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[keldath]

heya platy buddy,

thanks, the ctrl z worked
could it be possible to set for civ to run always with this option checked?

anyway,
i wonder if i may i ask a favor again, i know your not so much modding these days...
could you add to the depletion mod , the ability to re spawn resources that are defined back on the map according to their bonus info in some logic?
i really wanna use the depletion mod, but i need a re appearing of the recourse on the map randomized (sorta).

could you do spare the time for this ? please?

 

[platyping]

I suggest you just use the XML tags like how mines work

 

[Harrier]

could you add to the depletion mod , the ability to re spawn resources that are defined back on the map according to their bonus info in some logic?
i really wanna use the depletion mod, but i need a re appearing of the recourse on the map randomized (sorta).

Why do you want to use the depletion mod? Unless it has changed recently it is completely random.

It does not consider if the city is working a tile with that resource or not.

In fact it was possible on turn two of a game to lose resources, before you have the tech that allows you to use them.

A good concept, but!

 

[keldath]

Hey guys,

Well, indeed i used the way mines discover resources, the idiscoverrand, ye its nice, but, it means, that you have to build an improvement to discover a new resource.

I wish for resources, to re appear on the same spot or near it, after x time or turns.
Not depending on the improvement on that spot.

I wish to use the deplition mod since it offers a system that exhusting a resource upon city use.

Any suggestions?

 

[platyping]

Why do you want to use the depletion mod? Unless it has changed recently it is completely random.

It does not consider if the city is working a tile with that resource or not.

In fact it was possible on turn two of a game to lose resources, before you have the tech that allows you to use them.

A good concept, but!

Resources depleted only when worked.

 

[keldath]

Well, if all the defined bonus, is being worked, after a whike, it will be depleited yes, so, after that time, the speciphic resource wont be on the map anymore... Eliminating its presence on the map. I wish re appearnce on the map, not neccesary on their previous place with discoverrand in the improvement spod.

Random popping of resource on the map. Sort of the opposite to the deplition mod

 

[keldath]

ok,
new suggestion,
instead of dealing with depletion and reappearing,

can you make a code that uses features?
ill explain - all is needed is to be able to define a certain feature, that when worked, provides a certain bonus. thats all
with the iappearnce, and idisssapearnce, alone with the growth tag, it will aloow the desired effect of reappearing and disappearing resources

could ya?

 

[platyping]

I don't intend to mod anything new, just maintaining existing ones.
It is time to let others experiment to learn how to mod since I won't be around forever.

 

[keldath]

i guess the crowd of civ4 is reduced every year that passes, the golden years of modding and civ4 has come and gone.... hard to come by modders or even players these days....

 

[Lib.Spi't]

Hi Platy if you are still around.

With Platypedia is it possible to change the number of columns on a given page/screen.

I used to be able to do this with the old Pedia cod, but I am struggling to find any refence to numbers of columns in your code.

Does it use some kind of auto scaling tables or some other explanation, or have I just not located the right reference?

NEVERMIND:

I sort of figured it out with a rather ugly solution in PlatyPediaMain.py by searching for columns and locking the max at 3.

 

[Dancing Hoskuld]

I tried using your TechChooser screen in C2C with humorous results. The each tech box is over two pages wide! Might I suggest you have a maximum width for the tech box so that at least 3 can be seen on the screen.

I have been trying to get all the techs to appear on one vertical page but no matter what I do with BOX_Y_SPACING I can't change the vertical space between the lines of techs. Trying BOX_Y_SPACING=1 made a small difference but it is still way too big.

 

[platyping]

Not sure if you are talking about the standalone or UUUU's.
Standalone may not be as updated, didn't bother to check.

BOX_WIDTH scales automatically with max items allowed by a tech (buildings, improvements, units etc). I noticed there isn't a check on dummy techs, which I guess it is possible C2C has a dummy tech which allows too many items, resulting in super wide box.

BOX_Y_SPACING isn't the actual vertical spacing between box.
The actual vertical spacing scales with the screen resolution, such that it tries to place all boxes vertically in just one page. BOX_Y_SPACING sets the minimum spacing width.

Edit: Reuploaded UUUU with the checks for dummy techs.

 

[Dancing Hoskuld]

Was from the latest UUU not stand alone. We have some techs that obsolete 500 buildings, that is why the BOX_WIDTH is so big.

The techs will fit on one vertical page if there is only 3 pixels between vertically.

edit I thought it may help to post some images.

The C2C tech ecreen page 1

1. as it is in C2C
2. using the Platy Tech screen with just the background replaced
3 and 4. After I added in and coded a maximum effects per box​

As you can see 3 & 4 are close to the original in the horizontal axis but different vertically

edit 2 and so I find a solution by changing the calculation of BOX_Y_SPACING from max to min

 

[platyping]

Using language as example, I would say both 1, 3 & 4 are truncated versions since they don't display the full details.

2 clearly shows that by right language should display 30 items.

I believe this would be a mod specific problem as it is unlikely for a tech to have that many items in other mods.

Solution 1 is to make use of Special Buildings so one icon represents a group, such as Temples and Monasteries. In this case, Natural Wonders.
Solution 2 is to limit the width and truncate, which is simplest solution you did.
Solution 3 is to edit the tech box area to be scrollable.
Solution 4 is to edit the tech box to be 4 layers, using 3 layers to display items.

 

[platyping]

Tech Screen Edit:

1) Graphical Only and Negative Grid Value Techs are no longer taken in account for calculation and display purposes.

2) Added a MIN_DISPLAY_PANEL global value to set minimum number of tech panels to display horizontally. By default this is set to 2.
This will automatically set a max number of items per tech panel box and truncate off the remaining items.
Scales with resolution.

 

[Dancing Hoskuld]

We have a minimum of 4 buildings per animal in C2C and we have over 500 animals. Three of these buildings go obsolete at Education which implies that there are at least 1500 obsolete building icons on that tech. Hence the need to truncate.

I changed or added between 4-6 lines of code to affect my changes. The big one IMO is the change for the vertical spacing by using minimum instead of maximum. IE

Old

		global BOX_Y_SPACING
		BOX_Y_SPACING = [B]max[/B](BOX_Y_SPACING, ((iHeight - 30) - ((iMaxY + 1)/2 * BOX_HEIGHT))/((iMaxY + 1)/2))
		self.placeTechs()

New

		global BOX_Y_SPACING
		BOX_Y_SPACING = [B]min[/B](BOX_Y_SPACING, ((iHeight - 30) - ((iMaxY + 1)/2 * BOX_HEIGHT))/((iMaxY + 1)/2))
		self.placeTechs()

edit Yes, I know this is not the best generic solution. Not only should it have a minimum of 1 it should take screen size into account and if it must go over a page (vertically) then it should space the rows out evenly over the pages rather than squashing them up all at the top.

 

[platyping]

My suggestion is to remove the need to display obsolete icons on the tech panel.
Afterall, most of the time it won't be displayed anyway, as you can arrange the priority of which icons to display. New buildings, units, civics etc should hold higher priority than obsolete items.

Commenting out obsolete items code will save you the hassle of looping through 5000+ buildings for every tech just to realize you won't have space to display them anyway.

 

[keldath]

heya platy,

can you tell me how to set the spacing between techs vertically to be 0? i want to make the space between them the smallest as possible so i cram in more techs.

 

[platyping]

Set BOX_Y_SPACING to 0

 

[Dancing Hoskuld]

Set BOX_Y_SPACING to 0

I tried that and it did not work as you use max(BOX_Y_SPACING,<calculated value>) rather than min. Unless you fixed that in your latest update.