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I said about a week, not exactly; though in any case, I've taken extra time to flesh out how the economy is measured/computed and the update won't be coming out today.
J.K. Stockholme
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BT Update 4 - 2160-2180
The Daily Standard
GLOBAL NEWS
SCRAMBLE FOR SMALL ISLANDS WORLD-OVER
Isolated from civilization since the great commerce raiding of the 21st century, most of the worlds ocean islands were barely populated by the beginning of the 2160s. The centralization of many countries and the development of colonial administration, along with enlarged navies have allowed these islands to become forward bases of modernity for ambitious oceanic powers. The Atlantic has been the most hotly contested, from Iceland to the Caribbean to Cape Verde. The English navy has been by far the most successful, securing Madeira, the Azores, part of Iceland, Gibraltar, Cape Verde, St. Helena and Sao Tome. Brazilian, Canadian and Algerian attempts to claim islands failed in the face of Englands experienced and impressive navy, though part of the Canaries went to Algeria anyway, with Gibraltar also surrounded by Algeria. In the Caribbean, Jamaica was the pawn of imperial competition between Venezuela and Mexico, while an attempt to include Cuba in Dixielands sphere of influence was only cut short by a UC invasion. Meanwhile in the Indian Ocean Sri Lanka has finally exerted its independence in the face of repeated Pakistani and Chennai colonization attempts, while the Arab Sultanates have grabbed various Indian Ocean islands themselves. In the Pacific, Taiwan has finally become partially settled by the Peoples Republic, while New Zealand has taken minor islands, and Indonesia begins to settle southern Philippines. The countries involved in these acquisitions have been almost exclusively subscribers to some kind of modernist project, whether it be simple statism, religion, or one of many ideologies. The world is reconnecting, for better or worse, and the maritime expansions seen these past two decades were the initiatives of modernist forces, not reactionary ones.
EUROPEAN NEWS
BAVARIAN PUBLIC EDUCATION BEST IN WORLD
Though unable to reach its lofty goal of universal tertiary education, funding into university education has produced the most thoroughly indoctrinated public in the world if not also one of the most specialized and educated. If anything, the over-education of its populace may become a problem, as Bavaria is increasingly dependent on largely Hungarian agriculture for its domestic stability and quality of life, its own population disproportionately involved in advanced industry and commerce.
LOMBARD LEAGUE HUMILIATED IN WAR WITH FRANCE, SERBIA
The Lombard League has been beaten by the two front war it fought with Serbia and France, losing large amounts of land and key cities to both powers. At first Serbia appeared placated by the release of inland Croatia, and the Lombard League was free to apply the fullest pressure it could towards the sought-after capture of Paris. When France began to ratchet up its usual war propaganda, relations were cut, military plans put on schedule, and Lombard forces launched down the Loire, while French forces swooped up the Dordogne. With the bulk of forces (including all of the Leagues small air force) headed towards Paris, French soldiers quickly occupied up the Dordogne, and moved to cut into the supply lines of the Loire assault from behind. It was at this point that the remaining forces of the Leagues extended empire were pulled to defend Loire from behind, and when Serbia took its grand opportunity in immediately putting Dalmatia and Istria under siege, preventing some of those forces from going to France at all. Though well fed and well supplied by the navy, Serbias decisive ground victories allowed the army to push through Istria, and begin threatening Venice, putting the League in a difficult position by the end of the second year of fighting. The Loire armies headed to Paris were encircled, and Lombardys plans in the west changed to purely defensive ones to protect the Provencal mountains which they did, halting the French, whom stopped at the Rhone, keeping what they had occupied, effectively ending hostilities there as the Dalmatian coast fell, and Serbia agreed to leave Istria to the Lombards.
COMMERCIAL FLIGHT RESTARTS DURING RELATIVE EUROPEAN PEACE
Sans the eastern and western portions of the Lombard League, Europes relative peace has allowed for the beginning of commercial flight between its various nations, particularly to and from northern Germany, where aircraft technology is the most advanced in the world. This has exclusively benefitted the wealthy and the powerful, and those ideologues and writers that are given patronage from said elites, but nonetheless the spread of knowledge and ideology has been facilitated by this trend.
HUNGARY BECOMES FEDERATION, INTRODUCES MARKET REFORMS
Unable to cope with a growing capitalist class within its vast reach, the largely still rural Hungarian socialist republic has adopted a federal system, and introduced market reforms which allow small-scale private ownership of the means of production. The state has continued to operate as normal, though now working with an economic rather than a bureaucratic elite when it comes to planning the economys future.
