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Other Enjoyable Civilization V Games (Immortal and below)

Discussion in 'Civ5 - Strategy & Tips' started by Nizef, Sep 20, 2020.

  1. Nizef

    Nizef Prince

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    It was mostly to get ourselves out of the comfort zone. Try to choose Divine Inspiration and Itinerant Preachers. The AIs on Emperor will have little say in the religion game with that combo.
     
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    It should also be reasonably easy to pass World Religion at first occasion if the goal is to dominate religiously. And given the lower difficulty, settling more cities just for the sake of extra pressure would not be as punishing as on deity. ( using diplomat on 3-4 civs to buy their vote).
     
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  3. zxcvbob

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    Trying it again; this time I took Itinerate Preachers instead of Religious Texts, and that has made all the difference. (I think Religious Texts is better when you don't go Piety) Turn 100:
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    zxcvbob Emperor

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    Napoleon is pushing back, but he did not take Piety so he'll run out of faith soon. I built the Great Mosque and I'm buying a missionary every other turn even tho' I don't have anyplace to send them right now. He is also the culture leader, so this won't end well for one of us ;) I've been lagging back in the medieval era to buy missionaries, inquisitors, and cathedrals cheap, but I need to get my science on pretty soon and take the lead.
     
  5. Nizef

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    Here is a list of the OECG series so far:

    1. Russia (King, Pangaea, Quick speed, Small size, Unmodded)
    2. the Mayans (Emperor, Great Plains Plus, Epic speed, Large size, Unmodded)
    3. Egypt (Emperor, Pangaea, Quick speed, Small size, Unmodded)
    4. the Ottomans (Prince, Archipelago, Standard speed, Standard size, Unmodded)
    5. Germany (Emperor, Hellblazer´s Pangaea, Quick speed, Small size, Modded with Hellblazer´s map pack (v.8))
    6. Ethiopia (King, Pangaea, Quick speed, Small size, Unmodded)
    7. the Incas (Emperor, Frontier, Quick speed, Small size, Unmodded
    8. the Papal States (Emperor, Pangaea, Quick speed, Standard size, Modded civ to play otherwise unmodded)
    9. the Shoshone (Immortal, Pangaea, Quick speed, Small size, Unmodded)
    10. Austria (Prince, Pangaea, Quick speed, Standard size, Unmodded)
    11. Byzantium (King, Pangaea, Quick speed, Standard size, Unmodded)
    12. Babylon (Warlord, Pangaea, Quick speed, Standard size, Unmodded)
    13. Spain (Emperor, Pangaea, Quick speed, Standard size, Unmodded)
    14. Finland (Emperor, Lakes, Quick speed, Standard size, Modded civ to play otherwise unmodded)
     
  6. zxcvbob

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    Trying #14 one more time. Last night I converted the whole world to my religion except for the other holy cities, and one or two more AI cities their owners were struggling to maintain with all the pressure my religion was exerting, and I had 9 missionaries standing around with nothing to do. Meanwhile I was lagging in science (catching up slowly), only mediocre in culture in spite of finishing the Aesthetics tree, and Napoleon beat me in the Worlds Fair and has beat me to almost all the wonders. And I think the Incas are about to declare war, and my military isn't bad but it's not up to that because I wasted so much production on the WF.

    I think other than maybe the opener, Piety is not the right way to go. Tradition, Liberty, or even Honor would be better. Or I should have taken the belief where you can buy pre-industrial units for faith and bought a musket every other turn instead of a missionary and gone on the warpath to eliminate the competition.
     
  7. Nizef

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    As a comparison, I didn´t touch Piety at all. My SPs were: full Tradition, Patronage opener (for Forbidden), full Aesthetics, Commerce 2, Exploration opener (for Louvre), full Rationalism and Freedom 7. Early BO in Helsinki was: Scout-Monument-Granary-Great Library (t24)-Stonehenge (t31)-National College(t37) and expos after that. I stole two workers early to smoothen the trip.
     
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    Okay, I finally got #14. CV on turn 236. There were 26 cities following my religion, and I had 2 GP's out converting the rest. Left side of Liberty, Piety opener to unlock Great Mosque, finish Liberty, Aesthetics, Rationalism, Freedom(9), and then the left side of Patronage just because. I settled 5 cities, one of them coastal so I could build Sydney Opera House. I didn't use any concert tours at the end because the civs that mattered wouldn't give me open borders, and I was gaining on them really fast anyway. I wonder if I should have proposed International Games while everyone still liked me and I had open borders?
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    I did not try for Great Library; I went Pyramids and Parthenon instead. All-in-all I built 15 wonders plus picked up one (Terracotta) from the Incas, and I tried to spread them out a little for the Aesthetics bonus.
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    Something weird is going on with the map generation when I create a game using Finland. In my previous game there were no city states. In this game there are no luxuries and apparently no city states (I haven't explored the whole map yet) even though I double-checked when I set it up; there should be 12 CS's.
     
