Perpentach's Body

[loocas]

Did Perpentach leave the Palus corporeally or abandon his body? The pedia is ambiguous about that:

Spoiler History :

Perpentach was a master of mind magic, and a favored student of Kylorin. Kylorin was unwilling to kill him, imprisoning him instead in a dungeon in the Palus (the Tower of Eyes), guarded by unthinking golems. But Perpentach was more talented than Kylorin suspected, and was able to send his consciousness out wandering further and further from his prison. Searching, creating illusions and controlling minds miles from the dungeon in a process that strained him to the point of fracturing his mind. But he drew hundreds of men to his prison, made them fight and defeat the golems, release him, and declare him their ruler.

Spoiler Perpentach :

Many of the villagers fell to the assault on the golems. Many had fallen along the way, incapable of the three-day march back to the prison. In the end enough survived to free Perpentach. None were forgotten, however. A great multitude joined the crowd inside his mind, but Perpentach learned there were more ways to survive madness than hiding from it. He embraced it, mastering the minds within his mind, ruling both a small fiefdom far from Kylorin’s fire, and a grand multitude in the courts inside his mind.

I understand it as Perpentach escaping into the minds of the people as the stress of the battle weakens them, and he leaves his current body (which is Number We-Will-Never-Know) in the tower. However, Kael said this at one point long ago:

Spoiler Deep within the forums :

Leader Backgrounds (Amurites)

Perpentach was a student of Kylorin in the Age of Magic, he specilized in mind magic. When the civil started in Patria he fought against Kylorins rebellion eventually battling Kylorin himself. Kylorin beat him, but rather than kill his former apprentice he imprisoned him in a dungeon deep in a swamp and guarded by golems.

But Perpentach was more powerful than Kylorin suspected and he let his consciousness float out further and further. Miles away from his prison he found a village of people that were being visited by a traveling carnival. He lead them, through suggestion and illusions through the swamp and against the golems. The people saw what they hated most, they were driven on by Perpentachs demands and his hold on them was so strong that many fought well past the point where they should be dead. The voices of some of these remain still in Perpentachs mind.

In the end piles of corpses surrounded the dungeon but they had managed to overwhelm the golems and break Perpentach free. They took him back to their village and installed the very insane mage as their new king.

It suggests that his body escaped, but I'm guessing this was written before any of the pedia entries and may just be a concept (?).

What makes me think that his body stayed behind is the fact that he is called Momus. Momus was another person, and if Perpentach escaped and that head was crowned, why would he still be Momus? Is this just a semantic issue, or is there an answer?

 

[MagisterCultuum]

I don't think it is that clear, but here is what I typically assume:

The process of fully transferring his mind to another body is a complex ritual that requires at least close proximity, if not physical contact. Perpentach was able to dominate some men from afar, but he had to bring The Momus very close in order to use his body as a home for his mind instead of merely a conduit. I think that the vast majority of the Carnies did die in the attempt, but they managed to safely lead The Momus into Perpentach's chamber first. Perpentach's body had been imprisoned for longer than any man of this era could hope to live, and so was on the brink of dying from old age when his new host arrived. The strain of the ritual probably killed his old physical form, assuming he didn't willfully kill it as part of the ritual or because perhaps the enchantments keeping the golems animated were only designed to work so long as Perpentach lived.

 

[Grey Fox]

He could have used the opportunity to leave some of his gathered minds in the old body, if that was possible. (Making his new mind clearer but still a mess)

But I guess that's not something he is able to do.

 

[Kael]

Perpentach mentally dominated his "rescuers" who physically rescued him from the dungeon. It wasn't until later that he moved his conscious into another subjects body (a much more intensive process than simple domination, and Perpentach seems to be our only example so far that is capable of doing it).

 

[cypher132]

Perpentach mentally dominated his "rescuers" who physically rescued him from the dungeon. It wasn't until later that he moved his conscious into another subjects body (a much more intensive process than simple domination, and Perpentach seems to be our only example so far that is capable of doing it).

That's along the lines of what I was thinking.

 

[loocas]

It wasn't until later that he moved his conscious into another subjects body (a much more intensive process than simple domination, and Perpentach seems to be our only example so far that is capable of doing it).

Kinda funny that the domination is the easy part. The part no one else can seem to figure out is how to ditch the pale, chicken-legged mage bodies. Oh woe.

 

[sirWOW]

yeah I kinda already knew perpentach, when he started agging he moves his mind to a new host but I would like to know what becomes of his soul and the soul and mind of his "host".

 

[loocas]

yeah I kinda already knew perpentach, when he started agging he moves his mind to a new host but I would like to know what becomes of his soul and the soul and mind of his "host".

I imagine it's like the head museum in Futurama: Perpentach adds another head to the shelves when he takes a new body. Everyone's crammed in there.

 

[KillerClowns]

I imagine it's like the head museum in Futurama: Perpentach adds another head to the shelves when he takes a new body. Everyone's crammed in there.

Give up your body to Perpentach: guranteed immortality. Pity about the unfortunate side-effects... I wonder how many bodies he managed to steal by actually promising immortality, and not mentioning they'd have to share?

 

[Grey Fox]

Consider the amount of minds he has stolen accidentally!

 

[cypher132]

I bet he could have on hell of an argument in his head. Could you imagine how many voices there would be and how many different conversations. You could be a genius.

 

[Darksaber1]

If you could be The Many to stop kurking-well talking over each other

 

[.Arawyn.]

I bet he could have on hell of an argument in his head. Could you imagine how many voices there would be and how many different conversations. You could be a genius.

heh heh, thats what the inside of my head is like!

But your right about the genius. Perp is one.

 

[[to_xp]Gekko]

careful with necroing, the Overcouncil will be at your doorstep soon