NORTH AND SOUTH AMERICAN NEWS
CANADA ADOPTS FRENCH-ENGLISH MULTICULTURALISM
Attempting to mend the rift between English Canadian and French Canadian interests, the monarchy established a policy of equality between the two language groups, and the past twenty years have seen substantial linguistic intermingling. This has not resulted in some kind of new language, and French speakers in Quebec have obstinately prevented much English incursion into major Quebec cities or farmlands, which has infuriated the English community, whom see this as immense ingratitude. Tensions still exist, but are manageable for now.
DIXIELAND EXILED TO BAHAMAS, EXHAUSTING WAR ENDS IN UC VICTORY
The past twenty years have seen the fundamental geopolitical reshaping of North America, starting with what initially was seen as the liberal excess of Dixieland in Cuba. With a short supply line between the southernmost point of Florida and Cuba, Dixieland was able supply a beachhead which the small Cuban army found impossible to stop. Initial Dixie intentions were publicly made clear to be either annexation or regime change, so long as Cuba was ruled democratically, and with a large army Dixieland found itself nearly to Guantanamo when the United Commons began a large-scale mobilization, to which Dixieland responded by slowing its advance to send troops back to the American border. By the beginning of next year, before Cuba had been fully occupied, the UC declared war and the entire breadth of the UC-Dixie border was engulfed in a monstrously huge war. All Dixie forces left Cuba, claiming mission success prematurely, after setting up a weak republican government. The following half-decade would never see either side decisively control the air, though UC technical advances in young missile technology and tactics of concentrated fire would slowly break the Dixie lines, pushing them back a little each year. It was in the fourth year of Yankee-Dixie war that Dixieland made a counter-attack, pushing up along the coast, breaking UC lines with help from their navy into Virginia, and though the move did distract UC forces, requiring they retake territories won in the first war with Dixieland at a large financial and material cost, the move was the last significant operation started by Dixieland. Without any sign of UC interests in a reasonable peace, Dixie forces held the slowly retreating line, incurring as much cost as possible on the UC government as they could. The war was won, and for whatever it was worth, the weak republican Cuba was given Cuban populated Florida, but the costs of the war would not finish sinking in until 2180. The UC side of the war, despite outward appearances of unity, was utterly politically divided between the clades contributing forces to the war effort, with constant conflict over rights to capture or occupation of territories, as different clades staked claims to territory and infrastructure. The size of the war, bringing the entirety of Dixieland into the UC, and the enormous cost magnified the fractures. Multiple incidents of internal disagreement resulting in deliberate occasional friendly fire between brigades funded and armed by Koch Industries and those from Ares or the western agribusinesses and these disagreements became extremely regional over time, pitting Tyson-Smithfield and Cargill and the Farmers Cooperative often in direct and explicit competition with a broad coalition of eastern-based companies, with both also against the Madison-Hamilton-Jay clade, which Dixie citizens have doubled the membership of and basically infiltrated. After the war, integration of the new lands has been just as cutthroat, with minor skirmishes occasionally happening far away in heartland UC cities between various clades security forces over claims and the real value of each clades contribution.
NORTH AMERICAN PEACE ALLIANCE FORMS
Fearing UC warmongering, the Mormons, Baptists and Prairie people have agreed to a defensive alliance, the first continental wide alliance system since the beginning of the century, and pledge to defend one another in the event of UC aggression. They have argued however that this should not and does not change their positive economic relations with the UC, and as of yet, tariffs or other economically aggressive actions have yet to be taken, perhaps securing peace on the continent.
VENEZUELA DOMINATES CARIBBEAN TRADE, COMPETES FOR JAMAICA
The largest producer in consumer goods in the western hemisphere, Venezuela has made concerted efforts to expand its trade opportunities and has created a near monopoly over Caribbean trade; a deal does not happen without Venezuelan agreement. The leftist dictatorship has also started elections again in a move to be inclusive to the new Caribbean community of islands now orbiting Venezuelas production heartland. Mexican attempts to gain Jamaica, though they began on good footing, were thwarted by the speedy taking of Kingston by Venezuela. The island remains effectively divided, with neither country making any suggestions for its future. Caribbean trade, it seems, has become extremely valuable, with the Panama Canal beginning to see increased transit from Peru and the rest of South America, and increasing trade down the east coast to Brazil as well.
