Piracy at Poor Country

[Sliver]

to be honest , I Live in Indonesia , where corruption and Piracy evrywhere (and I'm Shy)

but when you want to buy game that cost $50 , YOU have TO work 30days nonstop without EAT and other livinghood stuff
(bcs in my country minimal standard wage is $1,2/days - in my currency about Rp 11.000)

if you wants buy game , you can buy illegal copies (that cost around $0,5!!!)

how about you're opinion?

 

[warpus]

Question: If a game is $50, how much is a computer.. and how can anyone possibly afford that?

Surely if you can afford to buy a computer you can afford to shell out $50 for a video game.

 

[Kozmos]

No, a computer is a one time purchase. That said, I support piracy considerung most software today is nothing but a piece of sheet.

 

[silver 2039]

I agree. In India Rome Total War costs Rs 3,000 thats an average persons monthly salary. Most people can't afford that.

And the similarity of your usernmae to mine disturbs me.

 

[IglooDame]

If you were talking about food, or clothing, or medicine, or educational tools, I'd be sympathetic.

It is a game, which shrinks the ethical/moral dilemma to zero. Stealing is stealing.

 

[Gladi]

Surely if you can afford to buy a computer you can afford to shell out $50 for a video game.

Bright day
Well we don't have the best computer avaible and buy new ever few years. About 20$ a month for my family. In my contry new good games often sell for $70-80. People can than hardly buy new game every month. Though most "piracy" is not done for profit by organised groups, they are just shared between people.

 

[Gladi]

It is a game, which shrinks the ethical/moral dilemma to zero. Stealing is stealing.

But I have right to make back-up copy, right? So how big a crime it is if I were to lend it to m friend, for, unspecified amount of time?

 

[IglooDame]

But I have right to make back-up copy, right? So how big a crime it is if I were to lend it to m friend, for, unspecified amount of time?

Legally? No clue. Morally?

And hey, I'm no less guilty of stuff like this than most other people. All I'm saying is do it or don't do it, but don't try to fool your own conscience.

 

[Masquerouge]

But I have right to make back-up copy, right? So how big a crime it is if I were to lend it to m friend, for, unspecified amount of time?

Nope, back-up copies are for personal use only.

 

[Fugitive Sisyphus]

No, a computer is a one time purchase. That said, I support piracy considerung most software today is nothing but a piece of sheet.

If most software is a "piece of sheet", why do you want it anyway?



Perhaps I am just old-fashioned but I have always been told that stealing is wrong.

 

[cairo140]

But I have right to make back-up copy, right? So how big a crime it is if I were to lend it to m friend, for, unspecified amount of time?

Well, in your case, although it is commonly done, that is the most basic violation of the End User Licensing Agreement. I don't know the specifics for Civilization, but all EULA's specify that it cannot be run simultaneously, never mind the fact that unsolicited copies are illegal anyways.

In any case, if you are able to copy a copy-protected CD and get it to bypass the safedisk check in the first place, I would be very impressed.

To the OP, I say in a country like yours, piracy, although immoral, should be a viable option. Outsourcing from developed countries can be seen as mass theft on a huge scale. So in my mind, saying that extremely poor individuals are wrong to pirate is on the same level as being an anti-globalization hippie.

 

[Kozmos]

lol, conscience

EA= no conscience, why should I bother to have one/

If most software is a "piece of sheet", why do you want it anyway?

You cant tell if it is a 'piece of sheet' until you try it. And guess what, that takes money. And no demos are no good, because they give you a time trial or cut all the important functions.

 

[El_Machinae]

If you were to specifically lend a back up copy to a friend, but your friend was to only use the game as you allowed, then it is certainly fine. For similar reasons, I'm not breaking copyright by lending a book to a friend.

However, if you friend keeps the game after he returns the CD (or worse, distributes it) then you have made a problem. Similarily, if I copy portions of my books and give them away, I'm ruining the intent.

BTW: maybe the country remains poor because of the piracy? It's a circle, you know.

 

[Elrohir]

If you were talking about food, or clothing, or medicine, or educational tools, I'd be sympathetic.

It is a game, which shrinks the ethical/moral dilemma to zero. Stealing is stealing.

Ditto. Computer games, even Civilization are not necessities. You don't have to have them to live, or to live a good life. If inflation and corruption make it so you can't afford them, then I'm very sorry to hear that - but this gives you a personal incentive to go out and support reform that would change those things.

 

[Phlegmak]

to be honest , I Live in Indonesia , where corruption and Piracy evrywhere (and I'm Shy)

but when you want to buy game that cost $50 , YOU have TO work 30days nonstop without EAT and other livinghood stuff
(bcs in my country minimal standard wage is $1,2/days - in my currency about Rp 11.000)

if you wants buy game , you can buy illegal copies (that cost around $0,5!!!)

how about you're opinion?

Don't forget that if you're playing computer games, there are plenty of free games you can play.

 

[Gladi]

Nope, back-up copies are for personal use only.

True, legally. What about when I lend books to my friends? The horrors!

Yes the difference between music\books and movies\video games is that the latter costs lot of real money to make. And then it is same as that joke with intelectual and east coast socialite.

 

[Fugitive Sisyphus]

lol, conscience

EA= no conscience, why should I bother to have one/

By that logic, it is perfectly fine if I rob you since you don't have a conscience. Why should I have a conscience if you don't?

True, legally. What about when I lend books to my friends? The horrors!

Lending a book is not a good analogy. A good analogy would be copying the book and giving it to a friend.

 

[Gladi]

Ditto. Computer games, even Civilization are not necessities. You don't have to have them to live, or to live a good life. If inflation and corruption make it so you can't afford them, then I'm very sorry to hear that - but this gives you a personal incentive to go out and support reform that would change those things.

And people out there doing their best to change the system. By pirating.
Or you mean I should get a rifle and start building barricades for " social freedom, bright future and cheaper vido games"?

 

[Masquerouge]

True, legally. What about when I lend books to my friends? The horrors!

I don't think you lend your friend a COPY of the book. You lend him the original. It would be perfectly fine if you lent the original of your video game to your friend.

 

[Fugitive Sisyphus]

And people out there doing their best to change the system. By pirating.
Or you mean I should get a rifle and start building barricades for " social freedom, bright future and cheaper vido games"?

Except pirating increases the cost of games. With pirating companies have to develop anti-pirating measures (which also annoy honest users). They also do not get money for pirated software.