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Ursa says the AI is much more competent
Quill18 says they are limited to an hour of gameplay

 

[Geminus Leonem]

Nook's preview seems to have spoiled the missing leaders. Frederick and Himiko will have 2 personas and the missing leader is José Rizal

 

[Historrick]

Nook's preview seems to have spoiled the missing leaders. Frederick and Himiko will have 2 personas and the missing leader is José Rizal

I think this probably confirms Germany/Prussia over Britain. No way they'd release Britain without a British leader.

 

[queenpea]

Marbozir's one is out.

Ursa as well

 

[Potworny]

I'm completely overstimulated right now. Who do I watch first?

Absolutely love the choice of Jose Rizal, gotta learn everything about him.

 

[Archanist]

Absolutely love the choice of Jose Rizal, gotta learn everything about him.

. . . I can nerd out about this, though I'll wait for the first look and info dump there

 

[JNR13]

I think this probably confirms Germany/Prussia over Britain. No way they'd release Britain without a British leader.

one of the Frederick personas shows "unlocks Prussia". It's over for Britain.

 

[Potworny]

. . . I can nerd out about this, though I'll wait for the first look and info dump there

I'm interested! I also think about finding Noli me tangere now, maybe I'll manage to read it before release. I love this choice, I was really hoping for someone at least art-adjacent.

 

[Archanist]

I'm interested! I also think about finding Noli me tangere now, maybe I'll manage to read it before release. I love this choice, I was really hoping for someone at least art-adjacent.

I remember having to read Noli and the sequel El Filibusterismo for high school. I might re read them cuz of this.


If you're looking for English titles, Noli Me Tangere is also titled "The Social Cancer" and El Fili is also titled "The Reign of Greed"

 

[queenpea]

one of the Frederick personas shows "unlocks Prussia". It's over for Britain.

I'm honestly shocked. Both by the news and by how it was delivered.

Side note: including "Prussia," but not "Germany" points enthusiastically to a future fourth age.

 

[Uberfrog]

I'm completely overstimulated right now. Who do I watch first?

Absolutely love the choice of Jose Rizal, gotta learn everything about him.

Interesting that we have two southeast Asian leaders at launch, and three civs, but none of the leaders are related to the civs!

 

[chaosprophet]

Damn, all revealed in one shot. I have a Filipino friend who will likely love the inclusion of Jose Rizal.

 

[playshogi]

one of the Frederick personas shows "unlocks Prussia". It's over for Britain.

Firaxis has rejected the offer of "a trade agreement with England".

 

[Ebon-Hawke-]

Interesting that we have two southeast Asian leaders at launch, and three civs, but none of the leaders are related to the civs!

I take this as either good news or bad news for planned DLC civs from SEA. With the amount of European, Middle East, central Asia and South American civs people are clamoring for I'm going to guess it's bad news and these leaders will be stand ins for these civs.

Alternatively with Andrew Jackson's focus in SEA history maybe they are going all in on it.

 

[JNR13]

I'm honestly shocked. Both by the news and by how it was delivered.

No, Britain was never quite mentioned the same way as e.g. Mughals or France. No ingame icon, no nothing. Ed Beach was talking about design principles, not the base game civ roster. Just like he did when he talked about having Japan in all three ages. If one listened closely, one could make an accurate prediction of all civs back then already

Side note: including "Prussia," but not "Germany" points enthusiastically to a future fourth age.

I think it's more about splitting up a civ between modern and exploration. Prussia not vs. modern Germany but vs. Medieval Germany. Same with France, a "French Republic" civ in a 4th age would be weird because one might not pick a republican government form. But it might as well just be there to distinguish against a medieval "French Kingdom" civ.

If a 4th age were to be set up, then America and Mexico would've gotten a different name. It's only civs who might appear in an *earlier* age at some point who get a name that's not identical with a modern nation state. Those who don't just have the name of their nation state.

 

[chaosprophet]

Firaxis has rejected the offer of "a trade agreement with England".

But then England likely expend all their influence to force the agreement a few turns later (Britain being in crossroads dlc pack on march most likely)

 

[Black Gate]

No, Britain was never quite mentioned the same way as e.g. Mughals or France. No ingame icon, no nothing. Ed Beach was talking about design principles, not the base game civ roster. Just like he did when he talked about having Japan in all three ages. If one listened closely, one could make an accurate prediction of all civs back then already

I think they mean they were shocked at how the news of no Britain was delivered - via snooping about in youtuber videos, rather than some grand anticipated Germany vs Britain final reveal.

I think it's more about splitting up a civ between modern and exploration. Prussia not vs. modern Germany but vs. Medieval Germany. Same with France, a "French Republic" civ in a 4th age would be weird because one might not pick a republican government form. But it might as well just be there to distinguish against a medieval "French Kingdom" civ.

If a 4th age were to be set up, then America and Mexico would've gotten a different name. It's only civs who might appear in an *earlier* age at some point who get a name that's not identical with a modern nation state. Those who don't just have the name of their nation state.

I agree. 19th century France doesn't have a particularly obvious "name" so French Empire is close enough if Firaxis want to distinguish it from Valois/Capetian/Kingdom of France later. But it's a little confusing when they could have simply called it "France" for now and changed the name later.

 

[JNR13]

I think they mean they were shocked at how the news of no Britain was delivered - via snooping about in youtuber videos, rather than some grand anticipated Germany vs Britain final reveal.

I mean, that was Firaxis' intent. One Youtuber just messed up and moused over one of the Frederick portraits while going through the list. He even said he has to skip those when he skipped the other one, but accidentally went over the other persona for a second.

 

[queenpea]

I think they mean they were shocked at how the news of no Britain was delivered - via snooping about in youtuber videos, rather than some grand anticipated Germany vs Britain final reveal.

Yes. Not only no Britain, but the announcement of the remaining leaders and civs. Kind of kills the anticipation game.

 

[stealth_nsk]

Yes. Not only no Britain, but the announcement of the remaining leaders and civs. Kind of kills the anticipation game.

It's less than a month till release. And compared to previous leaks it's not that terrible (and much more controllable).

But I wonder, what kind of embargo is still on if that much information could be shown.