Prove Your Logic

[Smokey_Monkey]

Really stuck on #12

EDIT: Not now ...

Stuck on #15 now... "and the killer was..." ??/

EDIT: Now it makes sense...

Finished it.....with a bit of help

 

[ParadigmShifter]

More info, can't be bothered to answer q1-11 again...

EDIT: More info, can't be bothered to answer q1-14 again...

 

[ParadigmShifter]

Yeah, that's quite tricky. We live in a country where the reason applies though, so you should be able to work it out.

 

[QuoVadisNation]

Really stuck on #12

EDIT: Not now ...

Stuck on #15 now... "and the killer was..." ??/

This isn't a logical puzzle. It's just supposedly common sense, think which character's story makes the least sense.

 

[gangleri2001]

I'm in level 2 too. The answer of the leven one is:

Spoiler :

Money

 

[bardolph]

Number 6 is too easy

#6 is WRONG:

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"Today they say, that they were both lying yesterday"

On Thursday, the hunter can say they were both lying yesterday (he is lying).

On Thursday, the fisherman can NOT say that they were both lying yesterday, because on Thursday, the fisherman must truthfully say that only he was lying yesterday.

The correct phrasing of the problem is:

"Today they both say, 'I was lying yesterday.'"

 

[bardolph]

Delete this post

 

[TheBladeRoden]

2, 4, and 8 were just "prove your guesswork" questions to me.

 

[WerBackIII]

Surely it was easy, I just wrote it wrong.

I'm on level 4 now.



EDIT:

Give a hint for lvl 5. A HINT, NOT AN ANSWER!


EDIT:

All my hint was a dictionary I needed.


EDIT:

Number 7 was too easy, guessed from the first time. Number 8 is hard, thought.

 

[MrCynical]

Not very much logic in this thing - more a collection of badly translated riddles and bits of IQ tests. Several require you to make assumptions, which rather takes it out of the realm of proving logic, and into guesswork.

 

[WerBackIII]

18177 HELL YEAH GO CFC OT 99 USA! CALIFORNIA



I wonder who's this...

BTW, I'm Peter Genov. Nice to meet you!


I PASSED IT, YUPEE!

 

[ParadigmShifter]

#8 was perfectly logical. By the way Werback, I PMed you the logic behind it.

 

[WerBackIII]

Why I have the feeling that 25 was the easiest?

 

[cthom]

i'm going bleary eyed trying to work out how many bloody triangles there are

 

[general_kill]

Don't be angry if you don't get through this test. It isn't the logic that's hard, it's the trivial questions that are. I love the questions like the one about the 4 brothers 2 of whom are telling lies and the other 2 are telling truths (and then they reverse). Those require real logic reasoning. The shoes question, snail question, and others were also quite good. The play on words questions are the quite terrible for a "logic" test, and that number question was TERRIBLE (I spent an hour on it).

Anyway, after finishing the test with much frustration and a bad hang over from last night, here's the spoiler:

1:

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Answer = "nothing"
This is just a word riddle.

2:

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Answer = "t"
O = One
T = Two
T = Three
F = Four
F = Five
etc

3:

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Answer = "first"
The year is 1929, why would a newspaper call THE great war as the "first" world war when the second world war hasn't happened yet?

4:

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Answer = "5"
count the number of letters in the number that is said. S E V E N = 5 letters

5:

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Answer = "anchor"
Really annoying word riddle

6:

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Answer = "thursday"
I miss spelled thursday as tursday the first time I did this and it created a lot of frustration when I went over each day again

7:

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Answer = "water"
The 2-3 days hint really gave this away

8:

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Answer = "2"
Ok this one seriously pissed me off. I thought there was some kind of mathetical equation/code behind this and I went off trying to decipher it. The 0000 = 4 made me realize that it wasn't as simple as putting the right math function between each number and I went off spelling out each word trying to find the similarities between the "equations" that gave the same answers. Finally, after the numbers became blurred, and I mistakened 1111 for 7777 (and realizing they both had the same answer thus a similarity), I realized how the kid came to his answers... You count the number of "bubbles" in each four numbers. so 8888 = 8 bubbles because there's 2 per 8. 6666 = 4 because there 4 bubbles (1 bubble in a 6).

9:

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Answer = "6"
Just count the number of "F" in the sentence, the trick is that they tell you it's actually hard forcing you to over think it.

10:

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Answer = "gregory"
Gregory's mother had 4 kids, they gave you the name of the other 3 so the only one missing is Gregory himself. The list of calender months was just used to confuse you.

11:

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Answer = "999"
1000 page book, 1 is telling the truth, so 999 must be lying. Thus page 999 tells the truth.

12:

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Answer = "3"
Think about how we place books. The first page of a book is actually on the right side of the book on a shelf. So the worm travels through only the covers of the 1st and 3rd book and through the entire 2nd book. 2.5 + .25 + .25 = 3

13:

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Answer = "2"
I picked 1 at first because I thought it was the only room that you can "reason" with. After getting it wrong I looked at the second choice more closely... Imo, the guy in charge of security there should be fired

14:

Spoiler :

Answer = "mother"
Beware of the terrible English in this one... Here's the simple version:
The father was killed by the assassin.
The mayor is the son of the doctor.
So who else can the doctor possibly be (no step-parents!)?

