P239-1: Friendly game of conquest/domination

[Pragma]

50AD
Fortify Spear. Gonna start moving the troops south.

70AD
Going to amass some immortals at Washington. Settler moving to the SE tip.

90AD
Begin Temple at Persepolis. Fortify more spear at choakpoints. Aiming for 5 at each city atm.

130AD
Continue improvements. Now have 4 immortal at Washington and 3 at New York. Will fortify NY with spears soon. A question though, how do you best deal with corruption? Also, is the unit cost based on how many total units you have? Are units weighted differently?

150AD
Travelin...

170AD
See movement outside Susa. Continue improvements.

190AD
(IT) Begin Literature.

210AD
zzzzz

230AD
Begin Marketplace at Persepolis.

250AD
Haamadan founded.

260AD
Make Peace with Aztec
Are now 7 immortal at Washington with another 3 in New York. Two more in route.

 

[Plutonium239]

Originally posted by Pragma
A question though, how do you best deal with corruption? Also, is the unit cost based on how many total units you have? Are units weighted differently

A city's corruption is based on it's distance to the Palace (or Forbidden Palace) and the number of cities that are closer to the Palace/FP than it is. Past the Optimal City Number cities experience drastically increased corruption. OCN is 14 on a small map such as ours.

You can decrease corruption by connecting a city to the capitol, by building a courthouse and later a police station, and by building the Forbidden Palace (which doubles the OCN and counts as a second Palace when calculating corruption).

Government types also affect corruption. Republic is the second least corrupt government after Democracy.

We Love the 'King' Day reduces waste (lost shields) but not corruption (lost commerce). WLTKD occurs when a city is at least size 6, has no unhappy citizens, and has at least as many happy citizens as content citizens.

Except WLTKD the aforementioned methods of reducing corruption apply to both corruption and waste.

Unit upkeep is 1 gold per unit per turn regardless of the type of unit. Some government types allow some freely supported units per city. Despotism gives 4 free units per town of any size. Monarchy and Communism give 2 free per town, 4 free per city, and 8 free per metropolis. Republic and Democracy support no free units.

 

[Plutonium239]

Plutonium239
Pragma
Coroner -> up now

 

[Coroner]

got it

 

[Coroner]

270 -

Literature finished. Polytheism started.
Continue advancing towards south.

280 -

ZZZZZ

290 -

Susa builds galley.
Culteral infuluence expands.
4 Immortals & 2 Spear in NY.
Road developments toward new towns to north underway.

300 -

ZZZZZ

310 -

Pasargardae finished Marketplace. Started great library.
Antioch finished temple. Started Spear.
Net gain dropped to -6. Changed science to 30 for +3.

320 -

Iroquios offer Polytheism for 19 gold. 1 turn from having it on our own, denied Hiawatha.
Polytheism finshed. Started Feudalism 23 turns.
Discoveries of our Wise men led to new era of prosperity.
Science advisor informs we have mastered monotheism.
Arbela builds immortal.

330 -

Disease strikes Taursus.
Persepolis finished marketplace. Started pyramids.

340 -

Susa builds galley.
Workers on roadwork.

350 -

Boston builds immortal.
Cultural infuluence expands.

360 -

Washington has 7 immortals. NY has 7 immortals. Stage is almost set to advance on Iroquois. They are our biggest rival at this point.

 

[Plutonium239]

Got it.

 

[Plutonium239]

Pre-turn
Changed Sidon from spear to barracks. I'd rather get vet spears and Sidon can build a barracks from scratch in 10. Changed Boston from Immortals to barracks, a single immortal will take them 2/3 the time to build a barracks. Pasagardae has a barracks and I don't usually worry to much about ancient age wonders, so I switch it from Great Library to temple since it will finish quickly and then Pasa can make troops. I established embassies to check on wonder production and we can't compete for the pyramids or the great library. Persepolis changed to Colossus. Changed Washington from Temple to Barracks.

The Iroquois have a weak military (according to military advisor) but they are somewhat large. I unfortify our 2 stacks of 7 immortals each and start moving on the Iroquois, declaring war before entering their territory.

I'd love to get the FP going but with our territory covered in jungle (but slowly clearing) we could really use a Leader to rush it.

