Pot smokers?

[Cecasander]

I've never smoked anything, including pot. And I'm not planning on going to smoke, But when I do, I think I'll try cannabis as well, just for fun. I know a whole bunch of people who smoke pot, and their okay. Plus, I think smoke from joins smell better that sigarette smoke, or worse, sigar smoke Yessss, becoming passively stoned is fun

 

[Simon Darkshade]

Refer to the most frequently heard catchcry of Ian Paisley.

 

[Pongui]

Originally posted by cgannon64
Did you feel a phyiscal or mental need to try coke again?

Not that I noticed, and definitely not. If I ever become a comedian, politician, or wheeler-dealer, I may reconsider. It would be a performance enhancer. Boosts self-importance.

I like mescalhead's attitude. Nad's too. Trying pot for the first time confirmed in neon lights what I'd half-consciously suspected for a long time: that I take things for granted. Mind-altering drugs gave me perspective on my own awareness, my own way of thinking. Had I stayed in the box, knowing only the box... well, that's another discussion. I'm glad I strayed. I got to think about some things.

 

[CruddyLeper]

These days, I'm a rare user - maybe once or twice a week. I spent most of my 20s under the influence and am starting to appreciate how much else I can do while straight.

 

[polymath]

Tried my first joint when I was 13.

Between 14 and 17 I was fanatically anti-smoking.

Started smoking (cigs) when I was 18.

Smoked a great deal of marijuana from 19 years old, up until about a year ago. Never saw it affect my brain - I've always had an IQ of around 150-160, even when taking IQ tests when very stoned, strangely enough. I did that every three months or so, just to check, but like I say it didn't affect the scores one bit.

I would agree with what Sean Lindstrom said - I believe it actively aided my ability to think creatively and 'outside the box'. It's definitely given me much more perspective about life.

Haven't bought any for months and months, but I will have some perhaps once a week but not more. Last Saturday for example. But I'm aiming to give it all up (cigs and pot) for New Years Eve.

It's not a gateway drug in my case - I've never been tempted to smoke crack or take ecstasy for example (OK, I had an ecstasy pill about five years ago, but it's just not my thing at all).

I find it most enjoyable when I smoke it in places of outstanding natural beauty - some of the most memorable experiences in my life have been: smoking Purple Haze at Castlerigg Stone Circle in the Lake District; Maui Wowie on Haleakala; Maldivean Boatmen's Homegrown at Furana Fushi, whilst fishing on the banks of the St. Lawrence River, and so on. That's almost like a form of religious worship in my eyes. Communion with nature, if you will.

BUT, whereas I used to enjoy smoking it while playing e.g. Civ, now I find I don't like to smoke whilst playing at all. Just seems kind of sad behaviour and gives me very negative feelings. Nice when I'm watching a movie though. It certainly enhanced The Hulk (last Saturday night).

As I say, I'm aiming to give it all up on New Years Eve. I think my body is telling me that too, I certainly wouldn't recommend it to anyone either, it affects everyone differently. It can even give certain people a psychosis, and many will find that it will turn them into anti-social saddo loner types - it's definitely not for everyone!

In general I view it as a thing that has given me a lot of pleasure - but will shortly become part of my past.

 

[Skullbones]

I haven't smoked in years. I'm pretty sure the world would be a much more bland and less interesting place without pot. I had some of the best times while I was high.

 

[ComradeDavo]

I have some occasionally. Whenever my friends or girlfriend have some and are sharing around.

 

[h4ppy]

Originally posted by Siggy
But some people even say they'll never respect people who do use drugs. I think that is silly, just the same as saying you won't respect people because they are drinking Pepsi instead of Coke. Don't get that. Can someone explain?

