Planet X and the end of the world in 2012

[Phlegmak]

Nightfall is very nicely written nonsense.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

My favourite kind of nonsense

 

[SG-17]

Spoiler :

We require your Godzilla and Rodan to defeat Monster Zero and save Planet X!​

 

[warpus]

Nightfall is one of my favourite books of all time.

 

[Mowque]

They had to stop somewhere and carving out 2,000 years in advance probably seemed like an adequate place to stop.

This is what i've been saying for years

 

[Berzerker]

It even at one point assumes the 'biblical flood' 7,200 years ago and the 'Jewish exodus', 3,600 years ago, using these to suggest a cataclysm with period 3,600 years that must occur again soon.

That sounds like the Sumerian "Sar" (Czar/Caesar) or Divine Year - a year to the gods. There's an interesting passage in the OT about man's days being numbered 120 years for God's spirit will not reside in man forever. Thats 432,000 years - ancient peoples calculated long periods of time by precession and the Zodiac, roughly 2160 years every "House", but since the constellations dont all fit in equal chunks of the sky disputes would arise over what "age" we were in. Taurus was from about 4400-2200 BC followed by Aries the Ram, hence the change in bull worship to the Ram. Jesus is the fish, Pisces, and we're coming up on Aquarius.

540 warriors will enter Valhalla thru 80 doors - 43,200
same relationship is found at Angkor Wat

 

[Dachs]

That sounds like the Sumerian "Sar" (Czar/Caesar)

wut

Linguistic connection between family name and civilization two thousand years prior totally unproven, unattested, and almost certainly a coincidence.

 

[illram]

Just avoid all the silly nonsense websites that are made by silly people and find the nice factual ones

Ah yes the factual websites about a huge doomsday planet that will destroy earth in 2012, silly me I was looking at the non-factual ones this whole time! Well back to the drawing board then.

 

[TheLastOne36]

Its *even* been said that this will cause the North and South pole to swap, causing all kinds of incredible castrophes across the globe.

That is believed to only happen when the snow on the north pole becomes to much weight that the entire crust flips and the north pole becomes south and vice versa.

With the melting of the Polar ice caps i doubt that would happen. Possibly the next flip of the poles was suppose to happen in 2012 as the Mayans predicted but they didn't take into account of Human pollution...

 

[MobBoss]

Not to be confused with Planet X the fictional planet, I believe its main name is actually "Nibiru"

Heres a nice link on the subject: http://www.december212012.com/articl...D_PLANET_X.htm


Thoughts and opinions on the matter? Google it if you want to find out information, Just avoid all the silly nonsense websites that are made by silly people and find the nice factual ones

Its basically a huge object, which is estimated to pass between us and the sun in 2012. Its effects can already be felt across the world (Drastically changing weather, hurricanes, etc etc)

Interesting fact: The mayan Calander has predicted all kinds of amazing things through history, and I don't believe its ever made a mistake. It even predicted lunar eclipses centuries forawd in time extremely accurately etc.

It ends on 2012... interesting isn't it?

Its supposed to be the end of our age, and the beginning of a new age.

Now of course everyone is going to be like "the world has been predicted to end millions of times before, y2k crap blablablabla" etc etc.

But, If you go to a astronomy you can actually *see* planet x, apparently. Its that close. There is pictures from nasa a few years back of planet x on the internet.

Another interesting fact, Google Space etc, Have the area were planet x is located blacked out.

Nasa were the first ones to locate the object, and posted it on their website. They then removed this statement, which can be found on the internet in screenshots, and denied its existance.

Its even been said that it can be the end of the world as described in the bible, due to the huge horns that seem to emit from its sides.

Its *even* been said that this will cause the North and South pole to swap, causing all kinds of incredible castrophes across the globe.

Now I'm not putting in any of my own thoughts and opinions on this, I just find it interesting. Anyone care to debunk this for me if you feel you can?


Anyone else got better information on the subject?

Be wary of videos on youtube, as alot of them are very silly and just put there by crazy people no doubt.. Make sure you filter out the good from the bad when watching vids / surfing the web about it.

Can I have your stuff?

 

[Cheezy the Wiz]

Screw the Mayans and their crazy 2012 theory.

According to Polish folklore the world is going to end in 1972. Yes, we realize the date has passed, but we're not giving up hope.

Dude, Woodstock was in '69.

 

[MobBoss]

Dude, Woodstock was in '69.

Maybe Nixon was their Anti-christ?

