Isn't it better to get two settlers out quickly and get both of those cities started?. I'm not fearing to lose Pyramids that quickly, we should be able to get it with stone quite easily.
PH15: Every One is Special
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Isn't it better to get two settlers out quickly and get both of those cities started?. I'm not fearing to lose Pyramids that quickly, we should be able to get it with stone quite easily.
Agree, we'll need a city a the stone site anyway for the quarry, because we won't want to wait for Athens' borders to pop twice before that.
So getting 2 settlers and 1 or 2 workers out quickly now will be important. Getting a lighthouse in Athens rather soonish after that would be nice. The 3 extra food will be great for subsequent settler and worker pumping.
r_rolo1
King of myself
it looks that is complicated to get a dot map in here
Mr pig-that-will-fly and mr-teacher-that-throws-crazy-variants-to-the-air-and-expects-that-the-others-get-a-way-of-fullfilling-them
know, I'm extremely adverse to making dotmaps. Will respectly wait for some consensus on this, since it is part of the variant. But don't expect any big help on that particular regard of me
Mr pig-that-will-fly and mr-teacher-that-throws-crazy-variants-to-the-air-and-expects-that-the-others-get-a-way-of-fullfilling-them
know, I'm extremely adverse to making dotmaps. Will respectly wait for some consensus on this, since it is part of the variant. But don't expect any big help on that particular regard of me Forget the respect and let's get this moving again, I'd say!
I think we reached the closest we could to some form of consensus now, so for me you can use your broad experience and gut feeling to act as the tiebreaker on this. Or wait for mr-teacher-that-throws-crazy-variants-to-the-air-and-expects-that-the-others-get-a-way-of-fullfilling-them to untie this knot...
I think we reached the closest we could to some form of consensus now, so for me you can use your broad experience and gut feeling to act as the tiebreaker on this. Or wait for mr-teacher-that-throws-crazy-variants-to-the-air-and-expects-that-the-others-get-a-way-of-fullfilling-them to untie this knot...
r_rolo1
King of myself
I have to play SGOTM today, so I think I can wait more 24 h
Thy_Spellcraft
King
I agree to red going 1SE of marble. But I still think it should become our priest city.. But to make sure we'll get the mids we may settle blue (the engeneer one) even before red.
Agree with this (and I think nocho thinks along the same way), but definitely marble before stone... Oherwise Pacal gets that nice spot under our nose :|
pigswill
fly (one day)
I agree with settling three cities before thinking about wonders. If we're going for that then we're likely to miss out on the first batch of wonders (SH, Gwall, Oracle, ToA) and our first wonder is likely to be Pyramids.
The point I was trying to make is that we should build Pyramids in our most developed city which is likely to be red dot because it's the first one we'll settle.
The point I was trying to make is that we should build Pyramids in our most developed city which is likely to be red dot because it's the first one we'll settle.
pholkhero
Deviant Mind
its basically all about the generated GP-points. We can only generate the city-specific ones ~It might take a while before I get a hang on our ruleset
not just want, though. imho (though really, i did *host* those other SE games...and that was before i disappeared the first time!
) the pyramids will be essential to victory in our game. this won't be like a regular SE where we can run scientists everywhere. We will need the excess science from Representation to compete, esp with only 8 cities.And lo, thy great and oh-so-humble captain, Lord and Mister-teacher-that-throws-crazy-variants-to-the-air-and-expects-that-the-others-get-a-way-of-fullfilling-them speaks:
Thy shalt build 2 settlers and of course 1 worker. And this will be good.
Thy wilt keep a keen eye upon Our rivals; build some more military for defense
Hold on, I've got to pee...
No, don't type that.
Don't type that.
Stop.
dfad;fjda; [typist wins]
Settle 1 SE of Marble and my priests shall worship there. Build me a Temple, but dedicate to . . . Artemis. Yeah, Artemis.
I'm the great and powerful Artemis, that's the ticket.
[sfdiga0w ;lg54ffd
gz
[pholk wins]
And then Blue. Also agree on 3 S of Athens....city 8 i think.
Thy_Spellcraft
King
I'm not sure whether I'm a heretic but there's something hidden within the word of our god I won't get:
vs:
Do I need to understand this?? In case I have to please explain me, how he could build a mercant point producing wonder within our priest city. Or is there some trick preventing the wonder to give us some of them??
pigswill
fly (one day)
Pholkhero is a genius and as such can freely dispense edicts that contradict his eminently sane and sensible rules for the variant.
Rowain deWolf
King
It just shows that pholk is a great teacher in the way of Zen.
So you just have to settle near the marble and build ToA without building it for real and if it happens to look like the Oracle ...then everything is perfect and you reach enlightenment on the path of the hero
r_rolo1
King of myself
Now I am officially Zened
As we are in a build-merchant-GPP-wonder-in-priest-city mood, can we get some cottages too ?
As we are in a build-merchant-GPP-wonder-in-priest-city mood, can we get some cottages too ?
I have noticed in other threads as well that pholk-bashing is a popular sport, but since I'm still pretty new to a SG with him, out of courtesy, I will refrain from that. At least for the time being.
On another note, I suddenly wonder whether the free priest from ToA actually generates GP points. I might be totally mistaken, but I think it might not. Is it not only the hired specialists that generate points? If that's the case ToA would be a valid wonder for the merchant city IMO.
Like with the great library, I think it's just the wonder that generates scientist points, but not the two free scientists themselves. Or do they? So ToA may just generate merchant points by the wonder, but no prophet points for the free prophet. Maybe someone can shed a light on this, otherwise I'll try to test it this evening.
On another note, I suddenly wonder whether the free priest from ToA actually generates GP points. I might be totally mistaken, but I think it might not. Is it not only the hired specialists that generate points? If that's the case ToA would be a valid wonder for the merchant city IMO.
Like with the great library, I think it's just the wonder that generates scientist points, but not the two free scientists themselves. Or do they? So ToA may just generate merchant points by the wonder, but no prophet points for the free prophet. Maybe someone can shed a light on this, otherwise I'll try to test it this evening.
r_rolo1
King of myself
ToA priest acts as a regular specialist, like GL scientists: they generate GPP. I can definitely assure that , since we captured both in the same city in RR3.
Ah, ok, just making sure!
So, rolo, are the Zen instructions clear enough to play a set?
Just in case, I think the Zen translation reads getting 2 settlers out and a worker, settle priest city 1SE of marble and the engineering heaven on blue dot. And if you have to pee in the meanwhile, just don't tell us!
So, rolo, are the Zen instructions clear enough to play a set?
Just in case, I think the Zen translation reads getting 2 settlers out and a worker, settle priest city 1SE of marble and the engineering heaven on blue dot. And if you have to pee in the meanwhile, just don't tell us!
pholkhero
Deviant Mind
FINALLY! SOMEone understands.It just shows that pholk is a great teacher in the way of Zen.
So you just have to settle near the marble and build ToA without building it for real and if it happens to look like the Oracle ...then everything is perfect and you reach enlightenment on the path of the hero
Who will rid me of these tiresome players?!?!
pretty clearly, the TYPIST wants the temple, it is US who does NOT want the temple...uh, duh?
pholkhero
Deviant Mind
and really, nocho, once upon a time I was great and respected player around here ~ that was like, post 4 or 5 i think
and really, nocho, once upon a time I was great and respected player around here ~ that was like, post 4 or 5 i think
Well, I didn't read all of your previous 4600+ posts yet, so till then I'll just assume you're great and respected.
pigswill
fly (one day)
Pholkhero, you are still a great and respected player. It may be that your venerability is tending towards senescence but you are my hero and everything I wish that I could be.
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