Great Lighthouse is fine by me. I was thinking of Libraries for all running some mucho-scientisto's on our cities, but either way . . . we can go with the consensus on that [translation: next time you all post, give us your thoughts pls and ty] @ pin: i like A from dot map 2, and the pink city in both (D & C) ~ looks like two great production cities. but, i think the sheep and fish should be split into two smaller, commerce/science cities. hmmm...or do sheep give you hammers, not food?? don't remember . . . @ beserks ~ that's fine ~ ph15 will finish my Specialist Economy mini-series i began months and months ago...one capital and one city per specialist i'll reserve a spot for you and ozzie. @ pigs ~ welcome aboard, phriend ~ and last but not least, @ Diamond: it's saladin if i remember correctly. i determined the opponents beforehand with a deck of cards (the best random leader and opponent generator around), though i can't remember them all. seem to recall hammy, hatty, qin, kubey, sally, and i guess 2 others.