SAO FRANCISCO CLAIMS TITLE OF BRAZIL, STEADILY GROWS
Sao Francisco has made continuous progress towards becoming a serious military and economic power in South America, fully knowledgeable of their trading position in the central Atlantic. Though their attempts to gain Cape Verde failed, westward expansion into the Amazons has been peaceful and successful, while they have developed a diversified and competitive economy and military. The clear provocation of self-titling itself Brazil has brought a new tension between Sao Francisco and Sao Paulo since the end of Sao Paulos conquest of Rio. Sao Paulos enormous military-industrial complex and huge standing army have implied threat to Sao Francisco for many years, but only the next few decades will determine whether Brazil will become united under the name-sake again.
BRUTAL GUERILLA WAR LASTS 8 YEARS IN GAUCHO REPUBLIC
A new theme in South American history has been cemented with the spread of subversive Gaucho Republicanism; once a kind of cowboy people with a rebel spirit, the Gaucho Republic has endured the most difficult trial of its history, facing its own near-destruction by the National Corporations of La Plata and the hermit dictatorship of Peru. The envy of so many warmongers, La Plata was able to muster as close as any nation has come since the 21st century to a total war in its rampage into the Gaucho Republic. The destruction of the conventional Gaucho army was never in doubt; La Platas total air superiority prevented any sizeable army from being out of sight, and La Plata always had numerical advantage on the ground. The Gaucho army was immediately refitted for guerilla warfare as La Plata pushed into former Argentina, eventually crossing into Paraguay. Using forests which had regrown (and hadnt been chopped down by industrialization) over the past century, a long-established civilian occupation network, in coordination with a spy community which had also enduring ties within La Plata itself even before the war, a destructive and bloody guerilla war was very successfully executed, slowing La Platas movement down to a crawl, and preventing any of the territories La Plata occupied from ever being fully occupied. Often during this time the countryside would be controlled by Gaucho militias in the night, and La Platan occupiers in the day, or some other combination of partial control. Perus war was undertaken as something between guerilla combat and conventional war, with the entire campaign being about dominating mountain passes and valleys. The Peruvian navy had little effect in the west, seeing as Bolivia barely exported anyway, and agonizing harassment entirely halted Peruvian movement on land, lest they find themselves in an unexpected ambush. During the five years of occupation, setbacks, harassment, and slaughter, a daring secret plan for general revolt was set in motion, and in the seventh year of the war, a general uprising in occupied territories overwhelmed La Platas forces temporarily. Paraguay was re-secured, and after a few more La Platan and Peruvian attempts to put themselves in a good position to negotiate, a final peace was made, giving La Plata major concessions of former Argentina, and Peru minor concessions along the coast. The struggle for freedom, however, and the spirit of revolution, have perhaps irreparably been impressed into the minds of the lower classes of La Plata and Peru, but La Plata especially, where industrial centralization has resulted in a large proletariat interested in such ideals.
AFRICAN AND MIDDLE EASTERN NEWS
TURKEY DESTABILIZED BY COSTLY WAR
The very nature of Turkish politics and statehood have been under question since the doubling-down of Turkish ambitions for Alexandria. More and more presidential authority had to be asserted to convince a tortuously unhappy public and slow parliament that the war was meaningful at all. The Turkish navy was increased in size, with the expectation that, with a larger carrying capacity for troops, a beachhead might finally be made near Alexandria. The Egyptians were more than prepared to harass the Turkish navy by air and destroy any landing so close to its major cities precisely where the army is most usually around. Eventually, with democratic approval at a low, and over a year and half into the war, an invasion of Cyrenaica was undertaken, far away from major Egyptian stations of troops. The Turkish army, fighting with extended and harassed supply lines over difficult desert or semi-desert terrain against an experienced and sizeable foe, could never get anywhere near Alexandria, and a settlement gave the Turks land in the Cyrenaica instead.
