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Discussion in 'Rhye's and Fall - Dawn of Civilization' started by Linkman226, Mar 4, 2011.

  1. Gruekiller

    Gruekiller Back From The Beyond

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    Oh, yeah. Didn't Pearson win the Nobel Peace Prize after the Suez Crisis? He'd make a good leaderhead.
     
  2. civ_king

    civ_king Deus Caritas Est

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    :yup: indeed
     
  3. Linkman226

    Linkman226 #anarchy

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    Seem like weak UP's. Iran's a copy of Arabia's, Mexico's a copy of the old Creative trait.
    Perhaps a Ski Troop as the UU that can transverse mountain?
    UP's rather weak.
    Like the UHV's, except the last one

    Sounds good! Except the UB, perhaps...

    Falklands are rarely settled by the British-or anyone- so there's not much to do there.

    How bout this:

    Power of the Great White North: Tundra acts as plains (anything buildable on plains can be built on tundra).

    The highest GDP one sounds good.

    Sure. Try looking for Modern Mayans, or, as a last resort, Mexicans from the Yucatan. And while you're at it, we'll need GP lists for all these new civs too.

    The plan is to extend the game till 2200 or 2100. Then the UHVs can be redated.

    Oh, and +1 merchant sounds good.

    Yes, Jarkovs mod will probably be incorporated, but balance is an important issue, so certain civs may be eliminated if need be.
    The minor civs idea sounds good provided that:
    1)Doesn't unbalance gameplay
    2)Doesn't make the game too slow
    3)The minor civs are actually significant.

    Indeed :lol:

    Ah, I see what you mean... hmmm...well I suppose the split could have happened in real life anywhere. After all it had to do with a clash over leadership... those happen everywhere.

    Truth.

    Will think about it.

    Again, if you can find LH's, anything's game.


    1867 sounds good. Seem my Up suggestion above; yours might get overpowered with levies.
     
  4. Jusos2108

    Jusos2108 Deity

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    Ski troop isn't at all historical. Their UU could be Hackapell (Cuirassier) or Karolin (Musketman).
     
  5. Leoreth

    Leoreth 心の怪盗団 Moderator

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    Have you considered the exploitability of building espionage? Espionage is already immensely powerful as-is, but when you can even invest your whole production into stunning and destabilizing your enemy I don't know whether the AI can still compete.
     
  6. Linkman226

    Linkman226 #anarchy

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    This is true... Does a 4:1 Hammer:Espionage ration sound better?

    Guys would Denmark-Norway be better as a rebirth for the Vikings?
     
  7. Linkman226

    Linkman226 #anarchy

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    MAJOR REWORK AHEAD

    1)Incorporation of Aussie Lurker's True Prophets Mod. What the mod does:

    Spoiler :



    2)India now spawns in the 3000BC start at Harappa. Massive barb wave around 2500BC, Harappa burned. Around 2000 BC, Indie cities spawn and the Indies get a GP in Pataliputra, which founds Hinduism.
    3)Buddhism now requires Priesthood and a monastery. Another GP appears in Pataliputra circa 500 BC, founds Buddhism.
    4)Mauryans (India) spawn circa 322 BC. Barb waves around 200 BC. Instability hits caused by surviving past 180 BC.
    5)Modern Indian spawn like normal ("Indian cities have declared their independence!" event)
     
  8. J. pride

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    Saying that Harrappa is a precrusor to the Indians is like saying that the Hitites were a precursor to the Ottomans. Im highly skeptical of this since archeologists know nothing of Harrapan language and know little of Harrapan religion and culture. And even little is know of their origins.
    Anyways it is the Ganges not the Indus which is the origins of Indian culture.

    And why should India get a special treatment. If this is the case then the chinese and egyptians should get a rebirth too.
     
  9. Krug

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    This is a question similar to "Should the Incans spawn as Peru?" Denmark-Norway was not nearly as powerful as the Swedish Empire at its peak, but is definitely the more "appropriate" rebirth.
     
  10. Linkman226

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    1) As far as Harrapa's concerned, fine. I'll make it indie instead. Rest of the plan stays put.

    2) Egypt and China can get work done on them too, it's just that my convo with you brought India into mind.