1) 370AD
Washington barracks->courthouse, 2 workers start chopping forests to speed it along. I had 2 settlers building last time but we have only founded 1 new city and we have no settlers. Did one get killed or something? I'll fill that empty coastal area soon as a city frees up, most of the nearby cities would waste shields if switched to settler. 1 Immortal dies taking Grand River. Grand River misses the third and final chokepoint sealing our initial landmass by 1 tile. Abandon Grand River. Hopefully we can get a settler out of Salamanca quickly and re-settle on the chokepoint.

2) 380AD
Mau Chunk was built on a hill, costing us 2 immortals to take it, size 1 autoraze, captured a worker.

3) 390AD
(IT) Iroqouis re-settle Grand River on the other side of the choke.

4) 400AD
erm, forgot about the log last turn. Grand River autorazed, again. Washington changed from courthouse to settler.
(IT) Iroquois land a surprise naval invasion...right next to 4 immortals.

5) 410AD
OMG it was an archer/settler, we get 2 slaves and a Great Leader!!! New York will be our FP, headed there now.

6) 420AD
New York changed from settler to FP, due in 185. Leader arrives, FP due in 1.

7) 430AD
FP built!

8) 440AD
Salamanca and with it the Oracle captured.

9) 450AD

10) 460AD
Settler moved to tile he should settle for chokepoint, we are advancing beyond this point but sealing our main body of land would be great.

Synopsis
I checked on the Iroquois; they have nothing to offer for peace. We should fill out our main land with settlers (see dotmap below) and continue to grind the Iroquois into the ground.

 

[Plutonium239]

One last city in the northeastern part of our land.

This is the southern coast of our sub continent.

 

[Plutonium239]

The Save

Plutonium239
Pragma -> up now
Coroner -> on deck


Newcomers to the game are welcome.

 

[Pragma]

1) 470AD

Ergili founded at last choakpoint for our side of the continent.
Cattaraugus falls..loose 1 immortal. Raze city and get 2 more workers.
Savages destroyed SE of NY
(IT) Finish Feudalism - Start Engineering

2) 480AD
Continue clearing forest. Consolidate immortals at Salamanca. Start settler.

3) 490AD
Niagara Falls 'falls'
Continue deforestaton-Shoot wooden bullets at hippies who try and protest.

4) 500AD
Science to 60% - Eng in 5 (Break Even)
Oil Springs falls.

5) 510AD
(IT) People admire us..begin more palace renovations.

6) 520AD
zzzz

7) 530AD
Kabir founded
Axtec have boat off coast looking to land near Anitoch

8) 540AD
Aztec land spear and settler...Declare war. Get a worker.

9) 550AD
Attack archer outside St.Regis and get leader! Bloody battle for St. Regis and loose 1 immortal.

10) 560AD
Attacked by savages and loose worker. Loose another immortal at the battle for Grand River. City destroyed. Leader at Niagara Falls.

 

[Plutonium239]

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[Coroner]

560 Start -

570 -

Build Army - Cyrus.

580 -

Continue forest clearing.
Changed courthouse to art of war - Arbela.

590 -

Changed courthouse to cathedral - Persepolis.
Changed settler to temple - NY.

600 -

WTH is with the fortresses?
Do we want invasions?

610 -

We are admired - Palace expansion trees
Jungle....
Settlers almost in positions.

620 -

Jungle ... will it ever end?

630 -

Founded Dariush Kabir in north.
Amassing troops in south.

640 -

Call for peace treaty between Aztecs.
Aztecs moved in and built city right after treaty. Will hold off till its built up some before taking it.

650 -

Attacked barbarians near last city position.
Attacked iroqois near south city.

660 -

Troops being moved to south will advance on iroqois soon.
Aztecs next in line.


The Save

 

[Plutonium239]

Pre-turn
Fortresses are great when you plan to have a defensive force hang out on a tile for the rest of the game. Building a fortress right next to a city would be good if you're blocking a 2 tile chokepoint. Building a fortress right next to a city in the open has no value except to the enemy.

Change Suz Tzu's to Sistine, now that we have the tech for it. Changed Immortal production to horse. I'm going to research chivalry next so we will be able to upgrade those horse to knights and later cavalry.

1) 670AD
Mass upgrade spears. 16 of 28 were in towns with barracks. We could try to hold off on further upgrades until Leo's is built, but whatever works best. Ghulaman founded. Our sub-continent is fully settled.
(IT) The babs just showed up at the Iroquois border with a settler/spear pair. I'm very tempted to capture the troublemaker before he goes any farther.

