Manfred Belheim
Moaner Lisa
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This thread is classic internet.
For context, he sliced open his esophagus, was taken to the emergency room for emergency surgery, treated for chest infections over his heart, had a heart attack, was placed in two medical comas, and fed with a tube because he didn't have the common sense that boneless wings should be expected to have bones in them since chickens obviously have bones. The next time someone asks me, "Hey Plains-Cow, how do you cook wings?" I'm going to reply, "Boneless!" because, of course, that refers to a cooking style.After reading the article itself... stupid clickbait.
("Boneless wing" is actually finger-shaped nugget of breast fillet. One such had a thin slice of bone left in and some unfortunate guy scratched his esophagus with that. In that context, perfectly sensible ruling).
"Live by the boneless, die by the bone."I had boneless wings maybe once because I was dumb and didn't know. They're really just glorified nuggets, so I never understood the name.
It's a difficult situation because any meat could very well have a bone within it. I've had bones in burgers, ham, nuggets, etc. It's inevitable. You really just have to chew carefully, softly, in order to pick these things out before heaven forbid something gets stuck.
All my favourite rulings are the ones I agree with.I say the regulatory point of interest here didn't happen in the restaurant, it probably can't be entirely dealt with and still sell chicken nuggets and you come back with seat belts for me?
Bit early to be drunk, isn't it?
That depends on the size of the bone fragments remaining. If it's like pieces the size of a small seed than of course not. But if the fragments are large enough to be a choking hazard than one can reasonably claim negligence on part of whom ever supervised the process.Well, the bones had been removed, except by accident some small shard remained. The court decided that this is not a danger that a reasonable person needs to be explicitly pre-warned about and I agree. It is not as if the guy was server regular chicken wings.
Or do you think the world would be a better place if restaurants started to include fine print warnings in their menus: "As a result of industrial de-boning process, boneless wings might rarely have shards of bones remaining inside them - please exercise appropriate caution when chewing and swallowing" ?
I'm assuming "torn a hole in a man's oesophagus" allows us to identify a tolerance that's well beyond what you're suggesting simply isn't doable.No, I'm just curious what to do with bones-removed chicken processes. I provided a link to a lot of current regulatory definitions, you can probably link follow to specifications and tolerances. Like allowable spiders per jar of peanut butter(I seem to remember it being ~3). So what's defined as a bone, rather than gristle, how big, and how many are allowed in the final product? Restaurants are not going to be pulling apart pre-ordered "chicken tenders(nuggets)" to check them. They are unlikely to be pressing chicken processing leavings into nugget patties in store either. If they're hand cutting meat, they're probably going to sell it as the better piece of meat it still is. Do you have a stance to take or are we just talking ****? The latter is fine, especially if you're drunk, but it'd be nice to track where we're at.
It was a whole half of a wishbone; looked like a small knife.That depends on the size of the bone fragments remaining. If it's like pieces the size of a small seed than of course not. But if the fragments are large enough to be a choking hazard than one can reasonably claim negligence on part of whom ever supervised the process.
It's 5 hours earlier here and I have a cold, not gonna be as intoxicated as making your points fun usually takes!I'm assuming "torn a hole in a man's oesophagus" allows us to identify a tolerance that's well beyond what you're suggesting simply isn't doable.
I'm also assuming that consistently, to be against them darn pesky feds being pesky, you should be more aligned with those criticising it. But alas.
No need to project on the drinking either. I don't rely on excuses
For you and me both. Until then, hypocrisy is as hypocrisy does. The next time a big judgement comes down you're upset at, I'm sure folks will be supportive.It's 5 hours earlier here and I have a cold, not gonna be as intoxicated as making your points fun usually takes!
But hope springs eternal for future discussions.