Piracy at Poor Country

[Gladi]

I don't think you lend your friend a COPY of the book. You lend him the original. It would be perfectly fine if you lent the original of your video game to your friend.

Actually I painstakedly copied D&D Player's Handbook 3ed page by page, twice.

 

[Masquerouge]

Software company Stardock has an interesting take on piracy. Basically their game has no copy protection, you can install as many copies as you want on as many computers as you want, and you don't need the CD to play the game.
The catch, however, is that if you want to get the patches/updates (and they make sure to deliver a lot of them with a lot of contents), then you need to register your copy with the license key on their website...

Their goal is not to stop people pirating their game, because they've realized that this is an arm race where everybody looses, the company for spending money on anti-piracy measures, and the consumer for having to put up with annoying anti-piracy measure. What they want is make their product attractive, so that the increase in customers compensate the number of their product that's going to be pirated.

It worked pretty well (of course, the fact that their game is really good helped ).

 

[Gladi]

Except pirating increases the cost of games. With pirating companies have to develop anti-pirating measures (which also annoy honest users). They also do not get money for pirated software.

Well I got a pirated version of CIV first... and then bought it. Same goes with Sims 2 (and then I lost nightlife "playdisk") and several other games...

Actually I got these games installed right now Port Royale 2 which was lended to me and I don't play, TLJ which I bough and long since lost all five CDs, HoMMV that I got pirated but did not finish campaign and will probably not buy it as I am angry at misuse of M&M name (the "new" universe), Transport Tycoon Deluxe- pirated, CIV which I bought after pirating it, and Imperialism II- pirated too.

My pirate chest has now in it.... ta da dum 10$.

 

[Kozmos]

By that logic, it is perfectly fine if I rob you since you don't have a conscience. Why should I have a conscience if you don't?

Exactly, but that kind of robbery is a high risk and low benefit operation. Therefore it is unlogical. And I wouldnt reccomend robbing me, I am armed. Did you really think someone without a conscience would not have a gun?

 

[skadistic]

There is no justification for commiting a crime when it is not a life or death situation, even if your poor.

 

[Kozmos]

Piracy is a poor man's luxury.

 

[Elrohir]

And people out there doing their best to change the system. By pirating.
Or you mean I should get a rifle and start building barricades for " social freedom, bright future and cheaper vido games"?

Change the system by pirating software? That doesn't make much sense. Neither does the "start building barricades for 'social freedom, bright future and cheaper video games'". That's not what I'm talking about - I'm talking about political reform, or just playing free games, or making sure you buy a good one before spending your money, or getting a better job. Stealling, however, doesn't strike me as the correct answer.

 

[Gladi]

Change the system by pirating software? That doesn't make much sense. Neither does the "start building barricades for 'social freedom, bright future and cheaper video games'". That's not what I'm talking about - I'm talking about political reform, or just playing free games, or making sure you buy a good one before spending your money, or getting a better job. Stealling, however, doesn't strike me as the correct answer.

Sabotage of a society is also a form of protest- though somewhat stupid I agree.

What I was going about is that there is certain cost\benefit dialogue there. Yes I am sorry for the poor developers who chained to their computers are forced by Evil Corporation to churn out new games that I will pirate thus not freeing them from their damnation. No, really I am. And if I have money I buy the games- which leads to lost of derision from people I know. But if in the three options choice of buy\steal\not have it, steal so often wins maybe market is set bit badly too?

No it is not "right" choice. But I still have taken it, will take it .

And btw I do play free games a lot- I cranked up thousands of game hours on shareware Castle of the Winds, far much more than on both Diablos.

 

[warpus]

Bright day
Well we don't have the best computer avaible and buy new ever few years. About 20$ a month for my family. In my contry new good games often sell for $70-80. People can than hardly buy new game every month. Though most "piracy" is not done for profit by organised groups, they are just shared between people.

You haven't answered my question. How much for a new computer?

Would I be wrong to assume that it's $400-$600 for a low-end system, and $2,000+ for the ultimate gaming rig? Or are computers significantly cheaper over there than they are here (north america) ?

A low-end system will not be good enough to play most games anyway.. And if you can afford to buy a good computer, how could you not afford to buy games for it?

 

[Paradigne]

I honstly think it is stealing. Granted the new games out there are $40-50, but in six months you can usually pick them up for $20. Why do you need the new release NOW? I usually wait until the price drops anyway.

 

[Truronian]

Pirates ruin things for everyone else, piracy is selfish to the extreme. Why do I pay £40s for games? Because some cheap sponge has downloaded the game from the internet because he feels that he shouldn't have to pay.

 

[Gladi]

You haven't answered my question. How much for a new computer?

Would I be wrong to assume that it's $400-$600 for a low-end system, and $2,000+ for the ultimate gaming rig? Or are computers significantly cheaper over there than they are here (north america) ?

A low-end system will not be good enough to play most games anyway.. And if you can afford to buy a good computer, how could you not afford to buy games for it?

Three years ago state of art for 1100$ as we have connections . And father needs it for work. And we have no intentions of buying any new (though we would like it) as we simply don't have money to throw at it. (in next year or two)
EDIT: so far per month 30$. ANd I buy game 2-4 times a year.

 

[Stegyre]

to be honest ,

To be honest, you should not steal.

. . . I Live in Indonesia , where corruption and Piracy evrywhere (and I'm Shy)

Point being that if everyone does it must be alright?

. . . but when you want to buy game that cost $50, YOU have TO work 30days nonstop without EAT and other livinghood stuff
(bcs in my country minimal standard wage is $1,2/days - in my currency about Rp 11.000)

Is the ambiguity intentional or inadvertent? Is Sliver part of the unfed, minimum-wage masses? I suspect not. Checking your profile, you’re a 17-year old student with an interest in piano, with access to the internet and a computer capable of playing Civ4 (a reasonably good machine), all indicating something more than a waif-off-the-street background.

. . . how about you're opinion?

Well, I don’t know you and maybe I’m being unduly hasty, but you sound an awful lot like someone trying to use other people’s poverty to justify your own moral lapses.

 

[Gladi]

Pirates ruin things for everyone else, piracy is selfish to the extreme. Why do I pay £40s for games? Because some cheap sponge has downloaded the game from the internet because he feels that he shouldn't have to pay.

SO tell me why should I pay 80?

 

[Tycoon101]

Piracy is illegal. Period. End. Of. Story.

If you wish to rob a company just because you are selfish, then you have no right to even buy the game legally. Obey the law, or the law will FORCE you to obey...

 

[Truronian]

SO tell me why should I pay 80?

Because thats thats its price. If you don't want to pay that much, then dont buy the game, or buy online (direct-to-drive for example).

 

[Dionysius]

aww hell, i never pay when i can avoid it, and ye cant afford it so youre more justified than me. piracy rules.

 

[Tycoon101]

Do you NEED the game? No.

Do you NEED a computer? No.

Do you NEED to pay 80$ for luxury good? No.

Then why should you steal? It is your choice to rob someone of money, you could always get an honest job.

I will not even sympathise with thieves who wish for food, because they are robbing someone of thier money.

(As you can tell, I am not pro-consumer)

 

[Gladi]

Because thats thats its price. If you don't want to pay that much, then dont buy the game, or buy online (direct-to-drive for example).

To buy online I need debit card which is not far from free here. (though I do have it of course)

Really does the market argument flow over everybody's head? I stopped pirating tv series, but still download them; at very reasonable prices (ie I dowloaded them back when I had money).

 

[Fugitive Sisyphus]

I'm going to go steal a car. Do you expect me to actually pay $50,000? Besides BMW is rich.









Yes, that was sarcasm