Pringles 'are not potato crisps'

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BREAKING NEWS!!!!!!!!!

HMRC (the taxman) have won an appeal against this decision -- Pringles are officially potato crisps.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8060204.stm

"There is more than enough potato content for it to be a reasonable view that it is made from potato," said Lord Justice Jacob.

Potatoes make up 42% of the Pringles' ingredients.

Spoiler original OP :
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7490346.stm

Pringles 'are not potato crisps'

Potato only makes up 42% of the ingredients of Pringles
Pringles, the popular snack food in a tube, are not potato crisps, a High Court judge has ruled.

Their packaging, "unnatural shape" and the fact that the potato content is less than 50% helped Mr Justice Warren make his crunch decision.

As a result, Pringles, in all flavours are free from Value Added Tax (VAT).

Manufacturer Procter & Gamble (P&G) is likely to save millions of pounds as a result of the decision - with customers also likely to pay less.

Spud impact

P&G had gone to court to challenge a VAT and Duties Tribunal decision that the Pringle was subject to the standard 17.5% rate of VAT because it was "a potato crisp product", which are, unlike most food, subject to the tax.

But the manufacturer had insisted that their best-selling product was not similar to potato crisps, because of their "mouth melt" taste, "uniform colour" and "regular shape" which "is not found in nature".

It also argued that potato crisps - unlike Pringles - did not contain non-potato flours, and were not packaged in tubes.

Pringles are more like a cake or a biscuit, it claimed, because they are manufactured from dough.

Mr Justice Warren ruled that Pringles were not "made from the potato" - as set out in the definition laid down by the 1994 VAT Act.

To be subject to VAT, a product "must be wholly, or substantially wholly, made from the potato".

But he said that Pringles did not meet these criteria - being made from potato flour, corn flour, wheat starch and rice flour together with fat and emulsifier, salt and seasoning, with a potato content of about 42%.

Taking the biscuit

Separately, the Food and Agricultural Organisation and the World Health Organisation have decided - after seven years of debate - what qualifies as a proper tomato.

The ruling means tomatoes may be round, ribbed, oblong or elongated, or can be cherry tomatoes or cocktail tomatoes. Other characteristics include being clean, whole, fresh in appearance, and free from foreign smells and pests.

Earlier this year the European Court of Justice (ECJ) ruled that the UK Treasury had wrongly imposed VAT on a Marks and Spencer teacake. Customers paid VAT for 20 years before the authorities accepted the product was a cake, which does not command VAT.

Under UK tax rules, most traditional bakery products such as bread, cakes, flapjacks and Jaffa Cakes are free of VAT, but the tax is payable on cereal bars, shortbread and partly-coated or wholly-coated biscuits.

Lets face it, they should face VAT, regardless of whether or not they're "potato crisps".
 
Bizarre rulings like this and the chocolate teacake one are an inevitable result of the UK's convoluted VAT rules. Food isn't subject to VAT, unless it falls within certain rather vague boundaries. I wouldn't be surprised if the potato content of other 'potato crisps' started freefalling after this verdict.

But it's not the verdict that's crazy. Simplify the rules.
 
How is a Pringle more like a cake than a crisp?
 
I don't think I'll looks so favorable on pringles from now on. :cringe: 42% potato?

:cringe:

Once your aorta pops, you can stop. :ack:
 
I don't think I'll looks so favorable on pringles from now on. :cringe: 42% potato?

:cringe:

Once your aorta pops, you can stop. :ack:

I've never really liked them. Well, the first few are nice, but after that I think the taste and texture are simply too boring. Like eating salted slightly crunchy papier-maché.
 
I've never really liked them. Well, the first few are nice, but after that I think the taste and texture are simply too boring. Like eating salted slightly crunchy papier-maché.

I found them strangely addicting...makes you wonder what substance they put in it....:cringe:
 
it took seven years to decide what a tomato was?

i love the absurd world we live in.
 
it took seven years to decide what a tomato was?

i love the absurd world we live in.

Well, the Food and Agricultural Organisation said 'tom-ay-to' while the World Health Organisation considered it to be 'to-mah-to', and eventually a joint committee agreed to call the whole thing off.
 
Well, the Food and Agricultural Organisation said 'tom-ay-to' while the World Health Organisation considered it to be 'to-mah-to', and eventually a joint committee agreed to call the whole thing off.

Tax dollars at work.
 
Wasn't there a time where Pringles desperately tried to pass their chips as real potatoes?

All I find on the Wiki site is this: "They were originally known as "Pringle's Newfangled Potato Chips", but the name was changed for introduction to the national market.", but I remember a bigger story behind that name change...
 
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