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Yes, I understand value of good defence, actually it is one of corner stones of my games. If I have good enough defencing forces, I don't necessary have to go to war, and if this is not enough, I usually survive so far that I get more and better military and get my enemy destroied. So far my defence forces haven't been good enough with noble level games, haven't won one yet...

Some body (I don't just now remember who) said once that "If you want peace, prepare for war" or something like that, and it's true also with Civ.

Wenla

Exactly. This is another reason to turn autopromote off. If you plan on using your army for strictly defense and deterrence, then promotions like City Raider are pretty much useless, because you won't be attacking enemy cities. Except for defending critical resources on hills, Guerrilla and Woodsman will also lose importance, since your army won't be attacked while marching through enemy territory. Concentrate on catapults with barrage, axes/crossbows with Combat and Shock, spears and pikes with Combat and Formation, etc. I think the AI will try to give you a "good rounding" of promotions, which is bad for two reasons. 1. You are using your army for a specialized purpose, and 2. Civ is a game where you want to have a well rounded army of specialists (and a well rounded empire of specialized cities). For examples, I want my axes to do nothing but fight melee units, so I only give them Combat and Shock. I want my spears to only fight mounted units, so I only give them Combat and Formation. I want my swords to only take cities, so I only give them City Raider. The reason this works is that your stack/army will select the strongest unit to defend against the given attacker, so unless you get hit with so many mounted units that you run out of undamaged spears/pikes, your spears/pikes will always be the unit chosen to defend against mounties.
For an army attacking another army, it might be helpful to have better rounded units so that they wouldn't be helpless against whatever defender the enemy sent up (a spear with Shock would do well against either a horse archer or another spear). However, if you get to throw the first stone (which usually means you're defending your territory and have access to roads) you can just pummel the enemy with barrage catapults.
 
Ok so this is what is going on. I broke my civ 4 disk. I went out and bought the gold edition and installed it overtop civ4. I found out that it only let me play warlord and didnt give me a warlord shortcut. So I uninstalled both and re-installed warlord. i didnt get a shortcut icon for civ4 or warlord. I look under my games and I have two folders. Civ 4, which has Replays folder and CivilizationIV.ini.bak, thats it. I have the Warlord folder which has Assets, Customerassets, logs, mods, patch, publicmaps, replays,saves,screenshots,transferred maps, civilizationIV config and Civilization IV.ini.bak. No game start ups. It also didn't create a folder under all programs.

So where do I get icons to put as desktop shortcuts? Can I play civ4 at all?
 
the my games folder is not the one you want to look for the .exe - you need to look for a folder within program files - most likely
\program files\firaxis games\civ4gold\
that schould have the civ4.exe which you can use to create a shortcut as well as another folder called warlords where the warlords.exe resides...
 
Ok! Now I have patch 1.61, extracted and everything. I see CivPatch1.61 and Readme. Now how do I attach the patch to the game, or whatever to make it work:goodjob:
 
Ok! Now I have patch 1.61, extracted and everything. I see CivPatch1.61 and Readme. Now how do I attach the patch to the game, or whatever to make it work:goodjob:

The game also has an internal update system that is easy to use. It's in the main game menu under the advanced section.

The patch that you downloaded is for vanilla civ4 and that's ok. Warlords has a different patch. It could be that the gold version of the game already has some patches installed that weren't available when the original game was released. In the advanced section, you can also find the version number of the game.
 
The game also has an internal update system that is easy to use. It's in the main game menu under the advanced section.

The patch that you downloaded is for vanilla civ4 and that's ok. Warlords has a different patch. It could be that the gold version of the game already has some patches installed that weren't available when the original game was released. In the advanced section, you can also find the version number of the game.

:blush: I did not realize he is using gold edition in my last answer - rather interesting with regards to my short term memory :mischief:

@Stevepac:
Gold Edition already has ALL available patches for Civ4 and Warlords installed and any patches downloaded from here will NOT work.
Just enjoy the game ;)
 
:blush: I did not realize he is using gold edition in my last answer - rather interesting with regards to my short term memory :mischief:

@Stevepac:
Gold Edition already has ALL available patches for Civ4 and Warlords installed and any patches downloaded from here will NOT work.
Just enjoy the game ;)

Well my opening game movie skips
 
they did change some of the graphics handling with each iteration of the game - so some issues just come up in the expansion packs (indeed sometimes patches changed that behavior).
run dxdiag and post the results as an attachment - preferably in the Tech Support section to not clutter this thread (and also posts here get lost too easily) - this way we could try to troubleshoot this :)
 
Hi, I'm new to Civ IV, played Civ II before (and am still playing it, just am getting the hang of it). Just finished my first game, had a cultural victory in 2036 :) just in time.

