Player stats, sales, and reception speculation thread

[King of Prussia]

Steam summer sale starts Thursday(26th) so waiting for the weekend to gauge player numbers pre and post patch wont work.

Id be shocked if it wasnt on sale. How big of a sale would indicate to me how they feel(or rather the publisher) about the game.

If you are right then that's even more cynical then I could imagine, and they'd lose not just a Civ VII sale but I'd just steer clear of the series in the future.

It would be so distasteful to remove the "civilization" from civilization only to sell it back as dlc. Absolutely no chance I'd buy that even if it does "fix" the game.

Civ has a long history of DLCs(expansions) vastly changing/improving the game. This isnt new, and wouldnt be new for 7 if it happens.

 

[Verified_Confection_Being]

Steam summer sale starts Thursday(26th) so waiting for the weekend to gauge player numbers pre and post patch wont work.

Id be shocked if it wasnt on sale. How big of a sale would indicate to me how they feel(or rather the publisher) about the game.


Civ has a long history of DLCs(expansions) vastly changing/improving the game. This isnt new, and wouldnt be new for 7 if it happens.

Yeah but I'm not going to pay for a $70 base game to get the basegame I wanted from the DLC. Civ V is the closest to that sort of problem in the past and it was panned for it.

Im just not here for it, and I think it's a disgusting way to make your fans pay for Ed Beach's failed vanity project personally.

Free update, or make it so you can buy the non Civ switching alternative as basegame, and pay for the Civ switching as an expansion if you get interested or it's a hard no from me

 

[SammyKhalifa]

Yeah but I'm not going to pay for a $70 base game to get the basegame I wanted from the DLC. Civ V is the closest to that sort of problem in the past and it was panned for it.

Im just not here for it, and I think it's a disgusting way to make your fans pay for Ed Beach's failed vanity project personally.

Free update, or make it so you can buy the non Civ switching alternative as basegame, and pay for the Civ switching as an expansion if you get interested or it's a hard no from me

Major changes have almost always come to the base game as well whenever an expansion/big dlc comes out

 

[Verified_Confection_Being]

Let's hope it's true this time too

 

[Xur]

I think it's fairly risky to put it on sale given the reviews. They would most likely end up with more bad reviews - digging themselves into an even bigger hole. I think it would make more sense to get the "recent reviews" up to at least 70%, and then drop a sale.

 

[Gorbles]

There was nothing in this patch that would get someone to buy the game / change opinion about systems.

The new map sizes, among other improvements, are certainly something some people have been holding out for.

So there definitely is something.

 

[Kwami]

If people dont like the base game, then their entire DLC model is dead. For a DLC to be viable you need a healthy playerbase. It's like a nesting doll - the DLC's success is limited by how many people are still playing.

That's not true at all. Plenty of players will stop playing the game and then come back when there's a new DLC to try. It's pretty normal to move onto another game after hundreds of hours of Civ, then come back later to try the new stuff.

 

[queenpea]

It looked like a reasonable bump compared to the last few Mondays when I checked midday yesterday, but I didn't have time to grab exact numbers. This weekend will be the more interesting time frame, as there's time before then for positive (or negative) buzz re the patch to circulate.

The game usually peaks on Sunday for concurrent player count, and I think the Monday (patch day) number was bigger or just as big as Sunday's result -- so there is definitely a bump happening.

 

[SammyKhalifa]

The game usually peaks on Sunday's for concurrent player count, and I think the Monday (patch day) number was bigger or just as big as Sunday's result -- so there is definitely a bump happening.

I'll admit I fired it up for the first time in forever--not really love/hate of the game related, I just don't usually play anything as much in the summers.

 

[Kev1916]

If people dont like the base game, then their entire DLC model is dead. For a DLC to be viable you need a healthy playerbase. It's like a nesting doll - the DLC's success is limited by how many people are still playing.

Totally thou to be fair there are about 15 DLC's already out !!!! , and Current reviews are again down sitting at 32% base game, DLC's are lol like 10%

Next DLC ( look out for a few big names to try tempt a few in ) will probs be the tipping point that 2K cuts off future funding and resources if it also fails

 

[Gorbles]

Next DLC ( look out for a few big names to try tempt a few in ) will probs be the tipping point that 2K cuts off future funding and resources if it also fails

Looking forward to this prediction being proven incorrect.

I want the game to have that long tail they said Civ. games tend to have. The mod support will go a long way, no doubt

 

[Kev1916]

Looking forward to this prediction being proven incorrect.