SECOND IRAN-IRAQ WAR BLOODY AND LONG
After one of the longest wars of the past couple decades the hubris of Iraqs military strategists would be thoroughly dispelled with their eventual humbling defeat by Irans armed forces. Over seven years of bloody violence with equally efficient murdering machines on either side ultimately was hardly a victory for either country. Though the first couple years of war saw Iraqs army push down the Gulf on both its sides, Irans strategic retreat from both areas was a measured attempt to pull together the resources to invade southern Iraq in a counter-offensive which was successfully executed over the following two years, leaving the Arabian coast behind as their forces marched to Baghdad. Urban warfare and slow sieges marked the last half of the war, with equally brutal casualties on either side forcing the war into a very close conflict. Baghdad was not taken, and by the time Iraqi forces finally rescued some of their captured southern cities, both countries were exhausted from conflict; a very minor peace deal closed this unpleasant chapter, with neither side happy budging over their border, Iran demanded release of Egypts lands up to (but not including) the Suez.
UNEASY WEST AFRICAN PEACE
A cautious and suspicious peace between Mali and Burkina Faso has endured for twenty years, allowing each to begin alternative projects from war. Few revolts took place under Malian control in former Guinea, but the extra army presence has secured the region for the past twenty years. Meanwhile Burkina Faso has been able to settle westward, the Saharans expanded their federation of tribes east into Niger, while a Nigerian-Arewa War failed to materialize.
SUDAN CONQUERED
Launching a strong conventional offensive, Ethiopia made multiple devastating inroads in both south and north Sudan within the first year of war. The Sudanese army regrouped for a final offensive to maintain its corporate oil holdings, but was unlucky, forcing the destruction of their standing army in favour of ethnic and guerilla warfare. This was the primary impediment to installing order in Ethiopias conquest, with economic terrorism and occasional revolts an ongoing issue, and though oil among other resources are flowing well, the region remains hostile to Ethiopias government.
TANZANIAN RAIDS KEEP NEIGHBOURS QUESTIONING
Unlike the vast majority of wars over the past century, Tanzania attacked Mozambique solely to raid its countryside. A tiny amount of wealth was looted, but the small Mozambique army huddled mainly to its port cities, where the real wealth of Indian Ocean trade is stored. Tanzania took effective control of minor border territories, and has kept itself unpredictable, keeping enemies wary of its intentions.
SOUTH AFRICA ESTABLISHES STRONG TRADING POSITION
The past twenty years have seen oceanic trade expand from minor interaction in limited sea regions to major interaction in said regions, and minor interaction between oceans, putting South Africa in a valuable position between the South Atlantic and the Indian Ocean. The liberal capitalist regime of Delmain has embraced the position, pushing up the Angolan coast to expand the range of trade in South African and regional produce to their benefit.
ASIAN AND PACIFIC NEWS
PAKISTAN IN ONGOING CHAOS
Reform protests had been mounting in increasing number over the past couple decades, culminating in a massacre orchestrated by corporate police in Pakistan proper. Industrial production had created a sizeable proletariat in major cities, and along with bitter relations with various Indian peoples along the Ganges (many of the communist flavour), general instability became very noticeable in past decade. Multiple assassination attempts have been thwarted, though one bombing successfully murdered a director of the board. The biggest turning point however came with the conclusion of the Second Iran-Iraq War, after which considerable foreign influence has been exerted by proxies in Afghanistan, where local leaders have been more aggressive in their demands for autonomy. Any kind of trigger could begin an internal conflict, though where and when, and with whose backing, remains to be seen.
KOREA PARTITIONED BY FORMER ALLY AND JAPAN
Declining to participate against the Kingdom of China, the Far Eastern Republic instead put its military strength against its former ally, Korea, partitioning the state between itself and Japan. The betrayal continues to be angrily remembered among Koreans, and neither Japan nor the FER are respected for their imperial conquest. In any case, the victory was extremely decisive, and became a kind of race between the FER and Japan to acquire more territory than the other before the end of the first and only year of fighting.
KINGDOM OF CHINA MAKES GAINS AGAINST PEOPLES REPUBLIC OF CHINA
The next phase of war and famine has resulted in slow but definite northern strategic and territorial gains on the Peoples Republic of China. The north in the year before war formally changed its government into a monarchy, providing feudal-like privileges and the glories of conquest to warlords whom served under it. The structural change, along with the horde size of the northern armies, combined with a monarchist alternative to communism, gave the north enough advantage to punish the south for its advance the decades before. The southern advantage, as it had always been, was genuine economic progress, both industrial and civilian, however the key military actors, local leaders and warlords, were less persuaded by these southern bounties than northern protection and the opportunity to take what they liked from conquered lands. The eastern plains were the pivotal site of battle, and several years of back and forth gave the north slow progress. The conflict petered out with unbearable casualties in the south, and the eventual shrinking of the northern economy by exhaustion and air attacks, though a final round of war is unmistakeably on the horizon, with the fate of all of China in question.
