Pinochet Common Misconceptions

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Who could resist such a man?

Wow. Stalintastic hair.

Here's a question, was there any south or central american country that didn't get screwed over by America and/or Russia?

I dont think so. But it was USA mostly as Russia had his own backyard in eastern Europe and Asia. In that sense James Monroe was basically a proctologist.

 

[Yeekim]

I read through 9 pages of this thread, hoping to actually learn something... anything.
Oh well... should have known better.

 

[red_elk]

Here's a question, was there any south or central american country that didn't get screwed over by America and/or Russia?

The only place in Americas where Russia/USSR intervened in a meaningful way, was Cuba.

 

[RomanKing]

A true man of honor and defender of freedom. My relatives in Chile thank him every day for his service to our nation.

 

[RomanKing]

 

[Kyriakos]

I read through 9 pages of this thread, hoping to actually learn something... anything.
Oh well... should have known better.

Why, did you already know about Chilean reliance on copper exports, or about the US embargo of machine parts and subsequent break-down of public transport?

Anything to keep scary voted-in Allende out, or render him dead.

Anyway, from videos of Allende's speeches, he comes across as rather benign/temperate imo.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

Why, did you already know about Chilean reliance on copper exports, or about the US embargo of machine parts and subsequent break-down of public transport?

Anything to keep scary voted-in Allende out, or render him dead.

Anyway, from videos of Allende's speeches, he comes across as rather benign/temperate imo.

Without specific details I think that pretty much everyone knows that US intervention against Allende set the stage for the barbaric Pinochet dictatorship.

 

[RomanKing]

Without specific details I think that pretty much everyone knows that US intervention against Allende set the stage for the barbaric Pinochet dictatorship.

The USA was on the right side of history. Pincohet stabilized the country, returned freedom to his people, and then peacefully transferred power back to a newly elected democratic government.

Of course the hard left in the USA hates this. They would prefer Chile to be like Venezuela.

Western university educated communist wanna-be's who have never experienced any real hardship, or threat to their survival shilling for communist tyrants. It's truly pathetic.

 

[Traitorfish]

Somebody actually made this, and then having made this, thought: "this thing I have made, it is a good thing, and it is right and proper that it was made".

The mind boggles.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

If your taste in "stabilizing the country" is mass executions, secret police, and human rights violations I guess they were "on the right side of history."

 

[RomanKing]

@Traitorfish, I'm not sure what you're trying to get at, but your post comes off as being quite racist.

*EDIT* It appears you have edited your post.

 

[RomanKing]

If your taste in "stabilizing the country" is mass executions, secret police, and human rights violations I guess they were "on the right side of history."

Executing war criminals targeting civilians and arresting communist subversives and guerillas isn't a crime.

 

[Traitorfish]

For the puzzled, I originally posted Kanye's Life of Pablo album cover, but thought the implicit commentary, "this is not the pinnacle of graphic design", may have been lost. Not sure why that makes it racist, though.

Executing war criminals targeting civilians and arresting communist subversives and guerillas isn't a crime.

Executing them without trial is.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

@Traitorfish, I'm not sure what you're trying to get at, but your post comes off as being quite racist.

I think what he was trying to get at is that around here wallpapering a post with memes and images is not looked upon with respect so you should probably quit...but maybe that's just my interpretation.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

Executing war criminals targeting civilians and arresting communist subversives and guerillas isn't a crime.

Not if a brutal dictator is making the laws up as suits his whims it isn't anyway.

 

[Traitorfish]

Not if a brutal dictator is making the laws up as suits his whims it isn't anyway.

I suppose the nice thing about being a dictator is you get to make up the law as you go along.

 

[RomanKing]

But, of course Westerners will say that it's OK as long as the Dictator is a Communist, while they enjoy all of the wealth and freedom of their democratic societies and free markets. How pathetic.

 

[Timsup2nothin]

I suppose the nice thing about being a dictator is you get to make up the law as you go along.

And then your sycophants can boast about what a law abiding guy their brutal dictator was.

 

[RomanKing]

"Freedom for me, but not for thee!" Screams, the university educated Westerner, "I love the Hispanics!"

What insane hypocrites.

 

[Traitorfish]

But, of course Westerners will say that it's OK as long as the Dictator is a Communist, while they enjoy all of the wealth and freedom of their democratic societies and free markets.

I mean, the SuperCastro Bros can suck it, too.