Please, Let It End. Another School Shooting

[Dell19]

What they should is put on the sad faces, report it once, and then move on to something else.

Its still news and I don't believe you can blame the media. It would be like blaming drug problems on football. They could go down the route of not noting down their names like with the Swedish general who basically allowed the Russians to take Finland.

 

[Bozo Erectus]

Definitely the last thing they should do is give the gunmans name and layout his biography on national television. If they died like anonymous nobodies, as they lived, the copycat incidents would be much less.

 

[JohnRM]

You really think non Republicans are glad innocent people have died? Of course you dont because you love to complain about how they dont like killing. Therefore you just want to troll and use a tragedy to advance your own political views. What a despicable thing to do. Humble servant my posterior.

I did not say that Democrats and Liberals were happy that people died, only that they now have further ammunition to back their push for the abolition of firearms. Am I foolish to explain this, cause you seemed to have such a hard time understanding me the first time?

Yeah, I know. I am an evil person who will swallow your soul.

 

[JohnRM]

Definitely the last thing they should do is give the gunmans name and layout his biography on national television. If they died like anonymous nobodies, as they lived, the copycat incidents would be much less.

Without a doubt. They tell you everything about these people and give those more mentally unstable individuals, in this country, every opportunity to draw some commonalities between themselves and the gunmen.

 

[Bozo Erectus]

The irresponsible behavior of the 'sane' newsmedia bothers me as much as the actions of the demented shooters. Theyre fully aware that theyre increasing the likelihood of a copycat incident by producing this sort of coverage, they arent stupid people. They understand the power of the media better than anyone. Yet they do it anyway.

 

[Godwynn]

What else do you want me to say?

How about something that doesn't piss people off in a thread like this?

I don't know any of these people and it is foolish to say that I sympathize. Of course I sympathize and feel bad for them. I don't need any of you to see me write that.

We also don't need you to threadjack.

I was under the impression that the story was posted to discuss the effects of these shootings on American psyche and American society.

So you say the Democrats are going to use this against the Republicans? Well what the hell is that? Why not comment on what the motivation of the shooter might have been? It seems to me you are worried about Novermber 7th and are using anything you can get your hands on to fight back, even if it is as something as sad as this.

If we are all here just to give the opportunity to stroke each others' sympathy bone, then maybe I don't belong here.

You could sure as hell not incite hatred.

I was also pre-empting the eventual comment from someone that "ALAS! Don't you see that we need to outlaw these infernal firearms?!"

But it hasn't happened yet, and when he does, tell them to start their own thread.

 

[Rik Meleet]

Are other countries suffering from school shootings? It seems to me that it is an American thing, which might help in analyzing it and fighting it, but I just want to make sure.

I sort of remember it happening in Canada and I vaguely recall it happening in Australia ... (could be wrong).

But would we hear it if it happened in Albania, Sri Lanka, Bolivia or Lesotho?

 

[skadistic]

I wonder how the media wil incorporate "goth" and "video games" into this one?

 

[Dell19]

But would we hear it if it happened in Albania, Sri Lanka, Bolivia or Lesotho?

I assume we would hear if it happened in Albania. The others are probably less likely although it could depend which country you are talking about as having ethic communities from those countries might increase the likelihood, as would the amount of other news.

 

[Chaos_BF1942]

I wonder how the media wil incorporate "goth" and "video games" into this one?

I just saw on the news he is around 32, also it being a Amish school would really shot down the goth or video game thing.

It is a very sad story. So far 3 had been confiremed dead.

 

[Masquerouge]

I sort of remember it happening in Canada and I vaguely recall it happening in Australia ... (could be wrong).

But would we hear it if it happened in Albania, Sri Lanka, Bolivia or Lesotho?

Good point. So is this an American medias issue, meaning it's because of the way that it is over-reported on the news that people seemingly do it a lot, is it a more profound problem with American society that would still happen even if it was played down in the medias, or is it just a scare that is not as bad as it appears?