IDEOLOGIES SPREAD WITH GROWING EAST ASIAN TRADE
Much as merchants of the pre-modern and early modern era brought with them their religion, in this second modern era continuous trading networks foster ideological bonds between sometimes far off places. The growth of East Asian trade has brought tenets of communism and Islamism across the South China Sea and Indochina, and some effects are even reaching northern Japan. Though largely a passive aggression, the tenets of Islam and of communism have created soft power blocs across the area, and though few are becoming devout in either ideology, the ripples are being felt in trade relations.
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@Arrow Gamer, Azale, mrrandomplayer: all three of you overspent.
As can probably be deduced, each BT has been a dedicated experiment in different new mechanics or NES ideas; I began with almost nothing beyond the front page, and have paced myself in introducing progressively more detailed warfare, international trade, economic growth, propaganda, etc. For the last turn of the BT I will be entirely transparent with what I want to implement: revolutions, civil wars, coups, revolts and the effects of (and causes of) stability and instability generally. So it should not be a surprise if the odds of the aforementioned events happening are surprisingly higher than you might expect, especially for great or regional powers.
As usual, mistakes/criticism via PM is preferable.
MUST READ RULE CHANGEs:
Firstly, ALL orders are to be sent by PRIVATE MESSAGE. Its time for things to start being secret.
Secondly, all great powers may now attempt to integrate or colonize any minor or secondary power. Regional powers are allowed to try integrating or colonizing any minor power. Yes Im talking about the NPCs, largely. Countries can still also try colonizing/integrating blank territories at the same time. Attempting to integrate/colonize a fully developed country is not a guarantee, and it could turn into a war, but this is the first and only time you have the opportunity to possibly get a freebie (and reduce my work-load, b/c I have too many NPCs). Further, stability bonuses wont be granted automatically for not colonizing/integrating.
Finally, the first generation / fourth generation rule change is still in effect; if you are a first generation country, you get 1 fewer policies, if you are a fourth generation country, you get 1 more policies, and if youre a fifth generation country, you get 2 more policies. Largely this only affects me though because Im in charge of the fifth and fourth generation NPCs.
For now, well make the next deadline Tuesday, 4th of March.
J.K. Stockholme
Right Opposition
ALSO, I will now do diplomacy for NPCs, fire away, public or private.
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Firstly, excellent update.
Secondly, I'm surprised the prairies signed a defensive agreement against the UC; traditionally they have been our allies and friends- our first and foremost trading and military partners. Hopefully they can join an alliance with us instead.
Secondly, I'm surprised the prairies signed a defensive agreement against the UC; traditionally they have been our allies and friends- our first and foremost trading and military partners. Hopefully they can join an alliance with us instead.
Thirdly, you should consider moving the first generation rule to include the second generation powers, such that both generation 1 and generation 2 are limited to one military improvement point (or else remove the reduction for first generation nations). I'd graph the military improvement graphs to show you why but don't have graphing software on my home computer. In the same vein, fourth generation powers should not receive a bonus military point BUT fifth generation nations should. Again, to make my point i would need graphing software but i think if you think about it, it will become obvious to you. Please consider this- ultimately balance is very important in NESing and if you want to slow early nations, thats fine, but the current model REALLY discriminates against first generation nations considerably.
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To: Venezuela
From: Mexico
Mexico is very displeased with your provocative land grab in Jamaica after Mexico had already made it clear it was claiming Jamaica. The situation can still be salvaged if you agree to negotiate a return of a unified Jamaica to Mexico. So what is your response?
From: Mexico
Mexico is very displeased with your provocative land grab in Jamaica after Mexico had already made it clear it was claiming Jamaica. The situation can still be salvaged if you agree to negotiate a return of a unified Jamaica to Mexico. So what is your response?
Bair_the_Normal
転輪聖王
Prior to his ban, he had already switched to Indonesia.
SouthernKing
crickety cricket
I don't think he's coming back.
mrrandomplayer
Hopeless Situation Warrior
Good update!
Turkey has officially decided to stop military efforts to further inavde Egypt; it's unpopular and while Cyrenaica is not ideal, it will work as a base in Africa.