I want the game to have that long tail they said Civ. games tend to have. The mod support will go a long way, no doubt

Aye sure chin up, thou wanting something doesn't always make it happen

If the next DLC bats in with a 90% negative review like the first, or is a flop then I'd have to say people would be pretty naive to believe 2K would carry on , in any but a small side project

 

[Kwami]

Next DLC ( look out for a few big names to try tempt a few in ) will probs be the tipping point that 2K cuts off future funding and resources if it also fails

The next DLC was already decided quite a while ago. It's part of the Right to Rule Collection that was included with the Founders Edition of the game and will be released as a Steam collection, just like Crossroads of the World.

Firaxis hasn't announced the leaders and civilizations, yet, but the game's data files tell us that they'll be Genghis Khan, Lakshmibai, Assyria (antiquity), Silla (antiquity), Dai Viet (exploration), and Qajar (modern). These DLCs were going to be released in the spring, but were delayed until later this summer so that the developers could focus on core game improvements.

So, you obviously have no idea what you're talking about with your predictions of doom.

 

[Bug Repellent]

I think it would make more sense to get the "recent reviews" up to at least 70%, and then drop a sale.

That's a very tall order for Civ7 I'm afraid.

 

[Kev1916]

The next DLC was already decided quite a while ago. It's part of the Right to Rule Collection that was included with the Founders Edition of the game and will be released as a Steam collection, just like Crossroads of the World.

Firaxis hasn't announced the leaders and civilizations, yet, but the game's data files tell us that they'll be Genghis Khan, Lakshmibai, Assyria (antiquity), Silla (antiquity), Dai Viet (exploration), and Qajar (modern). These DLCs were going to be released in the spring, but were delayed until later this summer so that the developers could focus on core game improvements.

So, you obviously have no idea what you're talking about with your predictions of doom.

I apologise, I realise it is upsetting that a game you looked forward to is doing so bad .

A prediction is like a guess , and yea my guess is if the next dlc is rated as poorly as the first , which was to be fair was really really bad .
Then I guess 2K will call it a day .
For you sake I hope it’s a good one

 

[Sagax]

I apologise, I realise it is upsetting that a game you looked forward to is doing so bad .

A prediction is like a guess , and yea my guess is if the next dlc is rated as poorly as the first , which was to be fair was really really bad .
Then I guess 2K will call it a day .
For you sake I hope it’s a good one

They're simply pointing out the correct scope of the next DLC. Expecting a major shift in perception from Right to Rule, which is nothing more than 4 civs, 2 leaders, and a few more wonders? Yeah, not gonna happen. At the same time, I doubt anyone at 2K is positioning it as any sort of a game changer.

Your skepticism would be much better placed in the actual first expansion.

 

[user746383]

They should probably aim to do something relatively soon or they it will not just be trying to revive a game that had a hard launch that it hasn’t recovered from yet (and is actually trending worse and worse in reviews at least for now), but a game a year or maybe more old that also had a hard launch and has been trending worse. At some point it will be really hard to find a new audience.

On the one hand I think it could be a good thing if they have a steam summer sale and a bunch of new people buy and like it, but if they do that and people leave bad reviews it might just make things worse. But at the same time if they can’t do the summer sale, where do all the players come from?

 

[MutilationWave]

They should probably aim to do something relatively soon or they it will not just be trying to revive a game that had a hard launch that it hasn’t recovered from yet (and is actually trending worse and worse in reviews at least for now), but a game a year or maybe more old that also had a hard launch and has been trending worse. At some point it will be really hard to find a new audience.

On the one hand I think it could be a good thing if they have a steam summer sale and a bunch of new people buy and like it, but if they do that and people leave bad reviews it might just make things worse. But at the same time if they can’t do the summer sale, where do all the players come from?

When did they say for Right to Rule? If they can toss in some surprise bonuses then do 33% off they could actually swing the pendulum.

 

[Kwami]

When did they say for Right to Rule? If they can toss in some surprise bonuses then do 33% off they could actually swing the pendulum.

The original deal is that we get all of Right to Rule by September. Sometime in March or April, they said that RtR had been delayed until summer so that they could focus on improving the core game. So... sometime between now and September.

 

[user746383]

Since the update on the 23rd, there was a boost of more positive reviews for a couple days but not enough to reach the number of negative reviews (it was just one away!) The first day was 49% positive, the second day was 40% positive, and (so far) today it's 23% positive.