It seems to me that I cannot buy buildings, units or wonders, although I had a lot of gold. I foud stuff like whiping (slavery) and choprushing, but my trees are gone and I'm not in slavery.

Also what is cottage spamming?

I had the leader ability of Dan Quale, which is I guess the worst you can get. Does anyone have some info about this list of leaderqualities?

thanks a lot

great site, I have learned a lot these days
 
Hi, I'm new to Civ IV, played Civ II before (and am still playing it, just am getting the hang of it). Just finished my first game, had a cultural victory in 2036 :) just in time.

It seems to me that I cannot buy buildings, units or wonders, although I had a lot of gold. I foud stuff like whiping (slavery) and choprushing, but my trees are gone and I'm not in slavery.

Also what is cottage spamming?

I had the leader ability of Dan Quale, which is I guess the worst you can get. Does anyone have some info about this list of leaderqualities?

thanks a lot

great site, I have learned a lot these days

You need one of the advanced civics to buy production. I think it's Universal Suffrage.

As for Quayle, that's bad but look on the bright side, at least you don't have the leadership qualities of George W. Bush.
 
Hi, I'm new to Civ IV, played Civ II before (and am still playing it, just am getting the hang of it). Just finished my first game, had a cultural victory in 2036 :) just in time.

It seems to me that I cannot buy buildings, units or wonders, although I had a lot of gold. I foud stuff like whiping (slavery) and choprushing, but my trees are gone and I'm not in slavery.

A4Phantom is right, the Universal Suffrage civic allows the buying of stuff. Buying stuff from scratch or buying wonders is extra expensive per hammer bought.

Also what is cottage spamming?

Getting your workers to build lots of cottages around your cities and using them all. Make sure you've got enough food to use the cottages. When cottages are used by the citizens in your cities, then they slowly develop into hamlets, villages and then towns. Towns are one of the best tile improvements in the game, especially when combined with the right civics (Universal Suffrage and Free Speech). The goal of cottage spamming is acquiring lots of commerce and converting it into lots of research so that you'll research faster than your opponents.

Cottages and their advanced forms produce mainly commerce and thus cities surrounded by many cottages won't be good production centers. If you are in need of a city capable of building many wonders and military units, then don't surround it with cottages, but with mines (on hills) and workshops (on flatlands) and farms to feed the citizens working the mines and workshops.

This way, you'll get a civilisation with specialised cities. Some for military unit production and wonder construction and some for producing commerce to pay the bills and conduct research.

I had the leader ability of Dan Quale, which is I guess the worst you can get. Does anyone have some info about this list of leaderqualities?

thanks a lot

great site, I have learned a lot these days

I don't have the list at hand. I wouldn't worry about your game score. The game scoring mechanism isn't very good (in my opinion). It values early finishing dates very highly. The easiest way to finish early is by trying to conquer quickly and get a conquest or domination victory. Thus the aggressive players get the highest game scores.

If you've constructed a nice civilisation and have somehow managed to win the game and had fun doing so, then that should be satisfaction enough. Why would you care about an arbitrary scoring formula? One simple value can never contain the value of an entire game.
 
IME it's always either Quayle or Augustus Caesar, no-one in between. Roland is right though. It shouldn't be about victory in the quickest time possible, as such is difficult when you get to Warlord level unless you are really canny about spreading religion and manipulating the AP for a diplo victory. If you don't win this by the Middle Ages you can kiss goodbye to a win before at least Rifling/Industrial Age. So you might as well make the most of it.
 
I want a Renaissance "Advanced Start" with the difficulty set to Prince but my starting point equal to the AIs'. How many points should I give myself? I tried the default number, but I started with three tiny cities and the AIs' each had many large ones, with advanced units and Great People popping within 15 turns of the game starting. I don't want to start far behind, but I also don't want the difficulty set too low.


And I agree with RJ and Crowqueen, the scoring always seems arbitrary and weird. I've gotten Augustus results for games where I've made lots of foolish decisions and lower rankings for games where I think I played almost flawlessly. I'm more impressed by people who win at high levels in many different ways.
 
I want to play the rise of rome mod (warlords) but I can´t because BTS is installed. How can i play this mod without having to uninstall the game?

Thank you. And sorry for my awful english.
 
I want to play the rise of rome mod (warlords) but I can´t because BTS is installed. How can i play this mod without having to uninstall the game?

Thank you. And sorry for my awful english.

Your English is fine. Do you have Warlords installed and the Warlords cd in the drive? If the icon's not on your desktop, start Warlords from the Start-All Programs menu, and then load the scenario. You can't access it from inside BTS.
 
I have it installed and the warlords cd is in the drive. It doesn´t work...a window opens saying that there is "no cd". I have tried to copy the mod from warlords to BTS but this also didn´t work.

What can I do next?
 
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