To: Egypt
From: Turkey
Turkey is willing to propose a 50-year ceasefire.
Turkey has officially decided to stop military efforts to further inavde Egypt; it's unpopular and while Cyrenaica is not ideal, it will work as a base in Africa.
To: Egypt
From: Turkey
Turkey is willing to propose a 50-year ceasefire.
Great update, surprised I did so well since I can't perform basic arithmetic 
Very excited for NES proper, hope at least some of Ethiopia lives. Kinda wish it ended right now, the current setup for my country is pretty exciting.
For this turn's orders, did you want us to just delineate where fissures in politics are? Should we incorporate instability into our orders, or just kinda do as we normally do and let you handle it?
Very excited for NES proper, hope at least some of Ethiopia lives. Kinda wish it ended right now, the current setup for my country is pretty exciting.
For this turn's orders, did you want us to just delineate where fissures in politics are? Should we incorporate instability into our orders, or just kinda do as we normally do and let you handle it?
ChineseWarlord
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Great update I suppose, but...darn it! I really thought I would destroy the Guacho republic. Oh well, you can't win em' all I guess.
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From Bavaria
To France
We cool, bro?
To France
We cool, bro?
Golden1Knight
Emperor
Great update, its seems that I'll have a big challenge to unite Brazil.
J.K. Stockholme
Right Opposition
The math works out like this:
1st Gen: 3 + 3 + 3 + 2 = 11
2nd Gen: 0 + 3 + 3 + 3 = 9
3rd Gen: 0 + 0 + 3 + 3 = 6
4th Gen: 0 + 0 + 0 + 4 = 4
5th Gen: 0 + 0 + 0 + 0 = 0
So first gen countries have gained 3 points for the first 3 turns, and 2 for the last one etc.
after the next turn:
11 + 2 = 13
9 + 3 = 12
6 + 3 = 9
4 + 4 = 8
0 + 5 = 5
My interest was reducing the disproportion caused by length of existence (to keep younger countries more competitive). If anything I'd be more inclined to provide fifth/fourth generation powers even more points to try and bring some diversity to their stats. Having three blocs (first/second, third/fourth, fifth) separated by 3 points doesn't appear that considerable (or unfair) a disadvantage to first gens to me. Perhaps your graph would indicate otherwise?
@Azale: actually yes, that'd be very helpful; who you expect to revolt, who you expect will make attempts on the lives of your leaders, or, if your inclined, what kind of revolution your radicals might want. If the players don't provide it then I'll have to make this all up.
@Everblack: didn't make the update, but it's in my notes.
Public Diplomacy:
From Venezuela
To Mexico
The Caribbean is our backyard, you'd be best advised to leave Jamaica and not risk your economic future on threatening the pre-eminent trade power between you and South America's markets.
From France
To Bavaria
Leave Belgium alone and we're cool bro.
From Egypt
To Turkey
We stopped you before, we'll stop you again, or maybe we'll push you out - either way, we decline your offer for 50 years of non-aggression.
Grandkhan
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If you only consider military development:
Using your method, you arrive at:
1st gen: 2+2+2+1+1=8
2nd gen: 2+2+2+2=8
3rd gen: 2+2+2=6
4th gen: 3+3=6
5th gen: 3=3
This suggests that an extra 20 years of development failed to assist both 1st generation nations (vis-à-vis 2nd generation nations) and 3rd generation nations (vis-à-vis 4th generation nations).
Using my suggested method, you arrive at:
1st gen: 2+2+2+1+1=8
2nd gen: 2+2+2+1=7
3rd gen: 2+2+2=6
4th gen: 3+2=5
5th gen: 3=3
8,7, 6, 5, 3, that seems linear and yet proportionally awards more to the late comers.
I feel the second method scales more smoothly. In this way, even though later nations catch up, the early investments of older nations are not completely without value.
J.K. Stockholme
Right Opposition
I think the intrinsic benefit of being able to take territories and make investments earlier is quite substantial itself - the majority of great powers and regional powers are first generation after all.
As well, I don't buy that it is suggested that 20 years of development are neglected - 2nd generation (and 4th gen) countries can choose to invest in the economy over the military (which many have). As well, if we buy your reasoning, we're saying by default all first generation countries should have superior armed forces by 2200 (all else being equal), which was an imbalance I wanted to rectify, to keep younger nations competitive at the start of the NES.
I appreciate the proposal, but I'm going to rule against it this time.