 

[Cheezy the Wiz]

Nixon was everyone's Anti-Christ except JFK's.

 

[Leifmk]

That is believed to only happen when the snow on the north pole becomes to much weight that the entire crust flips and the north pole becomes south and vice versa.

The whole thing is "believed to happen" only by people with no clue about physics.

 

[Falcon02]

The whole thing is "believed to happen" only by people with no clue about physics.

Actually it has happened numerous times in the past and is accepted by physicists and geologists as Historical record.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geomagnetic_reversal

There is no evidence though that such reversals would cause an extinction or mass calamities.

Causes

Scientific opinion is divided on what causes geomagnetic reversals. Many scientists believe that reversals are an inherent aspect of the dynamo theory of how the geomagnetic field is generated. In computer simulations, it is observed that magnetic field lines can sometimes become tangled and disorganized through the chaotic motions of liquid metal in the Earth's core.

In some simulations, this leads to an instability in which the magnetic field spontaneously flips over into the opposite orientation. This scenario is supported by observations of the solar magnetic field, which undergoes spontaneous reversals every 7-15 years (see: solar cycle). However, with the sun it is observed that the solar magnetic intensity greatly increases during a reversal, whereas all reversals on Earth seem to occur during periods of low field strength.

Present computational methods have used very strong simplifications in order to produce models that run to acceptable time scales for research programs.

A minority opinion, held by such figures as Richard A. Muller, is that geomagnetic reversals are not spontaneous processes but rather triggered by external events which directly disrupt the flow in the Earth's core. Such processes may include the arrival of continental slabs carried down into the mantle by the action of plate tectonics at subduction zones, the initiation of new mantle plumes from the core-mantle boundary, and possibly mantle-core shear forces resulting from very large impact events. Supporters of this theory hold that any of these events could lead to a large scale disruption of the dynamo, effectively turning off the geomagnetic field. Because the magnetic field is stable in either the present North-South orientation or a reversed orientation, they propose that when the field recovers from such a disruption it spontaneously chooses one or the other state, such that a recovery is seen as a reversal in about half of all cases. Brief disruptions which do not result in reversal are also known and are called geomagnetic excursions.

Effects on biosphere and human society

Because the magnetic field has never been observed to reverse by humans with instrumentation, and the mechanism of field generation is not well understood, it is difficult to say what the characteristics of the magnetic field might be leading up to such a reversal. Some speculate that a greatly diminished magnetic field during a reversal period will expose the surface of the earth to a substantial and potentially damaging increase in cosmic radiation. However, Homo erectus and their ancestors certainly survived many previous reversals. There is no uncontested evidence that a magnetic field reversal has ever caused any biological extinctions. A possible explanation is that the solar wind may induce a sufficient magnetic field in the Earth's ionosphere to shield the surface from energetic particles even in the absence of the Earth's normal magnetic field.

Although the inspection of past reversals does not indicate biological extinctions, present society with its reliance on electricity and electromagnetic effects (e.g. radio, satellite communications) may be vulnerable to technological disruptions in the event of a full field reversal.

That said... I don't believe any of this 2012 stuff. Nothing more then an ancient version of Y2K...

 

[Bill3000]

Can I have your stuff?

Thanks for bringing back memories of EQ, mobby!

 

[warpus]

That said... I don't believe any of this 2012 stuff. Nothing more then an ancient version of Y2K...

Erm.. Y2K was actually a real problem that could have resulted in big problems if it wasn't handled as well as it was.

I should know! I was on the Y2K transition project team @ a big insurance company.

 

[Bill3000]

Actually it has happened numerous times in the past and is accepted by physicists and geologists as Historical record.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geomagnetic_reversal

There is no evidence though that such reversals would cause an extinction or mass calamities.

Geomagnetic reversals are not caused by planetary alignments.

 

[PiMan]

Actually it has happened numerous times in the past and is accepted by physicists and geologists as Historical record.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geomagnetic_reversal

There is no evidence though that such reversals would cause an extinction or mass calamities.

Reversals exist, but they aren't caused by excess snow.

 

[Falcon02]

Agreed, I was just trying to address what appeared to be Leifmf's assertion that such reversals never occur. And, yes neither planetary alignments or excess snow cause them (as noted in the wikipedia article quoted).

Also, yes Y2K was a bigger issue due to the integration of computers into our life. I was just making the point that it's simply a roll over and does not mean the apocalypse. Even if Y2K wasn't handled properly it would not have meant the end of the world, nukes going off and such as many people believed at the time.