Polish Civ

[Roundman]

I think that the Poles should be a new civ in Conquests. Why should they be in? Well, the Poles played a major role in Europe from the Middle Ages up to the present day. From around 1575-to around 1700 Poland was arguably the most powerful force on the continent. The Polish army halted the expansion of the Ottomans in 1683, and nearly conquered Russia. Culturally, the Poles have been influential from the reformation all the way up to Solidarity movement and the fall of the Soviet Union.

This is an interesting Polish history website:
http://www.kasprzyk.demon.co.uk/www/HistoryPolska.html

Overall, I feel that the Poles are as justifiable as the Portuguese, Dutch, Khmer, etc. Some may argue that there are too many European civs. On a world map, Western Europe is crowded, Eastern Europe is relatively empty, and besides, Eastern European peoples have a cultural heritage that is different from those of Western Europe. Besides, Poland would be a perfect civ to launch the new agricultural trait with.

My ideas for a Polish civ: Leader: Casimir the Great (1333-1371)? Stefan Batory (late sixteenth century)? Lech Walesa?
Traits: Religious & Agricultural
Cities: Capital:Warsaw
Krakow,Lodz, Wroclaw, Lublin, Posnan, etc.

UU: Either the Hussars, the elite Polish Cavalry of the Seventeenth Century, who would replace Cavalry and get an extra movement point at a slighty higher cost, or an upgraded Musketman with an extra defense point (Polish infantry was known for its rapid rate of fire)

What does everyone else think of this?

 

[Granite88]

I think it sounds good, although as you say, it is another european civ. Personally, I'd like to see some modern day South American Civs like Brazil or Argentina.

 

[Strider]

I think there's enough european civs out there... There is still some gaping holes elsewhere on the Civ3 world map. Let's fill them in.

 

[Pangur Bán]

No, sorry, no Poles. They don't make on merit, distinctiveness or geography. And they are much less worthy than the Portuguese.

Eastern Europe is nicely represented by the Russians, the Germans, the Greeks, (now) the Byzantines and the Ottomans. (In fact, overrepresented!)

 

[Gen]

Poland has every right to be in, it isn't "worth less" than Portugal or any other european country. Please note: I also don't say it's worth more.

Howewer, it's a bit too late for such proposition. A list of seven new civs is seemingly complete now:

Sumeria, Hittites, Mayans, Inca, Portugal, Dutch, Byzantium.

Edit:
also, Germany lies in west/central Europe, Ottomans and Byzantium aren't/won't be in european culture group, too.

 

[Al Zan]

maybe,but europe as too many civ

 

[andvruss]

Let's here for the new civ Canada in Conquests!

 

[Mr Black]

I agree, Polska should be in.

They're already in my mod, with the Husaria as the UU.

I hope Conquest will allow us to add more civs.

Otherwise, the Byzzahhs, Hittys, and Summers will be replaced by the Hebrews, Khmers, and the Polska civ. Well, at least in my mod.

 

[Inhalaattori]

I think "Polska" is a somekind of dance.

Khmers are ok, but these hebrews I cannot really understand.
They have been * through the history, but that is not a reason to be in civ3.

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[andvruss]

Originally posted by Inhalaattori
I think "Polska" is a somekind of dance.

I think you are mistaking that with polka, a waltz-like slavic dance.

 

[Mr Black]

Polska is what the Polish people call their country.

Maybe it's a transliteration, I don't know if they use the Latin alphabet.

P.S. I would also like to see the Hungarians. Just call me Euro-centric.

 

[Al Zan]

Too many dam civ in Europe, make more in Asia!

 

[Gen]

Originally posted by Mr Black
Polska is what the Polish people call their country.

That's right. And polka is a dance.

I don't know if they use the Latin alphabet.

We do.

 

[Eastern Knight]

Not a bad idea, but Austrian-Hungarians should replace the Polish, and also they should add the Khmer to conquor Southeastern Asia, the Sioux, Hebrew, Assyrian, and the Polynesian to conquor the Pacific and Australia.

 

[Lynx]

Sounds good!

 

[solid b]

Originally posted by Al Zan
Too many dam civ in Europe, make more in Asia!

the thing is, i wouldnt say civ is euro-centric because it has so many european civs.real important decisiions were made in europe and most of the 'big' civs were in europe...so obviously you are going to have a lot fo european civs in it...

 

[Al Zan]

if your playing on tierra_362_el_mencey map maybe! but on the smaller i think not!

 

[LouLong]

I think a Polish civ would definitely be worth being included but there is a Polish mod already, Europe is crowded and Firaxis has made its choice of civs along its scenario choices...

So forget about it being included, don't consider it is because of little importance and use the Polish mod.

 

[Xen]

Originally posted by Eastern Knight
Not a bad idea, but Austrian-Hungarians should replace the Polish, and also they should add the Khmer to conquor Southeastern Asia, the Sioux, Hebrew, Assyrian, and the Polynesian to conquor the Pacific and Australia.

The Austriu-Hungarian empire was NEVER a civ, only a short lived union of two kingdoms through royal marage, and the hebrews might cause to much of a socio-political stir

 

[Oruc]

Nope!