  10. Nizef

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    OECG#15: Crowded

    This time we play as Denmark. The level is King and we play on an unmodded Small Continents map with Standard size and Standard speed and all VCs are enabled and QM and QC are turned on as usual. Here the idea is to settle at least four cities yourself. What you decide to after that is obviously up to you. The map offers some early surprises but your initial land is very good and you should be able to take full advantage of it. Sail with Harald on this easy and positive journey through time. What will you do? Kill them all or amaze the world with your culture or science. You can´t go wrong here. Have fun!
     

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    The obvious choice for OECG#15 was Liberty, but because Copenhagen had no access to fresh water I went Tradition instead to unlock Hanging Gardens, then really focused on cranking out settlers and just enough military units to escort them. I settled 5 cities; the 5th was mainly just to keep someone (probably Portugal) from putting a city in the middle of my little empire and cutting off land access to my southern city. I was going for a science victory and was almost there but because I had resurrected one of the AI's and had taken control of the world congress, I was setup for a diplomatic victory when the world leader vote came around. So I bribed a couple of the remaining CSs and went for it.

    Tradition, Exploration, Rationalism, Freedom.
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    20201203004755_1.jpg Early in the game, I declared war on Portugal to keep her from beating me to where Ribe is now located. (I had a scout fortified near Kaupang blocking that isthmus but she researched Optic quite early and embarked her settlers) I stole 3 settlers before finally making peace. She never totally recovered from that, but we were friendly after a time, and she's the AI that I resurrected after she was conquered by France.
    Casimir built Terracotta Army, and right after that he got froggy; declared war and attacked Aarhus. That didn't work so well for him. After I wiped out his shiny new army, he gave me Krakow in the peace deal. Much later, I declared war and took Warsaw. (I probably should have annexed Warsaw)

    See all those English units in the upper left? I'm at war with France and there's a French outpost there that I'm bombarding with a missile cruiser. I assume Liz is about the declare war on Napoleon and take that city -- fine with me, I was going to raze it.
     
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    OECG#16: 3CC (Three city challenge)

    You get an absolutely fantastic starting position on a map that otherwise offers mostly tundra, ice and barbs. Here the task is to play as the Celts. The level is King and we play on an unmodded Boreal map with Small size and Quick speed and all VCs are enabled and QM and QC are turned on as usual. Here the idea is to settle three cities yourself - not more and not less. On top of that you are allowed to conquer AI cities but then you need to burn them to the ground. You can go for any peaceful VC but the game is designed for a CV. As a hint the vicinity of Sydney is more valuable than what meets the eye at first glance. Some of the AIs will struggle with these harsh conditions but I am sure the Celts will emerge supreme. As a benchmark it took me 164 turns to win. Can you do it faster? Enjoy this rare ride!
     

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    Salt and marble and sheep (on a hill) and wheat. And fresh water. That looks pretty good!

    If you capture an AI capital I guess you're supposed to sell it?
     
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    That was my thinking. There is only one that is close enough to bother with such an operation. And then, who would pay enough for the city?
     
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    I thought Attila might give me open borders and a little gold for it, then I'd have a place to send him a trade route. But I didn't have to go there; no wars at all.

    CV on turn 196. I probably could have shaved a few turns off of that if I'd managed my theming bonuses better. I was friends with everybody, even tho' they hated each other. (having by far the strongest military but only using it against barbarians helps with that) I think I'm the only one who picked an ideology (Order) If I just one more turn they will start backstabbing me soon when a few go Freedom and Autocracy.
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    I’m playing OECG 13 Spain. Another fun game. This one went in a totally different direction than I originally expected. I'm on turn 206 now.

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    When I saw all of those mountains that I decided to go for two cities in my little corner and Tradition. After I got NC I realized there was some sweet land to the west of the mountains that the Ai had not settled. So I cranked out a couple of settlers and founded two new cities.