15:

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Answer = "maid"
Mail doesn't come on Sundays (the mayor is apparently from a country where theres no mail on Sundays)

16:

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Answer = "m"
Similar to the 1st level. Just a word play. (Once every Minute, twice every MoMent).

17:

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Answer = "e"
Look at the page numbers on the second page. It tells you what to do with the letters on that page (-1 alphabetical place of the letter. I.E. B = A, C = B, D = C, E = D). After you decipher the message, it comes out to a similar riddle to the level 16's riddle.

18:

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Answer = "13"
12 pairs = 24 shoes (1st trick is the conversion).
If you take out all the left shoes, no matter what shoe you take out after that, it has to match with one of the left shoes. So 12 + 1 = 13

19:

Spoiler :

Answer = "28"
At the end of each day, the snail would have traveled (in feet) the number of the day. So at the end of day 5, the snail is 5 feet off the ground. Day 10, 10 feet. The 27th day, the snail traveled 27 feet. So on the 28th day, the snail travels 3 inches and reaches the top before he slides down 2 inches.

20:

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Answer = "everest"
Tallest mountain = tallest mountain regardless of whether it has been discovered yet.

21:

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Answer = "25"
Work your way backward. Everytime a brother splits the fish, the amount of the fish needs to be 1 more than a multiple of 3. However, after he splits the fish, it needs to be able to be evenly divided by 2.

22:

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Answer = "August"
The top 2 brothers have to have to be the same (either lying or truthful). The second 2 brothers have to be the same. So you work through the statements and you get the answer.

23:

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Answer = "8000"
Something I learned in my "college math" class in senior of high school. Each line of the pyramid is the ^3 of the line #. So the 5th line = 5*5*5 (aka 5^3) and the 20th line = 20 * 20 * 20

24:

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Answer = "35"
I counted them starting with the smallest triangle. Anyone know of an easier way?

25:

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Answer = "59"
day 60 = the whole city flooded
So day 59 has to be half of that which = half of the city flooded.

 

[Mirc]

The shoes question, snail question, and others were also quite good.

Actually the shoes one was IMHO terrible. It does not mention if you can distinguish a left boot from a right boot by touching them. I'm totally sure I CAN do it during darkness, and it seemed obvious that since it is only SIGHT that I can't use, I can use all my other senses. And on top of that, shoe/boots questions are famous for playing on knowing which one is right and which one is left.

I first assumed you COULD distinguish them, in which case 3 would have been the correct answer. Seeing it wasn't, I assumed the question didn't even think of that possibility that was obvious to me so I tried the answer for the situation in which you couldn't distinguish a left boot from a right boot, and that was it.

 

[Stolen Rutters]

Actually the shoes one was IMHO terrible. It does not mention if you can distinguish a left boot from a right boot by touching them. I'm totally sure I CAN do it during darkness, and it seemed obvious that since it is only SIGHT that I can't use, I can use all my other senses. And on top of that, shoe/boots questions are famous for playing on knowing which one is right and which one is left.

I first assumed you COULD distinguish them, in which case 3 would have been the correct answer. Seeing it wasn't, I assumed the question didn't even think of that possibility that was obvious to me so I tried the answer for the situation in which you couldn't distinguish a left boot from a right boot, and that was it.

The boots question: 3 can't be right. You could pick one right and 2 left, for example... there is a chance that both left are brown and the right one is black for example. The problem is you can't tell what color they are. If you can tell them apart, you will need at least 7 lefts and one right to be absolutely sure (since there is one chance out of all combinations that, if you pick 6 right and 1 left that you will not come away with a matching pair on the first try). ...that is assuming they used "handed" lasts that you can differentiate by touch.

 

[general_kill]

Actually the shoes one was IMHO terrible. It does not mention if you can distinguish a left boot from a right boot by touching them. I'm totally sure I CAN do it during darkness, and it seemed obvious that since it is only SIGHT that I can't use, I can use all my other senses. And on top of that, shoe/boots questions are famous for playing on knowing which one is right and which one is left.

I first assumed you COULD distinguish them, in which case 3 would have been the correct answer. Seeing it wasn't, I assumed the question didn't even think of that possibility that was obvious to me so I tried the answer for the situation in which you couldn't distinguish a left boot from a right boot, and that was it.

I agree the wording gets to be pretty bad in this test which is really a shame. Especially the level where the mayor describes the assassination. It took me several reads to find out that his father even died because he didn't specify who he is talking about when he used "he".

 

[aronnax]

Cant get past 8....so confusing

 

[Mirc]

The boots question: 3 can't be right. You could pick one right and 2 left, for example... there is a chance that both left are brown and the right one is black for example. The problem is you can't tell what color they are. If you can tell them apart, you will need at least 7 lefts and one right to be absolutely sure (since there is one chance out of all combinations that, if you pick 6 right and 1 left that you will not come away with a matching pair on the first try). ...that is assuming they used "handed" lasts that you can differentiate by touch.

You are right, but to be fair I didn't put that much thought into that one, I said "either 3 or 13", tried both, and 13 was right. Still was confusing, even if the answer the other way would have been 8, not 3.