2) 680AD
(IT) Bab's settler/spear pair moves into our territory and a settler/warrior pair shows up!

3) 690AD
I demand Hammy withdraws. He agrees. We'll see. If they don't turn right around we get 4 slave workers.
(IT) Hammy is a stinkin liar. He just keeps moving right through our territory.

4) 700AD
I demanded the troops be removed and Hammy declares war on us. 4 Babylonians taken into slavery. Hammy doesn't want us to destroy the Aztecs first. He would prefer to be crushed under our heels right away. Lone Iroquois archer killed.

5) 710AD
Alleghany falls to the inexorable Persian advance. Maximize cash for invention in 1.

6) 720AD
Chivalry in 5.
(IT) God the AI is so obnoxious- now the Aztecs have an archer/settler pair headed to our new area. It's fully settled. We have an active treaty with them so I don't want to attack before that runs out.

7) 730AD

8) 740AD

9) 750AD
Tonawanda falls. The Iroquois have only 1 city now and it's on an island. The Iroquois give us Monarchy, their world map, and their treasury of 12 gold for peace. Babylon is about twice the size of the Aztecs. I think we should crush Babylon before the Aztecs. Chivalry in 2, turned down science to the min to still get Chivalry in 2.

Synopsis
I'm going to stop on my ninth turn since it's a nice round year. We have a good number of horse built and are building more. Leo's is being built. Once that finishes upgrade everyone. Finish improving our capitol since it can work more tiles than are improved.


The Save

 

[Pragma]

750AD

760AD
Start consolidating immortals for attack on the Babalonians. Workers continue improvements.
(IT) Begin research on gunpowder. Antioch celebrates!

770AD
Troops cross into Babalonian territory.

790AD
Attack Babs, get a leader!

800AD
Nineveh is 'liberated' and get 1 gold. Razed the city.

810AD
zzzz
(IT) Aztec trying to build a city on southern tip. Aztec complete Lighthouse.

820AD
Troops are at Babylon's walls.
(IT) Trade world maps with Aztec in a friendly gesture. Finish gunpowder and begin Chemistry.

830AD
Babylon falls and new governor installed. Aztec founds city south of Salamanca. Leaving it alone for now. The Aztec will feel our ire soon enough.
(IT)We are admired and a new second story is added to the palace.

840AD
zzzzz

850AD
Akkad falls and is razed. Loose 2 units attacking Ashur..wait for backup from troops attacking Ur.

Expansion continues with no unit loss until the Babylon dogs rallied at Ashur. Knights in route and there are still plenty of units active to finish off the Babs. Thats about it. End of line.

 

[Plutonium239]

Wow, 3 leaders already!!! That's amazing.

Why did we raze those towns? Was it an autoraze or bad city placement?

Coroner, you're up next.

 

[Pragma]

One autoraze'd and I didn't especially care for the placement of the other. Figured we pretty much have them on the run anyway.

 

[Coroner]

got it
will play this eve for sure.

 

[Coroner]

850 -

860 (1)-

Antioch finishes library.
Ur falls, liberated 1 gold. Installed gov.
Moving in on Ashur and Ellipi.

870 (2)-

Aztecs offer right of passage, deal may be cancelled peacefully after 20 turns???
Forget it Monte.
Boston finishes marketplace.
Level 3 added to our Palace we are loved.

880 (3)-

Attack continues...

890 (4)-

Chemistry completed. Started Education 5 turns.
Bactra finishes aqueduct.
Ashur falls, liberated 2 gold. Installed gov.
1 Immortal lost in attack in Ellipi.

900 (5)-

Samaria finishes walls.

910 (6)-

NY finishes marketplace.
3 troops lost in fight on Ellipi.
Babylon calls for peace treaty. We are in this far with em I refused.
The ppl love us - more palace expansion. Dome added.

920 (7)-

Another troop lost in battle for Ellipi.
Education completed. Started Astronomy 6 turns.
Sardis finishes temple.

930 (8)-

Another troop falls in fight on Ellipi.

940 (9)-

zzzzzzzzzz

950 (10)-

Gordium finishes temple.
Another troop lost in attack of Ellipi.
More troops enroute, but we may wish to call off the battle for a bit.

 

[Plutonium239]

Got it. I will play tommorrow.