 

[JohnRM]

How about something that doesn't piss people off in a thread like this?

I have never concerned myself with the feelings of others on this forum.

We also don't need you to threadjack.

Well, next time, define the intentions and restrictions of your thread a bit more, then?

So you say the Democrats are going to use this against the Republicans? Well what the hell is that? Why not comment on what the motivation of the shooter might have been?

I don't have any clue what the motive of the shooter might have been. I KNOW that Democrats will specifically use this series of events to push for more gun control.

It seems to me you are worried about Novermber 7th and are using anything you can get your hands on to fight back, even if it is as something as sad as this.

If you say so.

You could sure as hell not incite hatred.

Again, I've never concerned myself with the feelings of others on this forum.

But it hasn't happened yet, and when he does, tell them to start their own thread.

This is one thing that I may agree with you about. It may be, perhaps, that I should have waited for the inevitable post from the other side and then allow time for everyone to shout them down. Touche!

 

[Masquerouge]

I assume we would hear if it happened in Albania. The others are probably less likely although it could depend which country you are talking about as having ethic communities from those countries might increase the likelihood, as would the amount of other news.

What makes you think Albania has more news coverage than Lesotho or Sri Lanka? Actually I would say Sri Lanka and Bolivia actually get news coverage, while Albania and Lesotho don't...

 

[Dell19]

Good point. So is this an American medias issue, meaning it's because of the way that it is over-reported on the news that people seemingly do it a lot, is it a more profound problem with American society that would still happen even if it was played down in the medias, or is it just a scare that is not as bad as it appears?

It was on the news here in the UK although I guess the coverage is much less and there is a cultural divide since it is happening in a different country with different laws.

 

[Taliesin]

To my knowledge there have been two school shootings in Canada: one in northern Alberta in 1997 or so, and the one just recently in Montreal. There have also been shootings at Concordia University and l'Ecole Polytechnique, both in Montreal; those were in 1992 and 1989.

 

[Cuivienen]

Good point. So is this an American medias issue, meaning it's because of the way that it is over-reported on the news that people seemingly do it a lot, is it a more profound problem with American society that would still happen even if it was played down in the medias, or is it just a scare that is not as bad as it appears?

That's a large part of it. the media loves to fearmonger in the US, far more so than in Britain or Canada. (I can't speak for anywhere else, having not been there.) That fearmongering probably in turn increases the rate of incidence as copycats crop up. The most recent series of three school shootings within two wekks is almost certainly a copycat effect brought on by the media putting way too much focus on the first school shooting.

This is especially obvious given that the last two, and possibly all (I don't remember) were commited by non-students.

 

[Dell19]

What makes you think Albania has more news coverage than Lesotho or Sri Lanka? Actually I would say Sri Lanka and Bolivia actually get news coverage, while Albania and Lesotho don't...

I'm making the assumption because Albania is closer and we have played them several times in football qualifiers. We tend to get quite a few news stories from around the Balkans and I would agree that Sri Lanka would be another possibility. I was going to include them in my first post but then got side tracked by beginning to think about the different influencing factors. I guess Greece would be much more likely to hear about Albania.

 

[Shylock]

I smelll bacon on shootings. This is way too convienent as it comes on the heels of a bill, HR 5295, that would allow mass searchs in school for no reason (including strip searches!). I have no doubt they will bring up this up when it goes through Congress and the SCOTUS.

http://digg.com/offbeat_news/Student_Strip_Search_Bill_goes_to_Senate

Notice how all of them kill themselves, as if to avoid capture and leaks.

 

[Cuivienen]

Oh, come on. That's one of the more ridiculous conspiracy theories I've heard here.

 

[Tenochtitlan]

I thought they didn't have television in Amish community. How can this be a copycat incident if they don't have televisions? This only proves that video games and movies have puny effects on school shootings