Own1 My First Hosted SG!!
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.Stopped playing after 2 turns as a German spearman entered our territory 
. Germany as the first civ to war with is quite ugly. Traded wheel for warrior code to enable us to research HBR next and declared war.
I like to have some opinions. We have 3 warriors now and I would switch Salamanca from settler to Archer which would be available next turn without wasting shields. The spearman can reach Salamanca in 3 turns. What is the best to do now ? I would try to intercept the spearman, but we could lose our Archer and warrior. Poprush another Archer after the first one ?
. Germany as the first civ to war with is quite ugly. Traded wheel for warrior code to enable us to research HBR next and declared war.I like to have some opinions. We have 3 warriors now and I would switch Salamanca from settler to Archer which would be available next turn without wasting shields. The spearman can reach Salamanca in 3 turns. What is the best to do now ? I would try to intercept the spearman, but we could lose our Archer and warrior. Poprush another Archer after the first one ?
madviking
north american scum
markh- did you play?
Poprushing may be neccesary to keep city from getting to size 7, emptying our granary. If it takes same pop as warrior, then pop rush an archer. Try to get him before he pillages, as we aren't industrious and need to save our terrain improvements.
Here's my log :
2950BC : Salamanca build warrior -> Settler
2900BC : Worker mines bg
2850BC : Learned the Wheel -> Warrior Code
German Spearman walks in : Trade : Give : The Wheel, Get Warrior Code
Declare war
Research set to HBR for mounties
Germany is up Bronze Working and Ceremonial Burial
Salamanca switched to Archer -> due in 1 turn without wasting shields
1 warrior moved to worker as defence
2800BC : German spear retreats NW
Salamanca builds archer -> settler
2750BC : German spear retreats north out of view
2710BC : zzzz
2670BC : Salamanca builds settler -> archer
2630BC : zzzz
2590BC : zzzz
2550BC : Salamanca builds archer -> settler
Niagara Falls founded -> Archer
Would have wished another civ contacting us first than Germany. With spears and archers from the beginning Bismarck can get a real pain. Hopefully he is not too near.
Maybe it is better to switch to Bronze working for spears, but I would go the risk having HBR sooner and trade for bronze working with the next civ. Horses are not in sight, yet. More exploration for contacts has to be done now. It is still early in the game and Bismarck cannot have too many units at this stage as he is in settling phase as we are, so offensive defense (sorry for my English) with archers could be ok for the time being.
Here is the save.
2950BC : Salamanca build warrior -> Settler
2900BC : Worker mines bg
2850BC : Learned the Wheel -> Warrior Code
German Spearman walks in : Trade : Give : The Wheel, Get Warrior Code
Declare war
Research set to HBR for mounties
Germany is up Bronze Working and Ceremonial Burial
Salamanca switched to Archer -> due in 1 turn without wasting shields
1 warrior moved to worker as defence
2800BC : German spear retreats NW
Salamanca builds archer -> settler
2750BC : German spear retreats north out of view
2710BC : zzzz
2670BC : Salamanca builds settler -> archer
2630BC : zzzz
2590BC : zzzz
2550BC : Salamanca builds archer -> settler
Niagara Falls founded -> Archer
Would have wished another civ contacting us first than Germany. With spears and archers from the beginning Bismarck can get a real pain. Hopefully he is not too near.
Maybe it is better to switch to Bronze working for spears, but I would go the risk having HBR sooner and trade for bronze working with the next civ. Horses are not in sight, yet. More exploration for contacts has to be done now. It is still early in the game and Bismarck cannot have too many units at this stage as he is in settling phase as we are, so offensive defense (sorry for my English) with archers could be ok for the time being.
Here is the save.
madviking
north american scum
OK NOW I GOT IT!!!
play soon
play soon
madviking
north american scum
Oops! I got so many SGs going, post in an hour (geez, i was at school)
madviking
north american scum
0- good
1- meh
2- Salamanca settler -> settler, spot german archer
Ibt: archer dies
3- archer dies!
