Playable Byzantines in RFC 600AD

[nothin_personal]

I still believe they should either get an espionage bonus, or simply not to suffer stability penalties for adding/loosing cities. I can name at least 5 major civil wars that took place in Byzantine history off the top of my head.

 

[kbk]

Would a better unique power be:

The power of the capital city (although that does sound a bit lame):

Free embassy in Constantinople with every civ upon contact.

Maybe. Except I seem to recall that at least once, Crusaders did not realize that the Byzantines were Christian and invading them by accident. Sounds to me like they lost contact at some point.

Byzantines were really instrumental in spreading early Christianity, so maybe they should have a power where they get extra gold per Christian city, or maybe extra espionage or culture.

 

[blizzrd]

It wasn't that those various crusaders who attacked the Byzantines ever lost contact, more a case of a free-standing army who decided to loot and pillage enroute to their alleged targets in Palestine.

The Byzantines allowed the crusaders access through their lands, but not all rulers did so at the time. The Kingdom of Hungary for instance did not allow the German crusaders in particular access through his lands, for he feared exactly what befell the Byzantines.

 

[Úmarth]

The fourth Crusade sacked and almost destroyed Constantinople, and then put their own Latin Empire in its place. The of course knew full well that the Byzantines were Christians as the First Crusade was in theory called in their defence. It certainly wasn't an accident and Constantinople never recovered.

 

[Lokolus]

Why are you arguing about the Byzantine UP when it can't be implemented?

 

[Úmarth]

This is the internet, of course we're arguing.

 

[ijnavy]

If you can implement them, then please do so. I if you want to help, I think that this is a good thread: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=196283

 

[onedreamer]

Maybe. Except I seem to recall that at least once, Crusaders did not realize that the Byzantines were Christian and invading them by accident. Sounds to me like they lost contact at some point.

this is like believing that the USA invaded Iraq in order to find WMD.

This is the internet, of course we're arguing.

 

[kbk]

this is like believing that the USA invaded Iraq in order to find WMD.

Actually it was oil. And we didn't find that either.



ANYWAYS....

"Theoretically" they remembered in the 4th crusade why they went on the first? That's like 5 generations of people in the Middle Ages. But alright, point taken, it was a lot more nuanced than my characterization of "lost contact and found a city to sack."

I still say the power should be linked to the spread of Christianity somehow. They were the first Civilization to adopt Christianity after all.

 

[ijnavy]

Armenia was the first civilization to adopt Christianity. In the game since Armenia does not exist, Rome is the first. Again, if you can implement it, please do.

 

[onedreamer]

nope, in RFC the first is Ethiopia.

 

[ijnavy]

Can someone please try the link in post 167. The dll might be the problem. Lets stop arguing and try to make the Byzantines playable. Then we can discuss everything else.

 

[Lokolus]

Why don't you PM Rhye?

 

[kbk]

Armenia was the first civilization to adopt Christianity. In the game since Armenia does not exist, Rome is the first. Again, if you can implement it, please do.

Right, Ethiopia is 1st, but they're gone for the 600 AD start.

 

[Rhye]

If anyone can figure out what is wrong, here are the files:
The RFC 3000 BC file goes into Rhye's and fall of Civ/PublicMaps folder.
The Python file goes into Rhye's of Civ/Assets/Python folder.

If someone can also get the Civ Dynamic Name Text file working, it would be great. Rhye's/Assets/XML/Text

Apparently, you provided no DLL! That's the clear reason. In the DLL, settlers maps, more consts and the new number of players must be set.

 

[Metal Alloy Man]

Apparently, you provided no DLL! That's the clear reason. In the DLL, settlers maps, more consts and the new number of players must be set.

How much work would this require? I might give it a go if it's not too complicated. I can already edit XML and if you have any tips it would help. I haven't looked at ijnavys link yet so would that be helpful for a newbie like me?

 

[ijnavy]

I've already tried this, but it doesn't work for me. If you could figure out how to open the dll, I would happily do all the other work.

 

[Metal Alloy Man]

I'll give it a go tomorrow and if not then on the weekend for sure, but most likely tomorrow.

 

[Rhye]

The easiest way is using Visual Studio 2003

 

[ijnavy]

Will the game be unplayable because of the new patch?
How's it going Metal Alloy Man? I just downloaded Microsoft Visual C++ 2008 Express Edition so if you can't do it, I might try myself.