Pred 02

[predesad]

Why are we building the Knights Templar? This game will be over in 20-30 turns: by the time it's finished (14 turns), plus 5 for the first Crusader to pop out, plus another however many for it to arrive at the front....

if that is so (not sure because i havent really looked at a save lately) then i will switch the build to something else

 

[predesad]

you're right eldar, prolly about 20 turns, i've taken 3 or 4 turns tonight & i think i already have enough settlers (depending upon how many rival cities get auto-razed), it's just a matter of finishing off the rest of the pangea & getting the right culture expansions

 

[predesad]

sorry guys, still working on it, think I am on turn 7 right now, tomorrow night i will give it to the next player, but i actually hope to finish the turns tomorrow night, really stressed for time right now, baseball season is killing me right now

 

[predesad]

Pre-Flight

we have 36% area & 67% pop, i am betting we'll need to conquer the whole continent. agreed with eldar, KT not needed, switched production to knight at a loss of 20 shields

change production in other cities:
Badajoz: harbor - settler
Sao Paula: market - settler
Atlanta: market -settler (wastes shields)
Entremont: market - temple (wastes 13 shields)
Barcelona: barracks - temple
NY: market - settler
Alesia: market - settler
Braga: galley - knight
Sagres: galley - settler
Gergovia: aqueduct: settler
Agedincum: harbor - settler
Rio Janeiro: aqueduct - temple
Oslo: barracks - temple
Luanda: market - temple
Alcacer do Sol: harbor - settler
Toledo: barracks - temple; convert scientist to taxman
Guarda: aqueduct - settler
Viseu: barracks - wealth (wastes 2 shields)

wake several elite units which are lying around doing nothing & are nowhere near the battlefireld, looks like they were fortified in cities to heal maybe and then overlooked??

sell Lit to Germany for 39 G
sell Lit to Mongols for 34 G
sell Lit to Byz for 63 G + 4 gpt

turn off luxury rate - 100% tax rate

I - Lisbon - knight - knight, Entremont - temple - settler, Boston - settler - wealth, Sagres - settler - settler, Gergovia - settler - wealth, Atlanta - settler - settler, Faro - settler - settler, Rio Janiero - tmeple - wealth, Guardo - settler - settler,

1 - 130 AD - med inf def barb horse & goes elite, rush temple in Augustodurum & Castelo Branco

I - Mongols DoW on us, off load sword / archer near Lisbon; Coimbra - Knight - Knight, Augustodurum - temple - wealth, Castelo Branco - tmeple - wealth

2 - 150 AD - Sao Mamede founded, forest cleared in Luanda, Ourique founded, knight def sword, AC def archer, rush settler in Madrid, cancel some uneeded temple builds, change to wealth, Oslo from temple to settler, rush settler in Camulodunum

I - Madrid - settler - wealth, Guimaraes - market - knight, Camulodunum - temple - wealth; 2 med inf def 2 viking swords, 1 goes elite; Goa founded; new units staying home for defense against Mongols

3 - 170 AD - rush temple in Toledo

I - sagres - settler - temple

4 - 190 AD - rush temple in Seville; change production in Oslo to temple

I -

5 - 210 AD - 4 trebs hit spears in Copenhagen, Elite Knight def spear, Leader (Viriato) generated, vet knight def spear & captures Copenhagen (production - temple); Viriato builds army in Copenhagen; elite AC def archer outside Copenhagen; load 2 vet knights in army; Diu founded (wealth); 2 med inf def 2 spears & capture Stockholm (temple); rush temple in Sao Mamede & Oslo; med inf disperses barb camp

I - Lisbon - knight - knight, Oporto - temple - wealth, Oslo - temple - settler, resistance in Stickholm & Copenhagen ends, Sao Mamede - temple - settler

6 - 230 AD - load elite knight which had spawned viriato into army; rush temple in Stockholm

I - Stockholm - temple - wealth,

7 - 250 AD - Army def 3 spears at Trondheim, Elite Knight def spear, capture Trondheim, pyramids & 1 worker (temple); rush temples in Verulamium & Washington, rush settler in Badajoz