4- Meh
5- Make Grand River, see horses SW
6- Sala. Settler -> settler
7- NF arch -> arch
8- ARCHER DIES!!
Ibt: arch/spear unit comes N of NF
9- Sala settler -> arch, GR war. -> arch
10- Make Alleghany (horses!)
SAVE
1- meh
2- Salamanca settler -> settler, spot german archer
Ibt: archer dies
3- archer dies!
4- Meh
5- Make Grand River, see horses SW
6- Sala. Settler -> settler
7- NF arch -> arch
8- ARCHER DIES!!
Ibt: arch/spear unit comes N of NF
9- Sala settler -> arch, GR war. -> arch
10- Make Alleghany (horses!)
SAVE
Lullaby
peaceful builder
Got it, play tomorrow.
Lullaby
peaceful builder
Turn 0, 2070 BC:
Set lux tax to 10% and science to 40%, HBR still in 1.
We need to hook up the horses ASAP.
IBT:
HBR in, research CB at 80% in 5. Aim is to research Monarchy at full speed.
Niagara Falls archer -> archer
Turn 1, 2030 BC:
...
IBT:
two german vet archers appearing.
Salamanca archer -> archer
Turn 2, 1990 BC:
Found Cattagaurus at the mouth of the Salamanca River. Production set to archer.
Lux to 20%, science to 70%, CB in 4.
IBT:
Germans closing in on Niagara Falls.
Turn 3, 1950 BC:
Hurry Archer at Niagara Falls.
IBT:
Our Warrior kills two german archers before he is killed by the third one.
Niagara Falls archer -> barracks.
Turn 4, 1910 BC:
We lose an archer trying to kill the remaining german archer, but the second archer wins and promotes to veteran.
IBT:
German spear destroys road at Niagara Falls.
Salamanca archer -> settler.
Lux to 30%
Turn 5, 1870 BC:
...
IBT:
CB in, research Myst in 11.
Grand River archer -> barracks
Turn 6, 1830 BC:
We lose a reg archer trying to kill the german spear but the next archer wins and promotes to vet.
Turn 7, 1790 BC:
...
IBT:
Salamanca settler -> worker
Turn 8, 1750 BC:
Lower Lux, raise science, Myst in 6.
IBT:
Two german vet archers approaching from the north.
Turn 9, 1725 BC:
I move our three archers against them.
IBT:
Salamanca worker -> worker. To be changed, but we could need another one.
Allegheny warrior -> barracks.
Niagara Falls riots because I sent all troops out.
Turn 10, 1700 BC:
We lose one vet archer to a german vet archer, but kill both german archers.
Raise lux to 30%. This has to be readjusted next turn.
Suggestions:
Whip the barracks in Grand River the next turn. Vet archers will be quite a gain.
Salamanca is at 4 shields right now. This will be 8 shields in 2 turns plus 2 shields at growth. So Salamanca will produce the worker in 2 turns. If you don't want to build a third worker (I suggest you do. We have many BG to improve), this has to be readjusted.
Lower Lux back to 20% after the archers have moved back into Niagara Falls.
THE SAVE
Set lux tax to 10% and science to 40%, HBR still in 1.
We need to hook up the horses ASAP.
IBT:
HBR in, research CB at 80% in 5. Aim is to research Monarchy at full speed.
Niagara Falls archer -> archer
Turn 1, 2030 BC:
...
IBT:
two german vet archers appearing.
Salamanca archer -> archer
Turn 2, 1990 BC:
Found Cattagaurus at the mouth of the Salamanca River. Production set to archer.
Lux to 20%, science to 70%, CB in 4.
IBT:
Germans closing in on Niagara Falls.
Turn 3, 1950 BC:
Hurry Archer at Niagara Falls.
IBT:
Our Warrior kills two german archers before he is killed by the third one.
Niagara Falls archer -> barracks.
Turn 4, 1910 BC:
We lose an archer trying to kill the remaining german archer, but the second archer wins and promotes to veteran.
IBT:
German spear destroys road at Niagara Falls.
