow words, I suggest caution for he will lead you blindly down to the point of no return.

I'd hardly call one lynch a 'point of no return'. And we're not going blindly-- I'll soon have a map after all

I personally, am more swayed by Backwards Logic's reasoning than sprigs "No, YOU'RE evil!" approach. Seon

Money will not end up in those that are against this council if I am aware of their intentions for this reason you were excluded - Love, Civgeneral, Csargo, Seon, Zack all received their share to which they can testify.

If Choxorn is against this council why haven't you bothered to share that point until now, when he called you out on not getting his money? I mean, it's not like the day first started; we've had like 40 hours for you to get that accusation in...

Edit: Also, Order

 

[J-man]

I will change my vote to Seon!

 

[Sprig]

Since he was wise enough to cede the map to my more educated self, Disquisistion is obviously wise enough to handle the gold. I keep my bargains.I'd hardly call one lynch a 'point of no return'. And we're not going blindly-- I'll soon have a map after all

I personally, am more swayed by Backwards Logic's reasoning than sprigs "No, YOU'RE evil!" approach. Seon

If Choxorn is against this council why haven't you bothered to share that point until now, when he called you out on not getting his money? I mean, it's not like the day first started; we've had like 40 hours for you to get that accusation in...

Edit: Also, Order

It is not an accusation against Choxorn, just my pronouncement of distrust. There are several persons that are not exactly the type of people we want on the council, there existence is known by a few but there seems reluctance to bring them forth for judgement. It is not my place as a Merchant to bring them forth unless they directly threaten this council and my existence. BL threatens my livelihood so I accuse him directly for he has a hidden motivation. I won’t stand by idly while he makes up claims that Seon and myself is out to destroy this council.

We have far more pressing matters than worrying about whether some merchants want some gold or not. We no doubt have in our mists Ashen veil, vampires, Cultists etc. and yet a merchant is worth voting for??? By Esus that is freaking weird.

 

[Stuck in Pi]

The strong counselor looks up at the tall counselor. His head barely reaches BL's shoulders

you has some problems with argument, Backwards.

Firstly, me need item for personal goal, not victory condition. Re-read PMs.

Second, I has already upgraded items for some here to improve strength further. Why I do if me no likey undercouncil?

Lastly, how we destroy undercouncil with money? You say undercouncil is well funded, so how tall man?

What me no likey is tuxedohamm. Renata speak something good. he silent two.

Oh, and me no likey Order

to everybody, me good with forge. For fee, upgrade items. Make them shiny-er and betterer.

 

[Askthepizzaguy]

Hoo hoo hoo... that's good enough for me unless someone have better reason on Stuck.

tuxedohamm

 

[Backwards Logic]

Firstly, me need item for personal goal, not victory condition. Re-read PMs.

Acquire an item for your personal goal, huh? Then what, upgrade it? Give it to sprig to destroy it? Given your ability to upgrade items, all you would have had to do was advertise that you can upgrade items. Except you had Sprig advertise for you, faking that he had your ability along with his. I'm certain the line of thought was if you all made one player look like the awesome item man, everyone would vote them to you so you can upgrade them or destroy them as you please. No, it sounds like part of your VC - perhaps your regular VC involves the large sum of money, and your flawless VC is to have this item in your possession at the same time. Sprig doing his 'duel' ability reveal, plus destroying items for money, plus charging for your services seems to confirm this line of thought. So I'm not buying your PG story at all.

Second, I has already upgraded items for some here to improve strength further. Why I do if me no likey undercouncil?

Let me answer this with another quote:

to everybody, me good with forge. For fee, upgrade items. Make them shiny-er and betterer.

I've bolded the key part. I'm sure your fee is higher than what it costs actually upgrade anything, if your ability even costs gold in the first place.

Lastly, how we destroy undercouncil with money? You say undercouncil is well funded, so how tall man?

By buying out the individual members perhaps? People around here seem susceptible enough to bribery...

EDIT: I also like how neither of you have actually defended Seon after I called him out saying he likely has no ability that can help the Undercouncil. Which only confirms the ability he does have is of no use to the Council, in fact it probably can be used against it, for surely one of you would have brought it up by now.

 

[tuxedohamm]

(OOC: Weekends will be the death of me)

I still have strong feelings that Sprig is to not be trusted. I certainly have no clue what those items that he "destroyed" were worth or what the did. I don't see what point there is in only informing a select few what their properties were if there were to be destroyed. So by my logic I am certain that some were in fact held by him and any payments made were likely from money already possessed or collected from friends.

 

[Earthling]

The Learned Councilor takes in the scene and sprouting debates

The admission that sprig/Stuck in Pi/Seon were collectively scheming and hoarding stuff against the Council's interest is enough reason to want to weaken their alliance. I can't say I have a problem with them just earning gold for services but since Seon appears to have unspecified motives and abilities I have no incentive to vote otherwise. But I'd still be receptive to a well-presented case or reason for me to try to prevent this lynch if someone would provide one in private. I am concerned there are killers on the loose, at the least.

 

[Csargo]

I think we should target the Order.