    I think I'll have them as Denmark Norway/ Peru then.
     
  11. J. pride

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    What do u mean by that
     
  12. Gruekiller

    Gruekiller Back From The Beyond

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    Are we assuming that the new responds are mostly conditional spawns?
     
  14. civ_king

    civ_king Deus Caritas Est

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    Yes, it is kind of hard to respawn a civ that isn't dead
     
  15. IrishDragon

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    I agree, Sweden would be better
     
  16. Krug

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    I would third Sweden, after all, we're not spawning the Maya as Guatemala are we?
     
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    4:1 should be fair.

    Personally I'd view Denmark-Norway as the Viking civ surviving and forming a more centralized state (since this is roughly what actually happened).
     
  18. Gruekiller

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    If anything they'd be Honduras. :p
     
  19. SouthernKing

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    I like the True Prophets idea, as long as we can find a way to incorporate the new religions into it plus the Sunni/Shiite and Catholic/Orthodox schisms as well as the Reformation.

    I fourth Sweden. Sweden was far more powerful and at its height had an empire than dominated the Baltic area and was a major player in European politics, both things that Denmark-Norway were not.

    Oh and if you need a better name than Synthesis, I propose Rhye's and Fall Xpanded (RFX)
     
  20. JiimBV

    JiimBV Afro Samurai

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    Iran:

    Great Artists:
    -Shah Tahmasp I
    -Sadiqi Beg
    -Kamal ud-Din Behzad
    -Reza Abbassi
    -Sultan Mohammed
    -Mihr ‘Ali
    -Naser al-Din Shah Qajar
    -Reza-Qoli Khan Hedayat

    Great Engineers:
    -Muhibb al-Din Ali Kula
    -Ustad Ali Akbar Isfahani
    -Haji Abol-hasan Mimar Navai
    -Haji Mohammed Hasan
    -Aziz-e-Din-Qapuchi
    -Shahram Entekhabi

    Great Generals:
    -Nader Shah
    -Abbas the Great
    -Karim Khan
    -Lotf Ali Khan
    -Reza Shah Pahlavi
    -Jahan Shah

    Great Merchants:
    -Husain Ali-Beg
    -Mozaffar ad-Din Shah Qajar
    -Mirza Yusof Mostofi-al-mamalek
    -Amir Kabir
    -Ahmad ibn Rustah
    -Nasir Khusraw
    -Saadat Khan

    Great Prophets:
    -Baha’u’llah
    -Mani
    -Bab
    -Jamal-al-Din al-Afghani
    -Haik Hovsepian Mehr
    -Mulla Sadra
    -Safi-ad-Din Ardabili

    Great Scientists:
    -Baha’ ad-Din al-‘Amili
    -Abbas Mirza
    -Cumrun Vafa
    -Vahid Tarokh
    -Nahid Shahmehri

    Great Spies:
    -Allahverdi Khan
    -Reza-qoli Mirza
    -Ali Murad Khan
    -Mirza Reza Kermani
    -Saeed Asgar

    Maya:

    Great Artists:
    -Uaxaclajuun Ub'aah K'awiil
    -Ix-tz’ib Canul
    -Itzamnaaj B’alam II

    Great Engineers:
    -Jasaw K’awiil I
    -K’inich Janaab’ Pakal
    -Popol Hol
    -Smoke Imix

    Great Generals:
    -Siyaj K’ak’
    -Yik’in Chan K’awill
    -K’ak’ Tiliw Chan Yopaat
    -Uneh Chan
    -Yuknoom the Great

    Great Merchants:
    -Atlatl Cauac
    -K’inich Yax K’uk’ Mo’
    -King Moon Skull

    Great Prophets:
    -Topiltzin
    -Ah Tohil
    -Ah Cucumatz
    -Kotuja’

    Great Scientists:
    -Ix’Chel

    Great Spies:
    -

    Yes, I know Maya is incomplete. After a day of searching, the list is still here. Most of them are Wikipedia-verified, a couple are kinda iffy. But don't question them. It's all we've got. And I'm giving up on them, at least until EVERYTHING else is done. Someone else can give them a try.

    What is the current list of Civs that will almost definitely be in Synthesis, and still need GP lists (presumably, like Mexico and Maya)?
     

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