Obama's Long-Form Birth Certificate is found Fake by photoshop experts

[Civrules]

I thought this issue was dead and I was glad of it. Tired of reading on it. But the things I dig up never cease to amaze me.

The photoshop community (you know - there's a community for everything on the internet) has found indisputable evidence that the birth certificate the white house released is a fake or at least heavily modified.

That doesn't mean that he wasn't born here or whatever, it just means that it is simply not authentic. Look at step by step evidence in the many many videos you'll find.

This is just one of them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2L5a_KS6iw&feature=related

PS: If you are good at photoshop, download the long-form PDF certificate and play around with it and see what you find.

There are many tech savvy people here. So it's a good way to see first-hand.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/rss_viewer/birth-certificate-long-form.pdf

 

[Ajidica]

Question: Are you actualy this paranoid or are you just a dissafected hipster trying to be 'alternative'?

 

[Civrules]

Dude this is a hobby. I'm a curious man. Something that's amusing to me.

I think it's fun to be curious, wouldn't you agree?

 

[Ajidica]

There is a very large line between curiosity and inanity.

 

[Civrules]

You're welcome to look at what is being shown or not. Turning what is being shown to you into personal attacks speaks volumes to more intelligent people with critical-thinking skills.

And by that definition, the thousands of people that are showing what I am showing are just as insane.

 

[Ajidica]

A youtube conspiracy theorist is no substitute for an actual report or articles by reputable agencies. I show the same level of respect to anyone who starts a conspiracy theory thread and uses a youtube clip as their sole piece of 'evidence'.

Anyhow, while you can photoshop alot of things, would those photoshops have all the accompanying records and certifications that the acutal long-form BC and COLB have? Not in the slightest. A photoshoped document would not have been sufficient to fool the State Department as they examined it to ensure its validity. It might fool people on the internet, but not experts.

 

[Civrules]

Again, you're welcome to look at this with your own eyes first hand. You don't have to believe anyone man. You can let this go or not.

 

[NetGear]

A better conspiracy is obama is powerful enough to ask the illuminati to make him an authentic certificate.

Since those jews control how certificates are made anyway.

 

[Ajidica]

Again, you're welcome to look at this with your own eyes first hand.

You mean I can look at a video made by a youtube conspiracy theorist with my own eyes.

You don't have to believe anyone man. You can let this go or not.

Why did you post this here, if not ostentiably to convince us of our delusion? Should we not return the favor to you?

 

[Shadowbound]

US CONSTITUTION IS FOUND FAKE BY YOUTUBE'S HANDWRITING EXPERTS

DID JOHN HANCOCK REALLY SIGN IT, OR WAS IT ONE OF BEN FRANKLIN'S FAMOUS PRANKS?

STEP-BY-STEP EXPLANATION OF HOW THE GREATEST FRAUD IN HISTORY WAS UNCOVERED

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CD2LRROpph0&feature=player_detailpage#t=16s0

 

[Civrules]

Should we not return the favor to you?

If I had a stake in this, then on some level I'd care. But I don't, so I don't.

Doesn't really much matter where this goes. Only curious and amusing.

US CONSTITUTION IS FOUND FAKE BY YOUTUBE'S HANDWRITING EXPERTS

DID JOHN HANCOCK REALLY SIGN IT, OR WAS IT ONE OF BEN FRANKLIN'S FAMOUS PRANKS?

STEP-BY-STEP EXPLANATION OF HOW THE GREATEST FRAUD IN HISTORY WAS UNCOVERED

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CD2LRROpph0&feature=player_detailpage#t=16s0

Don't knock that video. It's legit. Only l00sers don't see the genius behind it.

 

[Ajidica]

If I had a stake in this, then on some level I'd care. But I don't, so I don't.

Doesn't really much matter where this goes. Only curious and amusing.

So in short you are spamming or trolling? Since you have no personal interest in this thread and were posting solely to 'see where it goes' and evidently derive some amusement out of it I am forced to concern it was one of the two options I presented.

 

[Bill3000]

You're welcome to look at what is being shown or not. Turning what is being shown to you into personal attacks speaks volumes to more intelligent people with critical-thinking skills.

As a more intelligent person with highly developed critical thinking skills, I can say that you are incorrect; it is perfectly valid to dismiss conspiracy theorists with extreme prejudice.

Example:


Link to video.

 

[Scratch]

As a more intelligent person with highly developed critical thinking skills, I can say that you are incorrect; it is perfectly valid to dismiss conspiracy theories.

You're in on the conspiracy, aren't you? If you say yes, we know it's true. If you deny it, it's still true.

 

[woody60707]

Ignore them. Look at the left wing birthers and the truthers. People who had an irrational hate of someone/thing are more willing to believe the most batcrap crazy of things about said person/thing.

 

[classical_hero]

This is in the wrong forum.

 

[Monsterzuma]

if its about the hidden layers in the adobe illustrator files this might shed some light on it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QADAkitLu_c

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcWQw2AAIho

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHZQ_SrEiOc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqoB7F9-wOM

basically, the layers get created in the process of optimizing the image in the scanning procedure.

it's still a good cover for faking the data, though.

(sorry, i haven't watched the whole video; see if this is relevant for yourselves)

 

[aelf]

Ignore them. Look at the left wing birthers and the truthers. People who had an irrational hate of someone/thing are more willing to believe the most batcrap crazy of things about said person/thing.

Indeed, the birthers and the truthers are all part of a great left-wing conspiracy theorist movement.

 

[Holycannoli]

This is quite interesting to say the least.

The video did not mention the obvious problem with the upper right corner of the document, and indeed the entire left margin being bent.

 

[Leonel]

Interesting. I loaded it up in Adobe Illustrator and there are indeed layers in it. However this could just mean that it was scanned by a printer that breaks down individual elements into their own separate layers. The printer probably had trouble with the green patterned background so scanned the black elements, turned it white and expanded and overlay-ed the black on top of the white to make the text easier to read. I haven't checked but if it was fake, I would assume there'd be no black parts overlapping each other.

EDIT: Yeah it's as I suspected in Monsterzuma post.