Salamanca archer -> settler.
Lux to 30%
Turn 5, 1870 BC:
...
IBT:
CB in, research Myst in 11.
Grand River archer -> barracks
Turn 6, 1830 BC:
We lose a reg archer trying to kill the german spear but the next archer wins and promotes to vet.
Turn 7, 1790 BC:
...
IBT:
Salamanca settler -> worker
Turn 8, 1750 BC:
Lower Lux, raise science, Myst in 6.
IBT:
Two german vet archers approaching from the north.
Turn 9, 1725 BC:
I move our three archers against them.
IBT:
Salamanca worker -> worker. To be changed, but we could need another one.
Allegheny warrior -> barracks.
Niagara Falls riots because I sent all troops out.
Turn 10, 1700 BC:
We lose one vet archer to a german vet archer, but kill both german archers.
Raise lux to 30%. This has to be readjusted next turn.
Suggestions:
Whip the barracks in Grand River the next turn. Vet archers will be quite a gain.
Salamanca is at 4 shields right now. This will be 8 shields in 2 turns plus 2 shields at growth. So Salamanca will produce the worker in 2 turns. If you don't want to build a third worker (I suggest you do. We have many BG to improve), this has to be readjusted.
Lower Lux back to 20% after the archers have moved back into Niagara Falls.
THE SAVE
Here is my log :
End of 1700BC : lux up 40%
IBT: German Archer appears at Niagara Falls
Cataaugus completes worker -> barracks
1675BC : Archer back to Niagara Falls
Archer kills German archer
lux back to 20%
IBT: Salamanca completes worker -> barracks
1650BC : only some mm
1625BC : Oil Springs founded -> worker
1600BC : lux up to 30%
science back to 40%
IBT: Mysticism learned -> Bronze working
science up to 70%
1575BC : Grand River completes barracks -> archer
1550BC : only some mm
IBT : Salamanca completes barracks -> settler
Niagara Falls completes barracks -> archer
1525BC : lux up to 40%
1500BC : only some mm
IBT : 2 German Archers appear at Niagara Falls
1475BC : Grand River completes archer -> archer
some units shifting
lux up to 50%
IBT : Salamanca completes settler -> archer
Niagara Falls completes archer -> archer
Allegheny completes worker -> worker
1450BC : archer kills German archer
archer loses against German archer
archer kills German archer
science back to 30%
lux back to 40%
horses will be connected in 3. Do we want our golden age this early or continue fighting Germany with archers ? As long as he sends some archers only it is no problem. We should build some spears for defense and we need more workers. We have a neighbour near allegheny. We should get in contact and see what we can trade. I had no units left to send one over.
Here is the save
End of 1700BC : lux up 40%
IBT: German Archer appears at Niagara Falls
Cataaugus completes worker -> barracks
1675BC : Archer back to Niagara Falls
Archer kills German archer
lux back to 20%
IBT: Salamanca completes worker -> barracks
1650BC : only some mm
1625BC : Oil Springs founded -> worker
1600BC : lux up to 30%
science back to 40%
IBT: Mysticism learned -> Bronze working
science up to 70%
1575BC : Grand River completes barracks -> archer
1550BC : only some mm
IBT : Salamanca completes barracks -> settler
Niagara Falls completes barracks -> archer
1525BC : lux up to 40%
1500BC : only some mm
IBT : 2 German Archers appear at Niagara Falls
1475BC : Grand River completes archer -> archer
some units shifting
lux up to 50%
IBT : Salamanca completes settler -> archer
Niagara Falls completes archer -> archer
Allegheny completes worker -> worker
1450BC : archer kills German archer
archer loses against German archer
archer kills German archer
science back to 30%
lux back to 40%
horses will be connected in 3. Do we want our golden age this early or continue fighting Germany with archers ? As long as he sends some archers only it is no problem. We should build some spears for defense and we need more workers. We have a neighbour near allegheny. We should get in contact and see what we can trade. I had no units left to send one over.
Here is the save
madviking
north american scum
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