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Its only because your in Eastern Europe Yeekim unless your now claiming that your part of Scandinavia again. Get those furs back on!
 
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I have never objected against being in Eastern Europe. However, Estonia is sometimes considered a Nordic country (independently of my opinion) so if I really gave a heck, I could make such a claim.
 
Yeekim said:
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I have never objected against being in Eastern Europe. However, Estonia is sometimes considered a Nordic country (independently of my opinion) so if I really gave a heck, I could make such a claim.
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theres a sort of a parallel with Ireland there, sometimes we are referred to as western, sometimes northern
 
Because culture of British islands is unique thanks relative isolation from Europe as are Scandinavians. There are quite many links in history between these cultures.
 
Yeekim said:
Actually, if we leave aside several hyperboles and generalizations, including that inferiority complexes and misplaced nationalism is the defining characteristic for anyone due East from Germany, there is a some valid substance in this post.

There are people on these forums, who go (or, at least, used to go) quite over the top asserting "we be in Central Europe, we have naught to do with barbaric East!" - something which I've always found quite silly and embarrassing.

This completely arbitrary and unimportant classification simply does not deserve all this fuss.
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Actually, he just validated the point these people (who?) are making - that "Eastern Europe" = "useless Europe" or "here-be-dragons Europe" and therefore that calling someone "Eastern European" is in fact an insult.

This just adds to the overall failure of that post.
 
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Plus nobody can decide whether it's in east or west europe
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From DYOS XI:

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Anyways, Poland is widely discussed by people interested in history, since there were many situations where the country could have been much more succesful than what really happened. It was a powerhouse, once, and Poles are aware of that - that might be one of the reasons for the nationalism, fx.

I never hear about her in the news though.
 
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That was great! What was that? Were we trying to elect the new Holy Roman Emperor of CFCOT?(looks like RRW is emperor in the second image) Eitherway you forgot Garbage Day.
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kulade said:
Let's be real. Eastern Europe is just a euphemism for Unimportant Europe. The "west" Europe consists of the post-imperial states and Western powerhouses. You can draw silly lines all you want, but the Eastern vs. Western Europe distinction is one of historical precedence not geography. Everyone pretty much knows this, and the reason this Poland garbage always comes up is because Poles want to make sure people think they're on the "cool side," which is a completely counterproductive action, whereas sane western Europeans usually don't give a crap what people think about their respective nations and usually are the ones bewailing their own countries. So pretty much you can tell Eastern Europeans from "western" Europeans by their constant inferiority complex and misplaced nationalism, while wests Euros realize they don't have to derive their personal identity from where they were born. Given this it's pretty obvious which side Poland is on.

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I think it has more to do with most people's prejudiced opinion about Poland being some small inferior country that get's invaded millions of times, the 'opposition' is just trying to say that 'Hey, Poland was big mighty strong and quite a bit of a force one time.' It's not about inferiority complex.

Why would we not be on that 'Cool' side? We are Catholic, Western Europe is Catholic, We are Western, Western Europe is Western, We use Roman Alphabet, Western Europe uses Roman Alphabet, Our trade was primarially with Western Europe, Western Europe's trade was with Western Europe, We were 'friends' with several Western European nations, Culturally we are closer to Western European cultures than we are to Eastern, and the list goes on and on!

The only arguement's you guys have came up with are...

"But Poland is Eastern Europe!!! I learned it in School!"
Your teacher was raised during the Communist times. During that time we were part of the Warsaw Pact thus aligned (key word, aligned) with the East. Besides we were enforced to do so by the Russians, because our good friends to the west ditched us.

"But Poland was part of the Warsaw Pact and was Communist!!!"
So what? That was one part of our history, we were enforced to do so by the Russians because you guys ditched us. That doesn't change our culture or history though. Before the cold war we were Central European, and 20 years have passed since the fall of communism. 2 decades. Makes sense to be Central European, no?

"But you are slavic, all slavs are in Eastern Europe!"
Slavic isn't like Romantic, or Germanic. Slavic groups are fairly far apart. Slavic languages within a group have trouble speaking to each other (Polish to Czech is like Portuguese to Romanian).

There are 3 slavic groups within Slavs. Western (poles) Eastern (ruskies) and Southern (serbs)
Each of these groups are fairly far apart. Maybe not as much as Romantic and Germanic languages but it is getting to there. Russian is absolute Gibberish with only very few proto-slavic words like 'No' that are somewhat similar. Likewise if i compare Polish to Serbian or Bulgarian. I could not understand anything my exgirlfriend said in Serbian.

The only exception to this rule is Ukrainian spoken by true Ukrainians (not watered down ukrainian russians) And that is because of Centuries of Polish dominance introducing many Polish words to the Ukrainian language. It happened with Lithuanian to.

"But UN considers it part of Eastern Europe, look at the map!"
The UN also considers France to be a dominant power and a big player. Besides who says they are right anyway? They probably haven't updated the map since the UN formed to, so I'm not surprised if they stick with ancient definitions from the Cold War.
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Outside of those 4 questions which have all been answered, nobody has came up with a good reason that Poland is not Central European.
 
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