    I still planed on playing a peaceful game but then Rome started spamming cities. And when he built a city 4 tiles from Seville, stealing a lux and a wheat, it was too much so I started building an army. Cesar was first in soldiers so I knew I couldn’t take him myself but everyone hated Cesar because he destroyed the Inca. I tried to get Portugal and Carthage to join in the war. Maria said no but Dido said give me 10 turns. I did not want to wait that long so I signed defensive pact with both of them and tried to goad Rome into attacking me. He would not bite and I had him in a good position for first strike so I attacked.

    I had XB and Tercios while Cesar only had long swords, so I was able to fight off his first wave. My city state ally took the brunt of his wrath and was captured. Dido joined in the war a few turns later. I was going to stop with just taking a few cities but then I realized Rome had Petra. So I continued on; Dido took the north and I took the south and Cesar ended with only one city left.

    I now had a big army and many cities. I was also close to the Portuguese capital all so I decided to go for domination. I was preparing to attack Portugal when France and Maria DoW Morocco. I couldn’t let them capture Marrakech so I had to swing my army around Portugal to get Ahmad first. I took it fairly easily and now I’m ready to attack the next target.

    I debated whether to attack France first because Maria has Great War bombers. It would be too much trouble to take Paris now though because Portuguese territory is kind of in the way. I’m a couple of turns away from antiaircraft so I’m going to wait a few turns then attack Maria. This will be a tough fight but I do have one advantage; I’ve had Barcelona cranking out Frigates with Range for a while. And that’s where it stands now.

    Spoiler T102 :
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    Spoiler T206 About to attack Portugal :
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    OECG#17: Typically Terra

    This is a bit more difficult. We play as the Ottomans. The level is Emperor and we play on an unmodded Terra map with Small size and Quick speed and all VCs are enabled and QM and QC are turned on as usual. As usually, this map type offers limited expansion possibilities early on, but after researching Astronomy your settling possibilities are more or less limitless. Get your settlers out fast, if you intend to build some. The space around you will vanish quit fast. As a benchmark, I more or less took an OCC approach. Thankfully, conquering cities is easy on this level. I didn´t bother with settling the new world at all. Instead I reached a CV on t206 with three cities only. But if you want to, you can go in a totally different direction. Maybe ICS would be fun here? Enjoy the ride whatever you decide to do!
     

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    Science victory on turn 283. Tradition, Exploration, Rationalism, Autocracy, Aesthetics opener, then started working on Commerce. I settled 4 cities and captured 2 Ai cities; razed one and kept the other.
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    The lack of iron and horses was annoying. I don't know how Arabia built camel archers, because I didn't see that they had any horses either. I settled Bursa just to secure a little bit of oil, and I took Autocracy in part just to mix things up a little but also for the tenet that doubles your strategic resources.
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    I founded a religion, but Islam had so much religious pressure it overwhelmed all my cities, including my holy city; no missionaries or prophets needed. I could have bought a couple of great prophets and converted my cities and a few surrounding CS's but Islam was the world religion so I just rolled with it. I did zap Mecca and removed its holy city status; I wonder if I hadn't done that if I would have received the tourism boost for the holy city once Arabia was dead? (wiped out by Morocco, not me) I may "just one more turn" now and declare war on Morocco, although I just finished building the Pentagon and now I need to upgrade those elephants, artillery, and ships first. Even with all those obsolete units we are about evenly matched in military strength. My entire air force at the moment is just one atomic bomb stationed in Mecca
     
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    OECG#18: Forest and jungle everywhere

    This was surprisingly fun on a map template I rarely use. We play as Brazil. The level is King and we play on an unmodded Arborea map with Standard size and Quick speed and all VCs are enabled and QM and QC are turned on as usual. As usually, the start is a little slow on this map typ, but I am sure that you will like your land a little later in the game. I enjoyed my journey, ending in a CV on t200. With this civ, I hope that you follow in my footsteps, but obviously you can do something totally different if you want to. Enjoy!
     

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    OECG#19: No time for diplomacy

    I hope that you will enjoy #18 at some later point because Brazil is just that good on maps like that. In the meanwhile, I present something totally different: We play as the Huns on an unmodded Pangaea map with Large size and Quick speed and all VCs, except for Diplomacy, are enabled and QM and QC are turned on as usual. The difficulty level is Emperor. Attila and Salt is a good combination for any game. Here you can go on the offensive very early on, if you want to. Or you can do as I did and play them to a CV. I finished on t203 but there is potential for much more. Which route will you take, the sword or the pen? Enjoy!
     

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