Piracy at Poor Country

[Gladi]

I'm going to go steal a car. Do you expect me to actually pay $50,000? Besides BMW is rich.

Yes, that was sarcasm

sigh

cost\benefit people cost\benefit...

 

[Fugitive Sisyphus]

sigh

cost\benefit people cost\benefit...

The benefit is very high. I can get a lot of money selling parts from a BMW. If I am smart the cost will be very low.

 

[Hundegesicht]

It's not as if you have to steal in order to have a good time playing games on your computer. keep in mind there are hundreds of thousands, if not millions of freeware/abandonware games out there, many of which I've found to be more enjoyable than games I've had to pay for.

 

[Gladi]

The benefit is very high. I can get a lot of money selling parts from a BMW. If I am smart the cost will be very low.

Yes. And every idiot and his dog can get pirate version of game off internet.

Also I would be less likely because I do not steal for profit nor do I steal something that would be there had I not stolen it. Though I do feel some remorse for stealing it.

 

[Heretic_Cata]

Over here 50$ is 1/3 of my parents salary.

 

[Gladi]

It's not as if you have to steal in order to have a good time playing games on your computer. keep in mind there are hundreds of thousands, if not millions of freeware/abandonware games out there, many of which I've found to be more enjoyable than games I've had to pay for.

Abandonware is illegal too. And yes. So far this year I pirated three (four if you count GalCiv II) games (CIV, HoMM V, Sims 2). And bought two of these games later.

 

[Alpine Trooper]

Who gives a **** if you pirate a game? It costs 70 bucks for a reason, to encourage you to pirate.

And pirate I will because I am Canadian and thats my damn given right.

 

[Masquerouge]

Who gives a **** if you pirate a game? It costs 70 bucks for a reason, to encourage you to pirate.

And pirate I will because I am Canadian and thats my damn given right.

Is there some irony in there? Or are you in the habit of stealing things you find too expensive?

 

[Stegyre]

Though I do feel some remorse for stealing it.

You poor, poor, tortured soul! How I feel for you: apparently, your gymnastic casuistry fails to convince even yourself.

 

[Masquerouge]

Abandonware is illegal too. And yes. So far this year I pirated three (four if you count GalCiv II) games (CIV, HoMM V, Sims 2). And bought two of these games later.

You've pirated GalCiv II? That's like robbing Mother Teresa.

 

[Gladi]

You poor, poor, tortured soul! How I feel for you: apparently, your gymnastic casuistry fails to convince even yourself.

see somehow I thought I will get this reaction. But yes these feeling are part of my cost\benefit analysis . In the same vein I can feel sorry for african malnourished kids while eating two pound beefalo steak- I think I was absorbed into Democrat Collective while in States

You've pirated GalCiv II? That's like robbing Mother Teresa.

Ahem, don't they implicitly not care? And don't worry I already deleted it.

 

[warpus]

Three years ago state of art for 1100$ as we have connections . And father needs it for work. And we have no intentions of buying any new (though we would like it) as we simply don't have money to throw at it. (in next year or two)
EDIT: so far per month 30$. ANd I buy game 2-4 times a year.

So you can afford to splurge $1,000 on a computer, but can't afford a $50 game?

 

[warpus]

Everyone repeat after me:

Piracy isn't theft, it's copyright infringement.

Sheesh, if you're going to accuse someone of something, at least get the terminology right.

 

[Paradigne]

To all the pirates out there: THANK YOU for making the games I PLAY more expensive. You have just robbed EVERYONE else who paid for the game.

And I DO agree with the analogy: Pirating software is no different than stealing a BMW.

 

[Gladi]

So you can afford to splurge $1,000 on a computer, but can't afford a $50 game?

As often as we want? No.

And good catch warpus, was just thinking about the same.

 

[Alpine Trooper]

Is there some irony in there? Or are you in the habit of stealing things you find too expensive?

Only things I find unreasonably priced. And humans are no exception.

 

[Truronian]

Only things I find unreasonably priced. And humans are no exception.

Or you could just not buy them. If you don't want to pay for a game why should you have the right to play it?

 

[GinandTonic]

Copyright infringement is not theft, its the failure to buy a licence.

Before the internet people in the uk were shamelessly gouged by music retailers. We would pay maby three times the us price for an album by a uk artist on a uk label. End result was that everyone pirated music, everyone. That I know of lawers, judges, teachers and policemen. And no-one was busted unless they were selling. And no-one cared because we were being robbed. So to the music companies, you reap what you so fellas.

Im self employed so I have periods of doing nothing with no money, so Ive downloaded games. Most of which I have bought. Ive had legit copies of every one of the civ games except the first. I bought them because Sid was welcome to my cash for a job well done, but if I didnt have the cash at the time that isnt an issue he can have it next month when I have some work.

Stardock has the way foward - the companies cant win the arms race. Only a few fans will choose to pay (that is what we are doing now) and only those who can afford it. The realpolitic is that they need to make it worth peoples while to pay. Maby sell more licences for less per unit or somesuch.

 

[Dionysius]

if you cant afford, it you cant buy it. if you get a pirated version normally it would hurt the company by not buying their one, but if you couldnt afford that one theres no harm done.

 

[warpus]

As often as we want? No.

What you want and what you can afford are two entirely different things. I'd love to be able to eat out at a fancy Italian restaurant every night - but I can't afford it.. so I don't do it.

Luxuries cost money. Games are a luxury.

And I DO agree with the analogy: Pirating software is no different than stealing a BMW.

In Dowling v. United States (1985), the United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit held that copyright infringement does not "easily equate" to theft.

So call it what it is, please.