I - Washington - temple - wealth, Lugdunum - knight - knight, Lagos - FP - knight, Braga - knight - galley (a few other cities on coast builds changed to galley for possible invasion of Mongols), Verulamium - temple - wealth, Luanda - temple - wealth, Alcacer do Sal - settler - wealth, Badajoz - settler - wealth,

8 - 260 AD - elite knight def archer, 2 trebs bomb archer to 1 HP * elite horse defeats; rush temple in Leira, rush temple in Copenhagen

I - Copenhagen - temple - settler, Leiria - temple - wealth, Evora - knight - knight

9 - 270 AD - we decalre on Germany; elite horse kills viking archer, elite sword kills german spear captures settler; rush settler in Madrid, rush temple in Troundheim

I - Madrid - settler - settler, Trondheim - temple - settler, Guimaraes & Emerita - knight - knight, Sagres - knight - galley, Faro - settler - wealth

10 - 280 AD - army kills spear inm Lepzig; Atlanta rush temple, Richborough rush temple

territory - 51%, pop - 71%

planned to take a couple more turns, but gotta give it up, a couple units may be on goto orders, sorry, like knights headed to cities building galleys & workers headed to new territory, an invasion of the mongols might help our cause if we can grab a couple cities. tried to open civassist to get a tile count, it kept freezing up, but finally got it, need 177 tiles

knights in core area have been fortified as well as other units here and there for defense from possible sea invasions, a couple med inf fortified outside former viking cities in case of flips.

we are at war with everyone but Byz

1) DBear -
2) Predesad - just finished
3) Eldar - UP
4) Mach - on deck
5) Mathias -

 

[eldar]

Got it. 177 tiles.

 

[Mach]

Go team go! Will I get to play this again?

 

[eldar]

Go team go! Will I get to play this again?

Nope!

Not that I bothered with a turn log... but here's the highlights of the last 10 turns:

- Wipe out the last German cities - aaaaaaaaaaaaargh! Settler-in-Galley . Rush Galleys to sink theirs, Germans dead.
- Wipe out the last Viking cities - no Settlers-in-Galleys
- Get another MGL, new Knight Army that does nothing!
- Declare on Byzantines just 'cos, and clear them off OUR continent.
- Land a bunch of Knights on the Mongol Iron, and pillage it. They keep attacking - boy do they have a lot of units.
- Domination win in 390AD!

Final save attached. And a nice big end-of-it-all piccie for the lurkerz.

Great game peeps!

Neil

 

[Mach]

Nice, 390AD, and a continent all to ourselves!

 

[Mathias]

Very nice. Were my marketplaces useful, or a waste of resources?

 

[predesad]

i would say useful, not just in the extra gold generated, but in keeping those larger pop cities happy, i never had any war weariness concerns, although that might have been because of short length of wars, i didnt exactly do any analysis, but i am a big fan of markets.

 

[predesad]

okay, i just looked in the HOF for a comparison to see how well we did as far as a fast finish, on emporer level, standard map for domination this game would have placed 3rd, the only 2 entries with a faster finish were both the Iroquois (a much better civ w/ a great UU, we never even got to our UU) and thosae games only beat us by a few turns, #2 - 330 AD, #1 - 300 AD.

Good job to all.

I am now going to take a leave of abscence on SG's so that I can concentrate on my HOF Quartermaster's bid.

 

[eldar]

IIRC we never had a Golden Age.

 

[AndrewN]

Lurkers comment: Wow, way to go guys

I think you need to go up to Demigod

IIRC we never had a Golden Age.

You did, The SoZ gave it to you in 470BC

 

[eldar]

Ahh - we must've captured the Colossus by then

 

[predesad]

Ahh - we must've captured the Colossus by then

IIRC, The Colossus was in Washington, but I neglected to mention it during my turn summary, at the time I had not thought of its usefulness regarding GA.

I think you need to go up to Demigod

I agree, originally I wanted to play a succession of SG's on Emporer level, but i am thinking if there is a PRED - 03 it will be demigod, although I might still be interested in an Emporer level SG with other players moving up from regent / monarch.