Yeh, it was me that said that and I stick to my stance. I think that it is extremely bad to break the law but pot users do it for no good reason. It is in my opinion the root of alot of problems in this country, including over crowded prisons and illegal border crossings. Pot smokers often don't think of what pot does to them or to other people. One thing is that the whole process of getting the pot to them is the root of many deaths. When the pot is grown it is often used to finance illegal resistance movements, which in turn kill many people. When it is brought across the border it is done illegally, but sometimes it is sneaked across in the middle of the desert and the people who try to get through the desert often die. Anyone who smokes pot is basicly saying that those things are acceptable and not worth fighting for because that will entail them stopping getting high. If a little happiness is worth many people's lives being put in danger then those people deserve neither happiness or my respect. I am rambling by this point so I will just stop now.

 

[Mescalhead]

So you are pro-legalization?

 

[h4ppy]

Originally posted by Mescalhead
So you are pro-legalization?

If your asking me then no I'm against legalization, it causes kids to be more concerned with getting high then with school work and can ruin peoples lives. The stuff I said above was just one of the things I have against pot and pot smokers.

 

[Mescalhead]

The criminalization of pot also leads to the above mentioned.

 

[samildanach]

I think that rather than try to change your perspective and sense of self through drugs, you should attempt it through physical challenges eg. climb that mountain. Both types of challenge can provide a degree of personal validation and both can also tell you stuff about yourself that you don't like but unlike drugs, mountains don't tend to sneak up on you.

 

[Mescalhead]

Mountain climbing doesn't provide any major production of anandamides or their analogs. Marijuana intoxication provides a very specific type of perceptual and cognitive alteration. If there is some way to attain this then by all means show me. Unfortunately, the mystic states attained by meditation do not last long after the session has ceased.

 

[samildanach]

I'm glad you have such great time. But while I enjoyed it very much for six months or so I didn't have quite that good an experience. After using it more and more heavily I found myself becoming very antsy and aggressive. When I decided that enough was enough and stopped smoking etc. the really **** part was that it took me about 3 months to feel normal again. At least with beer I'm feeling good to go by Wednesday after my last binge.

 

[Mescalhead]

That is the problem with controlled substances, what works for one person is often debilating in some ways to another. Never underestamate the power of the mind to influence the effect of any psychotropic.

 

[Laughing Gull]

there is a reason i am called laughing gull, you know.

 

[Bootstoots]

Never smoked marijuana, and don't plan to either. However, I am in favor of its legalization.

 

[Drewcifer]

Originally posted by h4ppy


One thing is that the whole process of getting the pot to them is the root of many deaths. When the pot is grown it is often used to finance illegal resistance movements, which in turn kill many people.

Actually at this point most of the stuff available in North America is grown by small scale entrepeneurs in the US and Canada. What you said is true about cocaine and heroin though.

 

[Pontiuth Pilate]

I am an artist and plan to work in either music or science, so I definitely plan to take it when of legal age, either in Canada or Holland.

MJ is a mental drug in ways that the other common drugs [alcohol and nicotine] are not. Getting high is more than just a visceral effect; it literally takes you "outside the box". In the 60s, for example, the artists who were trying pot [Bob Dylan and John Lennon to take two examples] were rocketing ahead of their counterparts. The reason that Day Tripper and Tomorrow Never Knows sound like they were written and performed by two different groups is because they WERE written and performed by two [mentally] different groups.

At several discrete points in my life [usually after acheiving something big] I have noticed a temporary change in my perception that I can't exactly describe. It's as if you discover you've taken the shapes, colors, etc of objects for granted - as if you take a sideways glance at something and jump to the conclusion of what it IS because of long habit. I found that you can't look for long at any thing because you become completely absorbed in its novelty, in things you have not noticed before. You see I can't explain it very well

However I won't take mj often [for fear of addiction], and I will DEFINITELY not try any hard drugs [alcohol, nicotine, cocaine, etc]

For me, mj is the same as good music or an interesting discussion. It's a philosophical tool.

 

[andrewgprv]

Edited, probably wasn't appropriate for the public forum, I will PM you Pontiuth