Play w/o DVD?

[Gatekeeper]

I've started leaving the CD in my drive, and it's no problem whatsoever.

Just to be sure, I checked with the person who oversees our Apple computers at work and she agreed: Leaving the CD in the drive, even when the computer is being turned on or off, causes no harm.

I've done just that and, so far, it's an agreeable solution rather than having to handle the CD everytime I want to fire up a game of Civ IV.

Gatekeeper

 

[GreenHedge]

I have a no-dvd crack, I dont know the rules on this forum though. If it is ok for me to host, Ill post a link. If not your sol.


Moderator Action: The rules here are quite clear. Read them.
Please read the forum rules: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=422889

The site has zero tolerance to piracy, and will not allow posting of any information that encourages or enables it.

Thanks couldn't find the forum rules, looked around but couldn't find which topic it was in. Thats why I didn't post it, figured it was a no-no. Just a note, I wouldn't say a no-dvd crack is piracy, it is often used for piracy (and because of that I understand why there is a rule) but if you bought the game I see no reason why a crack is bad. *shrug*

 

[Beamup]

They're accessible at the bottom of every forum screen. You also supposedly read and agreed to them when you signed up - or at least you said you had.

Also, no-CD cracks are illegal in the US no matter how they're used. They can be used for piracy, therefore they're illegal under the DMCA.

 

[wiglaff]

Also, no-CD cracks are illegal in the US no matter how they're used.

This is entirely untrue.

 

[Skippy_Kangaroo]

Also, no-CD cracks are illegal in the US no matter how they're used. They can be used for piracy, therefore they're illegal under the DMCA.

Breathing is also illegal under the DMCA if I understand it correctly - so I could just trot out everyone's favourite Ayn Rand quote here.

And the clash between fair use and the DMCA has not been properly tested in the courts. A number of bogus uses of the DMCA with regard to printer cartridges have been defeated in courts. It would very much depend on the legal specifics of the use. There is no copyright violation if someone with a legally purchased copy of the game makes a backup or other copies for their private use. The invocation of the DMCA would be very much circumstance dependent.

But, IANAL.

 

[AlanH]

The discussion on DMCA is moot. This board has its own rules and there's a link to them at the bottom of every page. You will not discuss or distribute information about No-CD cracks here.

 

[wiglaff]

Incidentally, it baffles me that copy-protection these days is so bad. Requiring the CD to be in the drive is a weak stopgap. I've never had any experience with required online verification but I think that would work a lot better..

 

[AlanH]

Online verification has two issues I'm aware of ... maybe more:

1. You may not be online when the game next wants to check. There are ways to allow play to continue for a limited period or whatever, but I suspect most of them will either cause similar grief to the CD system, or they will result in loopholes that can be exploited to overcome the protection.

2. A lot of people are very suspicious of phone-home software. Call it paranoia, but it's out there.

PS. Look at the trouble M$ got themselves into with it in the latest Windows phone-home scandal.

 

[Cougarcat]

Online verification has two issues I'm aware of ... maybe more:

1. You may not be online when the game next wants to check. There are ways to allow play to continue for a limited period or whatever, but I suspect most of them will either cause similar grief to the CD system, or they will result in loopholes that can be exploited to overcome the protection.

That's why there should be both. If you're not online, use the CD; if you are online, and the game doesn't detect the CD, it'll verify your copy. Best of both worlds.

 

[Outlandish Josh]

FWIW I'm sorry if this is too touchy a topic. I was hoping someone had a neat trick or something along the lines of civ3 and renaming the HD.

 

[MAS]

FWIW I'm sorry if this is too touchy a topic. I was hoping someone had a neat trick or something along the lines of civ3 and renaming the HD.

Pure rule-technically, even if someone had such a trick, we would not be allowed to tell you according to the forum rules.

Not wanting to be a rule-lawyer...

 

[AlanH]

... even if someone had such a trick, we would not be allowed to tell you according to the forum rules.

That is correct.

 

[blisk]

Moderator Action: I've made the rules quite clear. Cease and desist! This is an official warning. AlanH
Please read the forum rules: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=422889

 

[Helmling]

Is a crack for a game you have a license for really piracy?

 

[Bazzalisk]

Depends where you live.

In the US and some other countries using such a thing is breach of the EULA and thus illegal. However the EULA is trumped by local law (ie. those sections of the agreement forbidden by local law are not considered binding) and in some countries the ability to modify it in such a way is part of garanteed consumer rights.

And in some countries EULAs aren't valid at all and everyone gets the same rights and restrictions on all software.

Fun isn't it?

 

[AlanH]

Is a crack for a game you have a license for really piracy?

It's irrelevant here. We don't allow discussion and dissemination of cracks that can enable piracy, regardless of your personal reasons for using them.

 

[irishlamma]

Moderator Action: Deleted

You really don't read what I say, do you?

These forums do NOT permit discussion of No-CD cracks
Please read the forum rules: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=422889

 

[Beamup]

Ever feel like you're talking to a brick wall, Alan?

 

[AlanH]

At least brick walls reflect what I say, and therefore, occasionally, talk sense

 

[irishlamma]

what i said had something to do with cracks?
since when did said thing become a crack thing?